Zodiac Could be better... - Page 2

papajchris · #41 02-16-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

Why isn't Atlantis just removed? Their player average is 0.

Alantis is a dutch server which is the reason i think its still around

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Originally Posted by Frankie

yea leveling is a complete joke these days. all you have to do is sit in a room with a few other people that are killing stuff and you can leech exp.

I tried to stop that by adding level mins to enter dungeons

Pimmeh · #42 02-16-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris

Alantis is a dutch server which is the reason i think its still around

German you idiot -_-

papajchris · #43 02-16-2009, 05:11 AM

Whoa Whoa Whoa don't get so feisty its just a simply mistake, I think someone needs a break off Graal.

Darugo · #44 02-16-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris

Except player counts
Npulse Average Player Count: 5
UN: 60

Welp I actually see about 20 on every now and then on N-Pulse.

DustyPorViva · #45 02-16-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pimmeh

German you idiot -_-

Really a need to get so negative?

MiniOne · #46 02-16-2009, 10:25 AM

My Level sorta makes me seem like a noob >< and my online time sucks since i mostly did play on my other account which i don't seem to have the pass for anymore

Also these 'prestige' classes suck, if you really wanted you could make a class which could stun you forever... It wouldn't be that hard... Pick Human and mix Dragoon i think and Glad and there you have like 15seconds worth of stun right there

which basically makes you unkillable (xD by the way i have no idea what I'm saying, I'm just guessing since both of these have stun... and yepp

)

fowlplay4 · #47 02-25-2009, 11:17 PM

Yes it definitely could be better but satisfying your idea of 'better' is hard to pinpoint because everyone wants their class to be #1 PVP, complain when leveling is too hard, and shoot down updates because it doesn't benefit them whatsoever.

Example, Paper: Nerf Scissors, Rock is Fine.

Unfortunately I don't think a lot of you understand the amount of work that is required to go into the balancing of classes properly. It's a pain in the ass and only leads to more tears from the player count.

To address the update rumors, Yes we are working towards our next update, and are always looking forward to help in the levels and graphics department.

So.. we'll keep fixing bugs and working on our next update.

Felix_Xenophobe · #48 02-25-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Unfortunately I don't think a lot of you understand the amount of work that is required to go into the balancing of classes properly. It's a pain in the ass and only leads to more tears from the player count.

That's why you released 10 new unique prestige classes in addition to the original classes, right?

fowlplay4 · #49 02-26-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

That's why you released 10 new unique prestige classes in addition to the original classes, right?

Personally I never released a single prestige class, only Gambet and Yen have, and deleting the prestiges is not an option.

MiniOne · #50 02-26-2009, 10:13 AM

Though I dislike all the new classes. I will say that you have done a pretty good job at balancing it. Since a lot of good skills have actually been given a higher level requirement but the fact is that i dislike the prestige classes and think that since you've added them a lot of the games skill has been taken away. As well as being able to get to level 60 within 2days? which is sort of disappointing since that's just idiotically quick.

hydralisk150 · #51 04-16-2009, 02:58 AM

its funny how you guys can complain about how you want the server to be better, but none of you are willing to work or make sacrifices in order to make it better. Your not going to log on one day and Zodiac be perfect, it takes trial and error.

Rufus · #52 04-16-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by hydralisk150

its funny how you guys can complain about how you want the server to be better, but none of you are willing to work or make sacrifices in order to make it better. Your not going to log on one day and Zodiac be perfect, it takes trial and error.

That's a pretty ironic statement to make, especially with "Era is Not Even Era-ish anymore" in your signature.

hydralisk150 · #53 04-16-2009, 03:02 AM

Yeah espicially when that was put into my quote back in god knows when.

Clockwork · #54 04-16-2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hydralisk150

its funny how you guys can complain about how you want the server to be better, but none of you are willing to work or make sacrifices in order to make it better. Your not going to log on one day and Zodiac be perfect, it takes trial and error.

I logged on yesterday and told a staff he was abusing his boots, and he thus called me an 'idiot player' and ran around the level saying "LOOK IM ABUSING MY BOOTS" while claiming he was the best PR so he was allowed to do it.

DarkIceX · #55 04-16-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork

I logged on yesterday and told a staff he was abusing his boots, and he thus called me an 'idiot player' and ran around the level saying "LOOK IM ABUSING MY BOOTS" while claiming he was the best PR so he was allowed to do it.

