"Hi-def" Link to the Past

DustyPorViva · #1 07-11-2010, 11:55 PM

Sup. Haven't really been much into pixel art lately as I've been distracted a lot. However, got a little bored and started this little thing.

Goal is to 2x the LttP tileset and then remake it. It is not intended(and never will be) to actually be used in Graal.

So far all I've done is a tree. I had a hell'a'va hard time with the trunk, and not to mention the tree top itself was very easy.

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More to come, hopefully!

Crono · #2 07-12-2010, 12:01 AM

wouldnt you have to increase the resolution? or are you just trying to refine its detail?

DustyPorViva · #3 07-12-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono

wouldnt you have to increase the resolution? or are you just trying to refine its detail?

Well it's twice the resolution of the original graphics, which is the same resolution as Graal. Dunno if that's what you mean. However, with twice the resolution there is a lot of "blank spaces" you have to fill in, so I'm also having to add and redefine the details that were absent from the low resolution.

Crono · #4 07-12-2010, 12:06 AM

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Well it's twice the resolution of the original graphics, which is the same resolution as Graal. Dunno if that's what you mean. However, with twice the resolution there is a lot of "blank spaces" you have to fill in, so I'm also having to add and redefine the details that were absent from the low resolution.

oh my bad, for some reason i thought you meant the link to the past graal tileset. good job then

my favorite example of this kind of stuff <3

kia345 · #5 07-12-2010, 12:18 AM

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hd link to the past

you mean ocarina of time dohoho

Rufus · #6 07-12-2010, 12:49 AM

Looks super. I await Graal Classic HD.

WhiteDragon · #7 07-12-2010, 02:18 AM

Wow, that trunk is beautiful.

Sky · #8 07-12-2010, 02:43 AM

Looks pretty fly, actually...what you should do is "hack" your own lttp rom and release a dusty style one.

Loriel · #9 07-12-2010, 03:26 AM

Why not 4x it while you are at it, resolutions are easily higher than two times what lttp was designed for.

DustyPorViva · #10 07-12-2010, 03:36 AM

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Why not 4x it while you are at it, resolutions are easily higher than two times what lttp was designed for.

Because it's still pixel art for me and not digital painting like the Street Fighter sprites.

4x for pixel art is a huge workload.

Soala · #11 07-12-2010, 12:33 PM

Still not a huge fan of the "leaves", but that trunk's absolutely great.
Good job, again and again

Dnegel · #12 07-12-2010, 03:38 PM

Wow, the trunk of the tree looks amazing.

Keep em' coming.

Fulg0reSama · #13 07-12-2010, 06:06 PM

Impressed as always Dusty. Keep it up.

DustyPorViva · #14 07-12-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Soala

Still not a huge fan of the "leaves", but that trunk's absolutely great.
Good job, again and again

I think it'd be a crime to change something as distinctive as the tree top

Crow · #15 07-12-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I think it'd be a crime to change something as distinctive as the tree top

Indeed!

Nice work, keep it up please. This is very nice. Maybe you can contribute this to some Zelda fan game?

Crono · #16 07-12-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Maybe you can contribute this to some Zelda fan game?

Like Graal?

Elk · #17 07-12-2010, 06:58 PM

There is a 2x ALttP tileset already
Angelu made it some years ago

DustyPorViva · #18 07-12-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk

There is a 2x ALttP tileset already
Angelu made it some years ago

I plan to take mines in a different direction, however.

Crow · #19 07-13-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono

Like Graal?

Graal couldn't use them due to copyright, but Nintendo doesn't seem to fight non-commercial Zelda fan games.

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Originally Posted by Elk

There is a 2x ALttP tileset already
Angelu made it some years ago

That was not a direct ALttP copy. Was meant for another project, actually. Thought you knew.

DustyPorViva · #20 07-19-2010, 03:34 AM

Progress is slower than slow! Every attempt I make ends up with a headache because this isn't quite as easy as I thought. Of course, the original tileset was made and optimized for the limited SNES(doubly limited, given that each tile color palette is halved to better support the large world LttP introduced). Thus shapes and pixel clusters don't exactly given much room for interpretation. Looking deep at them and trying to make anything out of them results in hitting a wall because they don't make a lot of sense.

Anyways:

The head is proving to be a bit of a problem as well. Some problems include the hair being, well... pink. Though I doubt I'll change that since I'm not looking to change the looks, just make them look "newer." Also, hat and tunic are different colors, wtf? I don't know if I should keep it like that or make them match.

Soala · #21 07-19-2010, 03:37 AM

Looks good so far. About that hat, you should make it match the tunic, I never knew myself why they made it in a different green tone, a one-tone outfit looks cooler imo.

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Originally Posted by Elk

There is a 2x ALttP tileset already
Angelu made it some years ago

You mean Atlantis' current tileset?

