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Whats the point of the new Graal###### accounts?
Why can't you choose your own account name anymore?

Is it like we'll run away from Graal and you'll be able to track us down?!
IDK TELL ME.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:09 AM
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Not really "new" anymore. It's to prevent "good" names from being taken up by trial accounts.
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Old 03-10-2009, 01:53 AM
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Gold accounts should be able to choose there names
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:24 AM
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Not really "new" anymore. It's to prevent "good" names from being taken up by trial accounts.
Instead of accounts being taken, now it's community names. Same damn thing. Doesn't solve anything.
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Old 03-10-2009, 02:58 AM
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Instead of accounts being taken, now it's community names. Same damn thing. Doesn't solve anything.
But in order to get a community name, a person has to have upgraded at least once, so odds are whoever took the name you wanted is either an active player, or at least was at some point.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:07 AM
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I've noticed that the last time threads have titles like: "why"; "question" etc.Please use a proper title for your threads, so we have a hint what's your topic.

So yeah.

This thing has also been discussed a thousand times already, use the search function once in a while please.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:15 AM
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There are several reasons, one that stands out to me is to give incentive for people to upgrade (choosing their own community name, etc).
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There are many Gold members with the Graal#####, at least their Tag.

I find this extremly annoying... for managing accounts. like at Era News, I look at the memberlist and see like 3 Graal######, I have no idea who they are -.-.

Maybe send a big box telling the Gold members to change their name each time the log in? (if they havent changed it already) because atm its only at the login, in a very small place.
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Time for a new whats the point:

Whats the point of classics subscriptions having trial mode on UC servers? Most wont upgrade just to develop a server and these UC servers need veteran developers of whom are classic. Sounds like they are trying to make a buck at the expense of development.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:27 AM
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The Graal###### is dumb why not just limit the account name of trials to a certain amount of characters or if a gold member decides they want the name the trial would lose it? Since this would be easier for ET's to ban/lock/kick (Zone commands) rather then needing to check the numbers Wouldn't make much of a difference for a ET but I find the numbers stupid.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:55 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen this system on any successful game ever, go figure.
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Old 03-10-2009, 04:46 PM
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I find this extremly annoying... for managing accounts. like at Era News, I look at the memberlist and see like 3 Graal######, I have no idea who they are -.-.
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The Graal###### is dumb why not just limit the account name of trials to a certain amount of characters or if a gold member decides they want the name the trial would lose it? Since this would be easier for ET's to ban/lock/kick (Zone commands) rather then needing to check the numbers Wouldn't make much of a difference for a ET but I find the numbers stupid.

Don't blame the new system for that, blame the scripters of those servers for not using player.communityname instead of player.account.
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There are several reasons, one that stands out to me is to give incentive for people to upgrade (choosing their own community name, etc).
Then look at the amount of people that lose the incentive to upgrade because of this ****ty account system.

Besides, what's the difference between choosing an account name and choosing a community name? Nothing.

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Don't blame the new system for that, blame the scripters of those servers for not using player.communityname instead of player.account.
Doesn't matter. You will always be labeled as just another Graal###### account.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:10 PM
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Doesn't matter. You will always be labeled as just another Graal###### account.
Not if servers learn not to present the account name to public.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:12 PM
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:42 PM
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Don't blame the new system for that, blame the scripters of those servers for not using player.communityname instead of player.account.
"player.communityname" takes too long to type. I'm not joking, either.
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"player.communityname" takes too long to type. I'm not joking, either.
Lazyness.

Make a short/small function to return it? Assign the variable to a shorter variable on the player object?
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Sec no..nvm no one was wall hacking that was graal341222

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wait.. no its not i forgot LOL unbanned him
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Lazyness.

Make a short/small function to return it? Assign the variable to a shorter variable on the player object?
Well, of course there are ways to get around it. But, I just wouldn't be able to call myself a Graal developer if I actually did any of them.


I'm joking, btw.
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Don't blame the new system for that, blame the scripters of those servers for not using player.communityname instead of player.account.
Yet the scripters have to account for tons of new things. A lot of times, players will have a community name of '0' or null, which means that a lot of commands on servers can't simply be changed (e.g. on Era, Events Team members can say :gather <acc> or say :gather and click someone; saying :gather then clicking gathers anyone with a glitched community name of '0'). Plus, when displaying, you have to check if the player has a pc:##### account (trial), because community name just says 'guest', which makes them impossible to identify, especially in profiles (for example, staff trying to ban someone would have to look them up in RC, which becomes difficult when they are in a GMAP (for example) and have a name like 'unknown'.

You've also got to store two separate arrays for, like you said, in the business flags. One for accounts (if the player's community name changes, which is more than possible), and one for community names (so people can see the "friendly" name). The same checks apply here (for the null community name, PCIDs, etc).

It's so much extra work for scripters than it should be. Trial accounts should simply be pruned after a time period of inactivity.
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Agreed. The way this was implemented was horrible. findPlayerByCommunityName()? Seriously?
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player.communityname would only work if the account has set a community name correct?
Since many players don't realise they can nor do they realise how to.
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Also,

While you go ahead shortening all the scripting functions (), it would be great if the global command (/global communityname <acc/cname>) could be shortened to /global cname or something similar (everyone has access to this global command, not just global staff).
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While you go ahead shortening all the scripting functions (), it would be great if the global command (/global communityname <acc/cname>) could be shortened to /global cname or something similar (everyone has access to this global command, not just global staff).
Though if you give everyone access to this, they'd be able to constantly change their communityname. (Correct me If I'm wrong) I recommend making the Community name box stand out a little more on the login screen.
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There are many Gold members with the Graal#####, at least their Tag.

I find this extremly annoying... for managing accounts. like at Era News, I look at the memberlist and see like 3 Graal######, I have no idea who they are -.-.

Maybe send a big box telling the Gold members to change their name each time the log in? (if they havent changed it already) because atm its only at the login, in a very small place.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:24 AM
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"player.communityname" takes too long to type. I'm not joking, either.
wait wait, so my scripts might fail for Graal#######'s if I use player.account??? that cant be it
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