Ol' West

[Unkownsoldier]

I never see any staff on Ol' West ever, it is almost as desolate as its tileset. Why is this still on the list even though you hear nothing of work getting done on it or ever see staff working on it. Other more active servers have been deleted from the list yet Ol' West stays?

[Tigairius]

I guess you should be asking the same thing about the other hosted servers too. Ol' West is the most original hosted server and the purpose of the hosted servers is to attract new developers to the server. Nobody wants to help Ol' West on a developer-standpoint, and it's not our fault. Why shouldn't it stay on the list? It still meets the requirements of the hosted list.

I find it strange that you're specifically targeting Ol' West when the other hosted servers aren't much better, if not worse.

[kia345]

Ol' West is one of the most charming things I've seen on Graal. Who cares if no one's on it, it still looks better than all the other OC/Hosted servers, although that's that's not saying much.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

I never see any staff on Ol' West ever, it is almost as desolate as its tileset. Why is this still on the list even though you hear nothing of work getting done on it or ever see staff working on it. Other more active servers have been deleted from the list yet Ol' West stays?

never is a strong word, the npc server is always on!

[Stromstedt]

I don't see why you are complaining. If you are sitting here, complaining about the hosted tab, it can mean one of two things or both:
A) That you're jealous that your server isn't good enough to get on the hosted tab.
B) You have no life..

Find something better to do.

[Unkownsoldier]

Or it could mean there is only two hosted servers on the hosted tab, one is has staff one does not. The difference from being on the hosted tab and not is the staff and server quality. I do not own a server, and I have a life. If hosted servers are about attracting developers look out there could be around seventy servers on the hosted list instead of 2, would that make you happy?

[CharlieM]

As of right now the only servers that qualify as being on hosted are Ol' West and what Aeon? and imo Ol' west is 100x better. It doesn't matter what your opinion is on things about hosted lists it doesn't matter you get on for the quality of the server and the original content. If atrius comes back with the same it would most likely go back on hosted. The server is 100x better then almost every server that isn't hosted and tig is busy with other things and mag quit last I knew. If a developer asks im sure they would be hired.

[Nataxo]

No.

Sorry, But I've never seen any activity for a whole year x_X

[DustyPorViva]

Are any of the hosted servers really active?

[CharlieM]

Those of you who voted no explain to me what you think a hosted server is.

[zim5354]

ol' west was the ****, it was my favorite server to work for (waaaaay back then)

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

Those of you who voted no explain to me what you think a hosted server is.

a server that's hosted

[CharlieM]

all servers are hosted

[shrimps]

From what I remember, it's something like few workable quests, so many indoor/outdoor levels, completed. other random crap like that?

[CharlieM]

Mhm and the server is still payed for by whoever is the owner currently, Hosted is pretty much a halfway there for classic, but its just to get the name out and get testers kinda like Beta testing

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

all servers are hosted

No. A Hosted server is a server listed on the Hosted tab.

[shrimps]

I love how people are always smart asses when posting about something.

[Unkownsoldier]

Well this is a race to the finish, we are tied at 8 all a tie so far. Yet Ol' West once subscription runs out which hopefully will be soon it will go..
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[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

Well this is a race to the finish, we are tied at 8 all a tie so far. Yet Ol' West once subscription runs out which hopefully will be soon it will go..
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i don't get it where does it go from there

[CharlieM]

I don't get it why would it matter if ol west's subscription ran out? and ziro all servers are hosted by graal online or hosted threw servers they may have to rent. Tig are you still paying for ol west?

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by CharlieM

and ziro all servers are hosted by graal online or hosted threw servers they may have to rent.

Wrong, all servers are owned by Graal.

[CharlieM]

I know I couldn't remember if they had to rent or not, the player servers are hosted on there servers though

[DuBsTeRmAn]

Wrong. I work on 'Ol West, I am online there.. Sometimes, now i have heard they are making things or something and they will tell me when i can start working (Tileset changing or something i think)

[Clockwork]

Paid for, last time I checked Mag was still looking for help while he developed.

[Unkownsoldier]

orly

[CharlieM]

Hosted servers are nothing special there still being payed for by the developer, and its not preventing another server from getting on the list, btw most people don't have to log in and idle on rc all day they can do there stuff offline except for scripting which if you look at the people who scripted for it they have it down pat.

[Luigi203]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

I never see any staff on Ol' West ever, it is almost as desolate as its tileset. Why is this still on the list even though you hear nothing of work getting done on it or ever see staff working on it. Other more active servers have been deleted from the list yet Ol' West stays?

Why is it such a problem to you? Why is it bothering you? How do you know that no work is getting done? Please, find something else to complain about, or at least figure out what you're talking about.

[CharlieM]

Originally Posted by Luigi203

Why is it such a problem to you? Why is it bothering you? How do you know that no work is getting done? Please, find something else to complain about, or at least figure out what you're talking about.

This is what I was trying to get at without saying it that way.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I guess you should be asking the same thing about the other hosted servers too. Ol' West is the most original hosted server and the purpose of the hosted servers is to attract new developers to the server. Nobody wants to help Ol' West on a developer-standpoint, and it's not our fault. Why shouldn't it stay on the list? It still meets the requirements of the hosted list.