Elk · #22 07-19-2010, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Soala

Looks good so far. About that hat, you should make it match the tunic, I never knew myself why they made it in a different green tone, a one-tone outfit looks cooler imo.

You mean Atlantis' current tileset?

No...Atlantis didn't use Angelu's ALttP tileset

This general thing here, Dusty, is a fight between visual similarities and interpretations I think

And Crow, Angelu made one in secret like 3-4 years ago or so...idk, not completed but he tried

Soala · #23 07-19-2010, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk

No...Atlantis didn't use Angelu's ALttP tileset

This general thing here, Dusty, is a fight between visual similarities and interpretations I think

I've visited Atlantis about 2 weeks ago and it was using a nice refined ALttP tileset, and I can perfectly recognize Angelu's style. He was even on RC there.

DustyPorViva · #24 07-19-2010, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk

No...Atlantis didn't use Angelu's ALttP tileset

This general thing here, Dusty, is a fight between visual similarities and interpretations I think

And Crow, Angelu made one in secret like 3-4 years ago or so...idk

You should go ahead and post the tileset :P

Soala · #25 07-19-2010, 03:46 AM

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you should go ahead and post the tileset

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This is totaly Angelu's.

DustyPorViva · #26 07-19-2010, 04:05 AM

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This is totaly Angelu's.

Hmm well I have Atlantis', but I was hoping for the original one(if that isn't it).

Soala · #27 07-19-2010, 04:09 AM

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Hmm well I have Atlantis', but I was hoping for the original one(if that isn't it).

Oh you mean the original ALttP's? I believe you can find pretty much everything on google =P

DustyPorViva · #28 07-19-2010, 04:12 AM

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Oh you mean the original ALttP's? I believe you can find pretty much everything on google =P

No I meant Angelu's original LttP tileset. It's substantially different than what Atlantis(and the one you posted) is using right now.

Soala · #29 07-19-2010, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

No I meant Angelu's original LttP tileset. It's substantially different than what Atlantis(and the one you posted) is using right now.

Well I guess I've never seen it, if there is an older version from Angelu.

James · #30 07-19-2010, 06:35 AM

wow nice job dusty and angelu should have finished that -- it's epic.

Crow · #31 07-19-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Soala

This is totaly Angelu's.

Angelu barely worked on that. Mostly Nitron and me, if I remember correctly. You failed

@ Elk: If we're talking about the same tiles, they were made for, you know, something.

Edit: And here's the tileset I believe some people are talking about. Lossy, so nobody will even think about using this anywhere, sorry.

Demisis_P2P · #32 07-19-2010, 10:36 AM

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Lossy, so nobody will even think about using this anywhere, sorry.

That won't stop them. Bet it turns up on a UC server in less than a week.

Crow · #33 07-19-2010, 10:39 AM

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That won't stop them. Bet it turns up on a UC server in less than a week.

It's not like they'd be able to use it anyway. Some of the tiles are just copied from ALttP and increased in resolution, then refined. Also, with the JPG I provided, it would just look stupid

Soala · #34 07-19-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Angelu barely worked on that. Mostly Nitron and me, if I remember correctly. You failed

Dude you're like the only one I didn't see that much work from, so I could barely tell this or that is from you. Good job I guess, all tiles look awesome

Crow · #35 07-19-2010, 11:39 AM

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Dude you're like the only one I didn't see that much work from, so I could barely tell this or that is from you. Good job I guess, all tiles look awesome

I'm not exactly a pixel artist anyway. I just did minor fix-ups and some other small tiles

Elk · #36 07-19-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

Angelu barely worked on that. Mostly Nitron and me, if I remember correctly. You failed

@ Elk: If we're talking about the same tiles, they were made for, you know, something.

Edit: And here's the tileset I believe some people are talking about. Lossy, so nobody will even think about using this anywhere, sorry.

Angelu had another version too, :o where EVERYTHING was form ALttP just 2x

this one has original influence aswell

Soala · #37 07-19-2010, 12:51 PM

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Angelu had another version too, :o where EVERYTHING was form ALttP just 2x

this one has original influence aswell

A 3rd version ?!

DustyPorViva · #38 07-19-2010, 05:53 PM

Gotta go out so I can't finish this right now.

A little concerned about the noise/contrast, but I'll see how it works out first.

Rufus · #39 07-19-2010, 06:03 PM

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Not enjoying either of these if I'm honest. They're not at the same standard as the tree. The table has lost its original charm and has turned flat and square, as opposed to the tree that was brought more to life.

DustyPorViva · #40 07-19-2010, 11:32 PM

I'll admit it's a bit more square but square doesn't necessarily mean bad. I'm trying to keep to the shape as much as possible, but it was a decision I made based on the design I was going with. I ended up rounding it off anyways. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by lost charm.

Noise and busyness seems to be an issue here, and I'm going to try to resolve it. Mostly with the floor, however. I may lessen the detail going on with the table, though.