Monster drops- simple/practical

Seeya · #1 05-03-2010, 09:18 PM

I like this idea i was having, since its a posibility to come true.
How about adding some drops to Zombies? Or T-Rexes? Probably an age-old question, but i think theres obvious drops we can give to them.

Zombies-
Skull hat
black skull helmet
(perhaps) Zombie shirt

T-Rexes-
Golden/Crystal edge (verrrry rare)

Anyone got ideas? I'm pretty sure this is something Tig could actually do without Stefans help, and it'd give us a reason to -farm-, which is content in itself.

joel34 · #2 05-03-2010, 09:57 PM

This.

Again.

James · #3 05-03-2010, 10:21 PM

I petitioned Stefan for GK back in the day for monsters to drop rare things to make the grinding somewhat bearable but he never thought it was a good idea.

Seeya · #4 05-04-2010, 12:32 AM

Tig is in charge now, if we have reasonable drop ideas he may work on something for us... I wish, in honesty, there was like a 1/10000 drop of a RDA or BDA Fragment from all monsters. That'd be incredible.

joel34 · #5 05-22-2010, 12:47 PM

Yeah that would be neat.

MajinDragon · #6 05-22-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Seeya

Tig is in charge now, if we have reasonable drop ideas he may work on something for us... I wish, in honesty, there was like a 1/10000 drop of a RDA or BDA Fragment from all monsters. That'd be incredible.

Hmm i'd be in favour of that but they should make them exclusive to dragons if they ever make them.

Also, a very important thing would be to make spawned monsters unable to drop items like these.

Demons:
Demon Shield (0.01%)
Demon Stone (0.005%)
Demon Essence (1%) - 200 needed to craft demon shield, 500 to craft demon stone.

Cyclops:
Sigil of Thunder (0.35%)

Vampire Priest:
Sash of Clarity (1.2%)
Lightning Scepter (0.8%)
Ring of Elrond (1.1%)

Vampire Gaudrian
Gloves of the Bandit (0.8%)
Ring of War (1.1%)

Deas_Voice · #7 05-22-2010, 01:32 PM

idea approved. again;

would be cool to have actual drops on GK =)

Gothika · #8 05-22-2010, 02:35 PM

They should drop NEW items, not old.

cyan3 · #9 05-22-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika

They should drop NEW items, not old.

I agree, If monsters were able to drop any sort of equipment or items they would have to be new and not older items.

MajinDragon · #10 05-22-2010, 03:29 PM

Who's going to develop new items?

joel34 · #11 05-22-2010, 03:43 PM

The good GFX Makers.

kia345 · #12 05-22-2010, 03:52 PM

We don't have many of those

Cubical · #13 05-22-2010, 07:14 PM

I have brought this up soo many times before.. it will never happen.

Gothika · #14 05-22-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Who's going to develop new items?

Well the Graphic Submission Thread has loads of cool stuff on there, we can start by using the stuff on there.

BigBear3 · #15 05-22-2010, 09:16 PM

Most items just need mud images and bull**** stats. I could make you a belt in 3 seconds.

Clockwork · #16 05-22-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

Most items just need mud images and bull**** stats. I could make you a belt in 3 seconds.

I've made a couple belts/rings and such.

Tig didn't like them. o.o

Although, there are a couple things that I made for gk a long time ago (that were said to be implemented), and still have yet to show.

Seeya · #17 05-23-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

Although, there are a couple things that I made for gk a long time ago (that were said to be implemented), and still have yet to show.

Go on.

kia345 · #18 05-23-2010, 12:11 AM

New items seems like a bad idea for drops. We have a terrible track record concerning new items:

Hey guys, Bjorn said we could have more kingdom items!

He's letting Zormite release theirs with the Vateril update!

Flash forward a few months

Tig's taken over and brought back the other kingdom items idea! They're even on debug, with new, unique graphics! We even got rid of Forest, so all the kingdoms have active kings to decide on items!

WHOOPS DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT ONE HUH

BigBear3 · #19 05-23-2010, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

I've made a couple belts/rings and such.

Tig didn't like them. o.o

Although, there are a couple things that I made for gk a long time ago (that were said to be implemented), and still have yet to show.

We had to take the helmet to UN just to use it.

joel34 · #20 05-23-2010, 09:33 AM

I dont think 30% of the graphics in the thread have been accepted.

Gothika · #21 05-23-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joel34

I dont think

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Jcs1919 · #22 05-23-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothika

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nullify · #23 05-24-2010, 12:27 AM

Classic

Googi · #24 05-24-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Vampire Priest:
Sash of Clarity (1.2%)
Lightning Scepter (0.8%)
Ring of Elrond (1.1%)

Vampire Gaudrian
Gloves of the Bandit (0.8%)
Ring of War (1.1%)

Why not just increase the spawn rate of RoW/RoE in the shops?

MajinDragon · #25 05-24-2010, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Why not just increase the spawn rate of RoW/RoE in the shops?