I find it strange that you're specifically targeting Ol' West when the other hosted servers aren't much better, if not worse.

There are a few UC and Hosted servers I've wanted to work on. However, I never can, because I only have Lifetime Classic. I don't see why exceptions can't be made...

[CharlieM]

You mean you don't see why they can't allow lifetime classic to use rc on other servers other then classic? I know some servers will lend there developers gelets to pay for a month or more of gold

[Vima]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

I guess you should be asking the same thing about the other hosted servers too. Ol' West is the most original hosted server and the purpose of the hosted servers is to attract new developers to the server. Nobody wants to help Ol' West on a developer-standpoint, and it's not our fault. Why shouldn't it stay on the list? It still meets the requirements of the hosted list.

I find it strange that you're specifically targeting Ol' West when the other hosted servers aren't much better, if not worse.

I don't agree with that.
AEON is not worse than Ol West. I haven't seen your server with players in atleast a half year and obviously its not like you're making progress.

But however, Ol West meets the requirements for Hosted Tab, so why should it be taken down? Because of inactivity? They still pay for the server.
If Ol West should be taken down, so should Delteria and Atlantis... but thats another issue.

[Vima]

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier

Or it could mean there is only two hosted servers on the hosted tab, one is has staff one does not. The difference from being on the hosted tab and not is the staff and server quality. I do not own a server, and I have a life. If hosted servers are about attracting developers look out there could be around seventy servers on the hosted list instead of 2, would that make you happy?

Well then finish some stuff on your server, apply for hosted inspection... the requirements are low so if you got enough content, you'll be on hosted tab.
Purpose of Hosted tab (imo) is just to get more attention from the players, show our work so far... get new staff.
It's harder than it might sound, as Ol West having struggle to get new developers, so are we on AEON.
That's why our servers have been there very long. Staff comes, Staff goes.

Why people aren't bothering applying on Hosted Tab's server, I don't know. Eeeeveryone wants to make their own server, who probably will die before they are going to apply to either hosted tab or classic tab.

[Pimmeh]

Actually I believe a Hosted server had to be 1 to 2 hours of playability without it getting repetative.
Right?

[Rufus]

You're all talking a load of crap to be honest. The purpose of the hosted tab as I understand it was to integrate your server into a "live" and "open" setting, to make sure your systems and such were well received, create a server buzz, and to ensure it works well when there's actual players online. While this may have initially stood for Ol' West, it is one of the worst servers visually and as "charming" as it may be, the ironic desolation of the server just isn't made up for. There is little to do and I know this I've logged on quite a few times and with 0 players, and such little content, you can hardly entertain yourself. I have seen Ol' Wests new tileset, and things are looking up to be quite fair, but it still shouldn't be on the Hosted tab.

Both Hosted playerworlds have kind of faded into the background for me. I never ever notice Ol' West and I never notice Aeon, and keeping them both on the Hosted list is not within their best interests, server staff or not. What exactly do you think is achieved when keeping those servers up while no one notices or plays them up? Longativity? Easier access when they are eventually updated? Well guess what guys, there's a less chance that people will notice or care you've updated the servers saying as they're kind of "always there" and always doing nothing -- it brings the server down.

If you aren't working on these servers themselves then remove them from the hosted tab as yes, they are detrimental up there with 0 players and 0 updates. Delteria is exactly the same and I've said this to Sandz a lot, you just are not going to have the same *umph* releasing content onto a dead server as you would with a "new server" release. I personally think the Hosted tab itself should be removed completely, but that's a different story altogether and as for the suckups of Tig that voted yes, why the hell aren't you on Ol' West playing if you feel so passionately about it? Grow up idiots and look at the bigger picture.

[Luigi203]

Originally Posted by Rufus

stuff

Most of what you said actually makes sense, although I don't particularly care to agree with you, I have to give you the fact that you're making sense which is a departure from what I've seen on this thread.

I've been making every effort up until late to get this server going. Unfortunately, the lack of a steady flow of images is what's holding me back. I'm trying to work something out with Tom at the moment, so what plans I have are totally at his mercy.

I don't think I've ever seen a hosted server go back to UC status because of globals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was always by the owner's design, or the server ran out of servertime and dissappeared completely. Hopefully sometime in the near future things will start to happen.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Luigi203

I don't think I've ever seen a hosted server go back to UC status because of globals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was always by the owner's design, or the server ran out of servertime and dissappeared completely. Hopefully sometime in the near future things will start to happen.

It's because these servers don't even get noticed. You want your server to be successful, stand out from the crowd and be noticed so the way it's going on right now is not suitable for you IMO.

[Unkownsoldier]

Well than Rufus I assume you are on my side then.

[CharlieM]

There are no sides, this argument doesn't matter what you think isn't going to change if it qualifies to be on the hosted tab.

[Luigi203]

Something more must be wrong with him if after all that he still says something like that.

[Unkownsoldier]

Luigi there are other problems at hand, Ol' West is an inactive server while others are active and are getting better everyday like Maloria, Azure Skies, maybe even babylon.