Witnessed.

Also for the Zodiac staff who replied here, tell me something, this update of yours, is it something that will bring new, fun and unique aspects to Zodiac or is it just another dungeon with more weapons and armor?

I'm not trying to offend or anything, but I'm just wondering because what Graal/Zodiac needs right now is new and fresh. Not add 50 new sets of armor and then work on releasing the next 50 new sets of armor.

I made my fair share of mistakes when I was Manager (actually I completely failed at it) and I'm hoping you won't do the same so that we can see a Manager stay longer than 2-12 months and make a change for the better.

Im not a newb · #56 04-16-2009, 05:07 PM

Zod Fails now..Vampire Ninja/Thief 4 lyfe

fowlplay4 · #57 04-16-2009, 05:53 PM

I've been manager for nearly a year now, I've cleaned up the entire dev staff unlike in the past when it seemed like everyone had NC on Zodiac exposing the playercount to many corrupt experiences.

I agree that we need something new and fresh, which is why we've begun work on our dev server and are beginning to document on our dev wiki.

Some of the things we hope to accomplish is providing a higher standard of gameplay quality, a better experience for new players and the grind to the endgame content, and many revisions to old concepts. With this we're are going to be exploring new ideas as well.

This won't be no easy task so we'd appreciate it if the reticule kept to a minimum.

As for this whole PR business I'd rather not getting this started into an argument, if you really feel that our PR team is that corrupt then wonderful staff at the Graal Support desk can help you.

Clockwork · #58 04-16-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

I've been manager for nearly a year now...

What's taking so long?

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

As for this whole PR business I'd rather not getting this started into an argument, if you really feel that our PR team is that corrupt then wonderful staff at the Graal Support desk can help you.

Freinds? Or something you're just willing to deal with yourself?

I asked tig to help but he said he couldn't, and I'm not going to take it any farther with a server I no longer enjoy.

xXziroXx · #59 04-16-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

I've been manager for nearly a year now, I've cleaned up the entire dev staff unlike in the past when it seemed like everyone had NC on Zodiac exposing the playercount to many corrupt experiences.

As far as I know, that ended with Yen, did it not? Or did things like that happen after Ashley's and mine time?

fowlplay4 · #60 04-16-2009, 07:03 PM

Clockwork, I don't believe you understand my contributions to the server that I have made in this time, just leave this thread if you're trying to stir up a mess with comments like that especially since it's about a server you no longer enjoy.

Now to reply to Ziro..

I was fired during your's and calani's time lol.

The corrupt thing really depends on your definition of it. There were countless security mistakes made by Drander, and MD providing nearly anyone with NC access if they could do something for them, during my time I caught a couple item spawners most of which were hired by MD and have since tightened up security.

Me letting Yen access Zodiac through my account when Drander was still Manager was an example of that but I have since changed my ways.

Elk · #61 04-16-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Clockwork, I don't believe you understand my contributions to the server that I have made in this time, just leave this thread if you're trying to stir up a mess with comments like that especially since it's about a server you no longer enjoy.

Now to reply to Ziro..

I was fired during your's and calani's time lol.

The corrupt thing really depends on your definition of it. There were countless security mistakes made by Drander, and MD providing nearly anyone with NC access if they could do something for them, during my time I caught a couple item spawners most of which were hired by MD and have since tightened up security.

Me letting Yen access Zodiac through my account when Drander was still Manager was an example of that but I have since changed my ways.

Getting rid of Yen was the worst idea...

Cloven · #62 04-16-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk

Getting rid of Yen was the worst idea...

Yeah, it's never a good idea to get rid an individual with an insatiable urge to project their sexual identity crisis and desires onto children, huh?

Crono · #63 04-16-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk

Getting rid of Yen was the worst idea...

Oh please, if he was straight you'd be singing a different tune. There's no reason to keep a corrupted predator manager.

fowlplay4 · #64 04-16-2009, 09:48 PM

Yen was a very good scripter, learned alot from him but as mentioned above he turned very quickly to exploit his skill for his own benefit.

AllTheBaron · #65 04-16-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Yen was a very good scripter, learned alot from him but as mentioned above he turned very quickly to exploit his skill for his own benefit.

