proposition to stop bunker laming

bahamutstevetff · #1 02-19-2009, 06:51 PM

i find it annoying wehn the other team likes to sit inside your bunker shooting at the door for a long time and you can neither use the b1 warp or the dropship warp, so heres my uidea, a button outside the base, which can be used once every 5 minuets? and when pressed causes a mass explosion inside your own base, killing any smart asses laming the bunker enterance.

RealDDc · #2 02-19-2009, 07:05 PM

But let the zone police be in charge over the red button of wrath and mass destruction.

I'd say, there would be a quite easy and clever way to solve this problem, aswell as doing more good things in one slap.

The gas grenades, should be able to thrown into bunkers, filling closed rooms, in this case the bunkers with toxic slowly over time covering the whole and there-rot the victims to death with poison. It would make the unpopular gas grenades usefull, and once again a bought item. Also it would give a against resistance versus bunker campers and make it possible to counter attack.

Liberated · #3 02-19-2009, 07:05 PM

i liked my idea better,
i think it would be good, but only if the owners of the HQ can press it, and it only affects enemys.

Ravenblade1979 · #4 02-19-2009, 07:11 PM

I had tried (and failed) the turret route. Would have been nice if the auto turrets worked. Anyways your best bet is to have a time limit of how long they can be on a spawn base before instant death occurs. But your best bet is to just start blasting the crap out of every enemy you can.

RevolutionJS · #5 02-19-2009, 09:31 PM

I dont think Bunker laming is a problem if you want to go b1, Just walk there..
If you wanna go to Dropschip say ''unstuck me'' or go to enemy bunker

bahamutstevetff · #6 02-19-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RevolutionJS

I dont think Bunker laming is a problem if you want to go b1, Just walk there..
If you wanna go to Dropschip say ''unstuck me'' or go to enemy bunker

what if there are many enemies around, you dont want to stand around for 30 seconds when dropship warp is their to be used.

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Originally Posted by Liberated

i liked my idea better,
i think it would be good, but only if the owners of the HQ can press it, and it only affects enemys.

that was my intention when i posted the meaning, sweep fleets bunker bomb would kill storm and only sweep could press it; using this function shouldnt count as a kill to the player, but should add a death to those it kills

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I had tried (and failed) the turret route. Would have been nice if the auto turrets worked. Anyways your best bet is to have a time limit of how long they can be on a spawn base before instant death occurs. But your best bet is to just start blasting the crap out of every enemy you can.

you miss the point, im not talking about base laming, im talking about standing inside the bunker and shooting at the door, so people die as soon as they enter.

Ravenblade1979 · #7 02-20-2009, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

you miss the point, im not talking about base laming, im talking about standing inside the bunker and shooting at the door, so people die as soon as they enter.

Ah you mean bunker laming. See different thing unless its on spawn base then its called something different. For b1 and b2 (as i'm sure b3,b4 and b5 have no bunkers) you can just as easily tell if anyone is in if a nub runs and and don't come out.

usually then i just sat above the doorway and killed anything that came out of the door.

RealDDc · #8 02-20-2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Ah you mean bunker laming.

Sure, what else? Look at his topic.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

(...) See different thing unless its on spawn base then its called something different. For b1 and b2 (as i'm sure b3,b4 and b5 have no bunkers)...)

B2 dont even has a bunker either. The HQ's of each team have bunkers, aswell as base 1 has a bunker.

Base laming shouldn't be a problem anymore, with the 10 second invincibility after spawn. But bunker camping could be easily dealt with, with the adjusted gas grenades.

MiniOne · #9 02-20-2009, 07:16 AM

THE SIMPLEST WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS ONLY ALLOW THE TEAM WHICH OWNS THE BUNKER TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT!!!!!!!!!

its as simple as that

RevolutionJS · #10 02-20-2009, 02:41 PM

Its just no problem

Schetti · #11 02-20-2009, 02:51 PM

how about stop "defending" your friends if they bunker(HQ) lame.
KILL THEM!

RevolutionJS · #12 02-20-2009, 02:52 PM

Traitor

bahamutstevetff · #13 02-20-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

THE SIMPLEST WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS ONLY ALLOW THE TEAM WHICH OWNS THE BUNKER TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT!!!!!!!!!

its as simple as that

my idea has more of a kick to it.

muupig · #14 02-20-2009, 04:55 PM

We need a camera inside the bunker and a monitor outside.
Maybe that could help a bit.

RevolutionJS · #15 02-20-2009, 04:57 PM

:O sounds kool

Donark · #16 02-20-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by muupig

We need a camera inside the bunker and a monitor outside.
Maybe that could help a bit.

Actually, That's a pretty cool idea.

bahamutstevetff · #17 02-20-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by muupig

We need a camera inside the bunker and a monitor outside.
Maybe that could help a bit.

so we can sit like ducks watching a few nubbins shoot at the doors for 10 minuets?

maybe the D-TV news guy can name and shame epic lamers!

MiniOne · #18 02-20-2009, 11:56 PM

Your all idiots whats having a camera inside do? you'll still have players charging in..... it won't reduce laming by much having a camera.

bahamutstevetff · #19 02-21-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

Your all idiots whats having a camera inside do? you'll still have players charging in..... it won't reduce laming by much having a camera.

i suppose you could time your charge.