Well also viable but the point is just to get some monsters dropping items, i figure both rings aren't harming anyone being a rare drop, your point would be better if we were discussing how to get more row/roe's out into the server. Also it being a drop would make a new way to gain row/roe's other than the current high sapphire investment route which newer players can't afford without becoming 100% merchants & alchemists.

nullify · #26 05-24-2010, 09:18 AM

Well considering Tig completely nerfed IWD/EA/EW spawn rates, I doubt he'd increase the spawn rate of anything.

BigBear3 · #27 05-24-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nullify

Well considering Tig completely nerfed IWD/EA/EW spawn rates, I doubt he'd increase the spawn rate of anything.

The whole point of that wasn't to get rid of the EA/IWDs themselves, but to try to get rid of the retarded ac/wc system. There was no +s.

Conqueror · #28 05-24-2010, 03:34 PM

Whenever the idea of rare items spawning is brought up, the response is usually "it will ruin the economy". Which to me seems ridiculous because there's not much of an economy anymore with older players dying with their items. I think having spawnable items would have a positive effect on GK's economy/playercount.

No newer player could possibly gain any sort of "real" wealth. They could destruction scroll their balls off and come out with 500 dias, and maybe 50 brutals or so. But even those things aren't really desired items in trades anymore. So what can they really do? Spawnable items gives everyone a "chance" atleast.

Even putting some greater items in the EC shop. Some mad crazy items that you'd need to pay 300 ecs for. Other than Gale, that shop is useless.

MajinDragon · #29 05-24-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

The whole point of that wasn't to get rid of the EA/IWDs themselves, but to try to get rid of the retarded ac/wc system. There was no +s.

That failed as well since there was no wipe of previously EA'd armors or prepped (with diamond refunds I'd hope) weapons.

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Originally Posted by Conqueror

Even putting some greater items in the EC shop. Some mad crazy items that you'd need to pay 300 ecs for. Other than Gale, that shop is useless.

They gave up on the EC shop. It's the perfect place to input new items (gfx submission thread) without needing to add any real content and they haven't even done that.

Supaman771 · #30 05-24-2010, 10:36 PM

Still waiting to be restored.

Cubical · #31 05-24-2010, 10:57 PM

Still waiting for a reason to upgrade.

BigBear3 · #32 05-24-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

That failed

It would work in the long run.

kia345 · #33 05-24-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

That failed as well since there was no wipe of previously EA'd armors or prepped (with diamond refunds I'd hope) weapons

It would've worked after a while. No means of making more +12s, the currently existing ones would eventually be watered down into exclusive, overpowered "artifacts".

Also, LOL REFUNDS, that wouldn't help at all. At the very least, only refund one item, and re-bless the weapons.

MajinDragon · #34 05-25-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

It would work in the long run.

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Originally Posted by kia345

It would've worked after a while. No means of making more +12s, the currently existing ones would eventually be watered down into exclusive, overpowered "artifacts".

Also, LOL REFUNDS, that wouldn't help at all. At the very least, only refund one item, and re-bless the weapons.

The long run is a nice thought, but i think it's a highly unpractical one. For the current +12's to be watered down, more items would need to be created or more and more old ea'd items cleaned (madness). Alchemy can't be the only source of new items since pmop is considered redundant & i can't see fhom carrying the torch alone. The ec shop also can't carry the torch currently. There would have to be new development, and alot of it, to phase out the current and dormant ea'd items. Sure, it's possible in the very far future, but i don't see Graal surviving that long.

kia345 · #35 05-25-2010, 12:44 AM

The long run is what got GK from the pinnacle of Graal to what it is now. It was the steady acquisition/introduction of stronger items, and numerous top level items becoming commonplace. If you honestly think there's some immediate fix (short of a full reset!), you're wrong.

BigBear3 · #36 05-25-2010, 12:46 AM

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(short of a full reset!)

Why does every GK thread have to tease me with this idea eventually?

Gothika · #37 05-25-2010, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Sure, it's possible in the very far future, but i don't see Graal surviving that long.

I agree, theres no point talking about "the long run" because at the current state GK is in there won't be one.

kia345 · #38 05-25-2010, 12:52 AM

GK threads in general are a tease.

"wow people actually care about the server!"

"7 people online, 1 is stephen, 1 is kale, 1 is joel"

"

"

Stephen · #39 05-25-2010, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon

That failed as well since there was no wipe of previously EA'd armors or prepped (with diamond refunds I'd hope) weapons

We have to look farther down the road than the tip of our nose. The next generation will be forced to perform within the guidelines of the mudsystem, which has been hardwired by Stefan.

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Originally Posted by kia345

The long run is what got GK from the pinnacle of Graal to what it is now. It was the steady acquisition/introduction of stronger items, and numerous top level items becoming commonplace. If you honestly think there's some immediate fix (short of a full reset!), you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

It would work in the long run.

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Originally Posted by kia345

It would've worked after a while. No means of making more +12s, the currently existing ones would eventually be watered down into exclusive, overpowered "artifacts".

These guys have the right idea.

Seeya · #40 05-25-2010, 08:26 AM

Yeah, at this point, i'd love a reset.