Management resignation - Page 2

CharlieM · #41 10-06-2008, 04:15 AM

Houdini is running the server most likely until there is someone found who can and will accept the manager job.

Sinkler · #42 10-06-2008, 04:22 AM

Exactly, why are people so angry about that?

xJenn · #43 10-06-2008, 04:23 AM

It'd be sad to see Frankie gone =[ We where just starting to love each other too </3
Lol.

But yeah, overall... drama is drama and everythings happened, arguing it won't get anywhere unless someone can persude houdiniman to give the mangement to Icarus again which I highly doubt.

Pooper- TSA wasn't PWA when the issue started, he only got it half way through it.

Sinkler · #44 10-06-2008, 04:35 AM

PWA will handle everything. Simple as that.

Shotoo2 · #45 10-06-2008, 04:37 AM

TSA's going to be running the show for now

TSAdmin · #46 10-06-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000

Any of the should's that relate to me.

It's extremely difficult to have been "At the front" of this thing when the arguments and the kind leading up to today's events were well underway while I was sleeping. By the time I had got on RC this morning, the argument had reached a point where it didn't matter WHAT I said, they were all hell bent on yelling at each other and acting like children. Excuse my not being American and hanging out during American times and all that, but I really wasn't to know this was about to happen, nor did I know HoudiniMan was going to get on and put them on probation because Frankie was being rude/arrogant/whatever he was doing to get under HM's nose.

thesmoothcriminal · #47 10-06-2008, 04:44 AM

lol @ graal politics and lol @ drama over a game

that said it defeats the purpose if PWA interferes/runs a playerworld. I though the whole idea behind graal was that players could make their own content and run it?

Sinkler · #48 10-06-2008, 04:45 AM

TSA, I knw you'll do a better than the past Era staff team.
I supported your management before, and I support it now.

WarLord2004 · #49 10-06-2008, 04:48 AM

Err even it's the owners/admin fault or whatever for being rude/ignorant/childish i don't think a PWA should really try and implement such force like putting someone on probation w/o consent of stefan/unixmad remember even thought people tend to argue about stupid stuff... Higher personals should step in, it's what happen in the past and i don't think it should change now... There's they says

Your Story
His Story
and the truth....

If no one wanted houndin man doing developements in the first place contact stefan and let him know the issue don't go making arguments which has lead you to what has happen today.. Yes PWA has rights to give you a warning..ect but to put something in full effect needs to be decided by stefan...

natchez416 · #50 10-06-2008, 04:49 AM

I just hope he can do a better job than last time. From a players point of view I saw absolutely Nothing being done during his last term.
But if it's him who's going to be manager I wish him luck and hope he does a good job.
I just want to see this reset start happening during my lifetime.

TSAdmin · #51 10-06-2008, 04:53 AM

Just clearing this point up: I'm not the focus of the topic as a whole, and won't be viewed as "Era's Manager" in any way. I want to appoint a manager and GTFO, but with the way the team has been left in tatters as it is now, it's not that simple and I realise that.

WarLord2004 · #52 10-06-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin

Just clearing this point up: I'm not the focus of the topic as a whole, and won't be viewed as "Era's Manager" in any way. I want to appoint a manager and GTFO, but with the way the team has been left in tatters as it is now, it's not that simple and I realise that.

Well as i can see the only player that actually answers questions for other Playerworlds is infact TSA... I don't mind if there should be a vote poll... But era needs to have a change of staffs badly Yes Frankie was a good member of the team but the rest has been pretty uptight am guessing fake pixel guns make you bad..

Anyways before anyone decides on era's fate make sure it's a good manager and not someone who has a bunch of staffs walking all over him/her..

And regardless what has happened Houndin should not even try to make himself temp manager...

WTF direct all staff questions..ect to Houndin erm no guy....your not someone graal would turn to... Before yea but not anymore....

I have no hate/issue with you but you simply and clearly don't do a thing...

Yocas · #53 10-06-2008, 05:20 AM

So whose left then?

cbk1994 · #54 10-06-2008, 05:23 AM

There really aren't any other administrators on Era fit to take the part. Unless a scripter or someone is to take the role of manager (or some other staff, but a scripter seems most likely), then my guess is that the PWA will have to manage Era for a while.