His scripts were too complex, and laggy.
BUT he was still a great manager

On the other hand, why is Jerret even manager?
First off, he IS a former member of Anti-Graal.
Secondly, he let Yen borrow his account to completely manipulate Zodiac, and you trust him as a manager?
Thirdly, he abused his 1 hit.k.o script with some friends when he was a Dev, and let them pick up the drops ETC.
AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT BALANCING? LOL!
Last but not least, he ban evaded his GLOBAL BAN on Jerret with fowlplay4.

and he was chosen manager.... ha!

It's quite funny if you think about it, about a year ago Jerret said to me that he will never take the manager position because it's to much work, guess again!
Zodiac is just TOO big for it's 80player count, I mean the only updates there are is more dungeons and more weapons.
THINK PEOPLE! THINK!

Dark_Zeratul101 · #66 04-16-2009, 10:52 PM

Yen's a good guy who has contributed a lot to Zodiac (even if it's buggy) but when he flips out he's ****ING CRAZY. Trust me on this, I was staff during the whole Yen deal.

**MysticalDragon** · #67 04-16-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Clockwork, I don't believe you understand my contributions to the server that I have made in this time, just leave this thread if you're trying to stir up a mess with comments like that especially since it's about a server you no longer enjoy.

Now to reply to Ziro..

I was fired during your's and calani's time lol.

The corrupt thing really depends on your definition of it. There were countless security mistakes made by Drander, and MD providing nearly anyone with NC access if they could do something for them, during my time I caught a couple item spawners most of which were hired by MD and have since tightened up security.

Me letting Yen access Zodiac through my account when Drander was still Manager was an example of that but I have since changed my ways.

Hmmm, Should I even respond to this? Is this a waste of time? nah I think its well worth it.
You speak about all the bad decisions all these people did, but you still don't even own up to your own wrong doings? When Yen gets caught on your account, your response is? C'mon man take responsibility for your actions and stop coming up with excuses. You allowed Yen on your account to benefit no one but your self? It wasn't to prove anything? The time you got fired and I UNBANNED you against the managers will , You EXPLOITED a leak you left behind helping other players gain an unfair advantage. You claim you only received 1 ITEM, DUR that's because I removed the glitch before it can be abused any further.

The wrong decision I made? Are you referring to ZachTrant and that LAT? Those are the only 2 that abused there power and I acted upon 1 out of the 2. I wasn't on RC, when the LAT got caught duping. They only way to trust someone is to give them a chance, You live and Learn.
*Reminder The LAT was never given NC just STRICT rights to specific levels, to perform his job in trusting fashion.

Now lets talk about some more WRONG decisions I made, that wasn't mentioned. When I went against BELL, Drander and all of Zodiacs staff team to bring you back, Was that a Bad decision? When Bell ordered me NOT to give you NC, and I still trusted you and Did. Was that a bad decision?
As being apart of a Manager on a server, The whole experience of being a manager is to learn from your mistakes. No one is perfect, And that's why you was globally banned.. Because you to made numerous mistakes. Before you bring my name up, please look back on your own stupidity and mistakes before you blame others.

DarkIceX · #68 04-17-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Hmmm, Should I even respond to this? Is this a waste of time? nah I think its well worth it.
You speak about all the bad decisions all these people did, but you still don't even own up to your own wrong doings? When Yen gets caught on your account, your response is? C'mon man take responsibility for your actions and stop coming up with excuses. You allowed Yen on your account to benefit no one but your self? It wasn't to prove anything? The time you got fired and I UNBANNED you against the managers will , You EXPLOITED a leak you left behind helping other players gain an unfair advantage. You claim you only received 1 ITEM, DUR that's because I removed the glitch before it can be abused any further.

The wrong decision I made? Are you referring to ZachTrant and that LAT? Those are the only 2 that abused there power and I acted upon 1 out of the 2. I wasn't on RC, when the LAT got caught duping. They only way to trust someone is to give them a chance, You live and Learn.
*Reminder The LAT was never given NC just STRICT rights to specific levels, to perform his job in trusting fashion.

Now lets talk about some more WRONG decisions I made, that wasn't mentioned. When I went against BELL, Drander and all of Zodiacs staff team to bring you back, Was that a Bad decision? When Bell ordered me NOT to give you NC, and I still trusted you and Did. Was that a bad decision?
As being apart of a Manager on a server, The whole experience of being a manager is to learn from your mistakes. No one is perfect, And that's why you was globally banned.. Because you to made numerous mistakes. Before you bring my name up, please look back on your own stupidity and mistakes before you blame others.