MiniOne · #20 02-21-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

i suppose you could time your charge.

I don't believe a lot of the zone players would do that, I think they'd just rush in since most of them are young

But i think denying access to bunkers for the other team is the simplest way of doing this but there's a plentiful amount of ideas streaming in, lets just hope one of these will be followed upon.

bahamutstevetff · #21 02-21-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

I don't believe a lot of the zone players would do that, I think they'd just rush in since most of them are young

But i think denying access to bunkers for the other team is the simplest way of doing this but there's a plentiful amount of ideas streaming in, lets just hope one of these will be followed upon.

so players get down to 10 hp and run to bunker?

Ravenblade1979 · #22 02-21-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

so players get down to 10 hp and run to bunker?

Have you seen what they do lol

MiniOne · #23 02-21-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

so players get down to 10 hp and run to bunker?

xD some do

haven't you seen them, they like rush in and die respawn and try again ..

Donark · #24 02-21-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

Your all idiots whats having a camera inside do? you'll still have players charging in..... it won't reduce laming by much having a camera.

Yes it will, If you can see people laming and what weapons they're using, no one will rush in.

Ravenblade1979 · #25 02-21-2009, 04:47 PM

There is one downfall I can see with the camera. Its going to lag the crap out of you because you will have a HUD to contend with. Unless they make it so you can turn it off.

RevolutionJS · #26 02-21-2009, 05:26 PM

I think its a to big script anyway.

bahamutstevetff · #27 02-21-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

xD some do

haven't you seen them, they like rush in and die respawn and try again ..

i was refering to only allowing access to the user team. you would get them down to low hp and they would run to the bunker and you woulnt be able to follow them.

MagikMasterMind · #28 02-21-2009, 08:13 PM

A day, I heard of another way to go back to dropship by saying ''unstick me''. You know your bunker is lamed? Unstick yourself, go to dropship, take out proxes, and prox the door. The enemy will surelly come out once in a while.

About the b1 warp, take a good walk?

Comon guys, aren't you tired of making some threads about laming? Thats all what we see these days! Just play smart and everything shall be ok.

RevolutionJS · #29 02-21-2009, 08:16 PM

Tsu has spoken.

Ravenblade1979 · #30 02-21-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

Comon guys, aren't you tired of making some threads about laming? Thats all what we see these days! Just play smart and everything shall be ok.

thats all they make threads about.

MagikMasterMind · #31 02-21-2009, 10:05 PM

I know.... They only have 1 thing in mind.

Stop the laming. And notice who's posting these threads. Most of them are part of these ''lamers''.

MiniOne · #32 02-21-2009, 11:42 PM

xD yes most are lamers

but i guess everyone lames now ... its just how the server is played

MiniOne · #33 02-22-2009, 12:42 AM

I've come to the understanding that zone is a lame server and nothing we say will do anything since the majority of us (zoners) will always lame no matter what we have to say. Since none of us will take it into their own hands to stop laming. Though the simplest solution is just stop laming I don't believe a lot of the server will cooperate by stopping so we should just keep playing how the server is since we won't be seeing a big change in a instance.

MagikMasterMind · #34 02-22-2009, 05:54 AM

Fix the laming? Easy.

Take your jetpack, go take all bases.

after a few games doing this, the other players will understand the laming won't be usefull, and they will start getting bases too. It's a mental game afterall!

MiniOne · #35 02-22-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

Fix the laming? Easy.

Take your jetpack, go take all bases.

after a few games doing this, the other players will understand the laming won't be usefull, and they will start getting bases too. It's a mental game afterall!

Its not effective since the lamers usually have jetpacks and they tend to just take base 3 after you've taken them all...
and it doesn't do much I've attempted this plenty of times

Donark · #36 02-22-2009, 04:35 PM

A prize every week or so should be given out to the player with the most won iricia games. Maybe that will actually cause people to play again

Ravenblade1979 · #37 02-22-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Donark

A prize every week or so should be given out to the player with the most won iricia games. Maybe that will actually cause people to play again

As long as it was made clear that lamers won't be included in this weekly prize. Otherwise its just going to go off of who got the most kills.

otherwise its a really simple yet good idea. An incentive to actually take and keep bases.

doyouskate · #38 02-22-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

Fix the laming? Easy.

Take your jetpack, go take all bases.

after a few games doing this, the other players will understand the laming won't be usefull, and they will start getting bases too. It's a mental game afterall!

If that worked, we wouldn't still be complaining about base laming.

Jesper · #39 02-22-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

As long as it was made clear that lamers won't be included in this weekly prize. Otherwise its just going to go off of who got the most kills.

otherwise its a really simple yet good idea. An incentive to actually take and keep bases.

There should be a prize for the player of the week !

Maybe the player who were player of the week, gets a new special (player of the week) weapon. The player of next week, will also get that weapon, and then it will be removed by the other player of the last week. Like a switch-cup (weapon)

Good idea?

MagikMasterMind · #40 02-22-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MiniOne

Its not effective since the lamers usually have jetpacks and they tend to just take base 3 after you've taken them all...
and it doesn't do much I've attempted this plenty of times

Have you ever tough of proxing that bases <.<?

And it does work. When I don't feel like laming, (Yes, I'm honest) I do this. And players get pissed off and they start playing the game for wins.

I remember these old days when we were all running at base 1 to protect it. That was insane.