This.

Twinny · #69 04-17-2009, 12:39 AM

Jerret is doing a great job and I'll support him all the way (hell, providing him with a free forum for Zodiac

).

Also, try to remember that unlike others (e.g. Calani, who was asked to manager Zodiac as a favor) Jerret wants to do this. Far better having a willing manager than someone who doesn't care about the server managing it.

Now, try to imagine if I actually accepted the manager role in the past circumstances...what a ****hole it would be now

. Bell/Vulcan must have been terribly desperate

fowlplay4 · #70 04-17-2009, 12:44 AM

I was never a member of that anti-graal clique, nor should I be associated with them.

You are also blowing the 1-hit K.O. thing out of proportion in comparison to some of the actual glitch abuse that's happened.

I was global banned because I altered a few scripts that made Frotter upset, who in turn got calani to fire me. At the time they did not remove my Staff Tool that allowed me basicly free reign ( It could basicly perform a single line of GS2 ) to do whatever I want which included teaching Twizt3d how to lock everyone in OSL. Do I regret doing it? No.

After reading your update comment I'd like to inform you that those were only minor updates to keep our weapon hungry population satisfied, but I also think you're ignorant due to the fact that you ignored many of my other updates like ZMS, Nation Honor / Morale Boosts, one of the biggest Re-Balances (Included over 200 individual script changes), hundreds of bug fixes, a rescripted Bounty system, a new GUI, a new skill menu, and many other small system updates.

I took the Manager job because I figured that I was the only one at the time who could handle it and keep the Staff stable, and I think I've done a pretty good job since Management used to change quite frequently in the past.

Clearly I do owe you that you got me my job back MD but that can only go so far, my experience working with you was trivial. I would log on and find that you had added people to RC to do your own work, or you had gotten the RC into a big argument. This made many people who I considered good staff quit.

There was no working with you, you always got pissed off and were quick to manipulate situations into the way you handled certain things were right as well as the fact that you could never see a project all the way through lead to your demise. I didn't want to fire you but after all the issues you caused I didn't see any other option.

Unkownsoldier · #71 04-17-2009, 12:48 AM

^Supports

**MysticalDragon** · #72 04-17-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny

Jerret is doing a great job and I'll support him all the way (hell, providing him with a free forum for Zodiac

).

Also, try to remember that unlike others (e.g. Calani, who was asked to manager Zodiac as a favor) Jerret wants to do this. Far better having a willing manager than someone who doesn't care about the server managing it.

Now, try to imagine if I actually accepted the manager role in the past circumstances...what a ****hole it would be now

. Bell/Vulcan must have been terribly desperate

??
If you was referring to me I never said jerret was doing a bad job? **** that's the whole reason why I was forced to bring him back. Without him Zodiac would of died, I said that then and I will say it now. I was just merely pointing out he had flaws as well.

Twinny · #73 04-17-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

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If you was referring to me I never said jerret was doing a bad job? **** that's the whole reason why I was forced to bring him back. Without him Zodiac would of died, I said that then and I will say it now. I was just merely pointing out he had flaws as well.

I never referenced anyone saying he was doing a bad job, just saying I support him

Gambet · #74 04-17-2009, 01:43 AM

Jerret was always the only person that I could count on to actually help me with the server back when I was a part of the managing team (and definitely the most competent), which is why when I quit, I made him my successor. I knew that he was allowing Yen to access his account, and I left my thoughts on that situation in my comments when I quit, but regardless of the fact, he has always been a great contribution to the server.

No one knows the systems better than Jer does at this point, and he has always been dedicated to Zodiac. Once I left, I didn't think anyone would be better at the job, and I still feel the same way now. Anyone with ill words towards Jerret is simply speaking out of a personal vendetta and not with the best interest of the server in mind.

Jerret has been doing a great job for years now, and it's not fair for people to try to take all of that hard work away from him by tainting his image.

fowlplay4 · #75 04-17-2009, 02:20 AM

Sweet some support, but yes I do admit I have my flaws and stubbornness but it is also not fair to criticize the workers under me as well, there are people out there who have slandered my own hard-working staff, some I presume were victims of the Iron Fist of Zodiac.

It's unfair for me to take credit for the work that couldn't be done without my loyal hard-working staff as well as my predecessors who laid the foundation of which I have now improved, and can learn from their mistakes.

I have my Co-Manager Xor who maintains almost every non-Developmental role, and deals with the blunt, unfair criticisms from the player count. He does everything he can for Zodiac much like myself and he still doesn't feel like he's doing enough. I have taught him a lot about how to make certain things on Zodiac to provide updates that I wouldn't have been able to start or end. ( Seriously, despite the simplicity of making the baddy arcs, and weapons it sucks the most. ) He has rigged things together from old content that I have would have ignored and even deleted from the server.

Along with him and puppin I have to say they are some of the hardest working staff on Graal and are overdue for the respect they deserve.

There is also Darkus, Rogpog, Obey whom which provide so much help in pointing gameplay affecting ideas and idea for new content. They are also part of the Player Relations squad which has to be one of the most stressful jobs someone could undertake.

It is upsetting that anyone could take unfair shots at them as well and not consider all the good they have accomplished working for me and Zodiac.

I hope to begin work on a new revision of Zodiac soon with my new graphics team, Fuzzums, and some new LATs as long as some apply, as well as my non-Dev team to keep kids entertained and in line until then. I also hope that I will be able to visit this forum and actually want to provide everyone with update information instead of taking flak from the "elite/trolls."

Rufus · #76 04-17-2009, 02:23 AM

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Obey

Best staff member.. ever.

Crono · #77 04-17-2009, 03:25 AM

All this big talk but how far has Zodiac really progressed in terms of quality? The standard of some of the levels and graphics on this server are ridiculously low. I'm surprised the PWA haven't pushed for some change in that aspect. I mean come on now, it's been how many years?

I'm fully aware that you (fowlplay) have been balancing things out on Zodiac along with trying to get items released, but I have yet to see some work out of the development team outside of weapon graphics.

By the way, the depletion piece incident is an indicator of low quality. I could have easily spent months trying to get ahold of the depletion pieces only to find that the single most reliable ingame source for item information (/lookup) was wrong (displaying 3percent after you had changed it to really give back 1percent some time beforehand).

AllTheBaron · #78 04-17-2009, 03:31 AM

I just know that oranrene and Xor are corrupt.

I spent a week on my FAQ application, as far as I can say, it was perfect. I send it in and I get rejected. I go on my other account and use *Tigarius PWA application but change it as I am applying for FAQ. Rejected, again!
How is it possible that Tig's app be good enough to get him hired as a PWA but not a Zodiac FAQ?

hm...

*I ONLY USED TIGS APP TO JUST TEST IF THEY'D ACTUALLY HIRE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST THERE FRIENDS, IF I WAS ACCEPTED I WOULD GET MY SELF FIRED! I CANT TAKE CREDIT FOR HIS APP, LOL*

Cloven · #79 04-17-2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AllTheBaron

I just know that oranrene and Xor are corrupt.

I spent a week on my FAQ application, as far as I can say, it was perfect. I send it in and I get rejected. I go on my other account and use *Tigarius PWA application but change it as I am applying for FAQ. Rejected, again!
How is it possible that Tig's app be good enough to get him hired as a PWA but not a Zodiac FAQ?

hm...

*I ONLY USED TIGS APP TO JUST TEST IF THEY'D ACTUALLY HIRE EXPERIENCED PEOPLE INSTEAD OF JUST THERE FRIENDS, IF I WAS ACCEPTED I WOULD GET MY SELF FIRED! I CANT TAKE CREDIT FOR HIS APP, LOL*

Perhaps your first application was not as 'up-to-par' as you believe it was, and, your second was recognized as a fraudulent piece (which will get you blacklisted on any respectable server). Oh, and maybe you're just not too bright, either...

hydralisk150 · #80 04-17-2009, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloven

Perhaps your first application was not as 'up-to-par' as you believe it was, and, your second was recognized as a fraudulent piece (which will get you blacklisted on any respectable server). Oh, and maybe you're just not too bright, either...

Now just because you didnt get an FAQ job, your going to go and be hell bent on single handedly bring Zodiac down. All you kids do is cry, cry, *****, and cry more. Why dont you try working for once?