WarLord2004 · #55 10-06-2008, 05:27 AM

Well good luck to TSA he seems fit for the job.......Even if i owned a server i would trust his hands....

xAzerothx · #56 10-06-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WarLord2004

Well good luck to TSA he seems fit for the job.......Even if i owned a server i would trust his hands....

Um, didn't he quit?

Bell · #57 10-06-2008, 07:20 AM

I am only on a leave of absence Frankie, you might say my resignation was altered a bit. I've had an emergency disaster with work and told TSA today that I would get back as quickly as I can. Neither TSA nor Houdini can manage Era for more than a short period of time but it sounds to me like things have escalated even worse than I expected. I feel history repeating itself yet again on Era.

WarLord2004 · #58 10-06-2008, 07:26 AM

Well alot of us are still waiting to see what houndin has to say.....But by one little note u made there when you say HM make a remark to you saying players wanted to remove you and Icarus and make him owner.. isn't the players choice... Infact it's not even houndin choice... If this is true seems like since day one he wanted to try and take over...

This has happened already on Graal and should be directed to Stefan...

When Nemesis could not have his way on Graal he abused his rights... So before another repeat tends to happen someone needs to resolve this... Stefan lack the last time he was warned and when he came on the next day he found out a few players worlds was deleted...

Am not saying this is intended by HM but if you can push around your power on a simple server you may do it to everyone else..

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Originally Posted by Bell

I am only on a leave of absence Frankie, you might say my resignation was altered a bit. I've had an emergency disaster with work and told TSA today that I would get back as quickly as I can. Neither TSA nor Houdini can manage Era for more than a short period of time but it sounds to me like things have escalated even worse than I expected. I feel history repeating itself yet again on Era.

If houndin seems to be the problem of the entire issue bell just because like any other players someone who harassed someone ...ect get's banned...ect

Why not stop HM from logging onto era.?

Yes he's a PWA but what frankie says seems to be very much like harassment.

Why would a PWA log on rc to a certain server everyday when he/she was not hired.... Yes it's a playerworld he likes but can't he play as a regular player?

This is really confusing to how Graal has become a PowerTrip now..

It's true what TifaKhan say a while back..
(Quote)
Everyone seems to want better rights and more power

DarkRenji · #59 10-06-2008, 07:38 AM

I heard houdini already hated Icarus, And knightness was massing **** like " Don't like Era managment? Send a ticket! houdini is just lookin for a reason to fire icarus! "

Although that was like 1 week ago, z.z

Frankie, Icarus and others who quit/ fired.
Good luck in future staff things or in real life

Sad it had to turn out like this.

Meph · #60 10-06-2008, 07:40 AM

Era's up for grabs?

I'll take it.

DuBsTeRmAn · #61 10-06-2008, 08:17 AM

Hey Frankie, And Icarus....

I will miss u both, Goodbye ;(

thesmoothcriminal · #62 10-06-2008, 08:27 AM

I think this is the end for the slowly dying era. It will stagnate for alwhile then players will begin to leave era and graal.

Atruis, i have bagged you in the past but now its time to fill the growing void

Bell you sell out, quit like the rest of them.

Also Graal/litter should quit to

Dumdumdidi · #63 10-06-2008, 09:35 AM

Oh please. it led to my resignation too.
You guys tore down the project Houndiniman assigned to me and kimmy -.-
and for weeks there was nothing to do.

After that Houdini gave me more projects, leading to uncertainty whether i should even do them. You and Icarus should have clarified these doubts without having to fight head on with the PWA; cause it will never benefit anyone.

Honestly, i think it would have been better if you guys really did compromise. I didnt really like the attitudes that both sides gave me and this resignation isn't really a good way to "benefit era" so as you said.

xXziroXx · #64 10-06-2008, 09:44 AM

Something tells me Houdini had a good reason for doing what he did, and I'd hardly call him "power hungry" considering he can't really get more power then what he already have with his job.

People have been saying that he did similar things with Zodiac while I managed it, yet I didn't notice it at all - funny how rumors can be.

And Frankie, I must say, your points in this thread doesn't appear too credible since you appear to be writing most things out of spite of Houdini.

Well, bottom line is, if I were to be on anyone side I'd stay neutral while leaning a little more towards Houdini then Frankie.

death_striker · #65 10-06-2008, 09:58 AM

Im happy your both gone, but im sad that David and EC are quiting aswell. Thanks for screwing era up even more.

death_striker, Chris Cutrale

Shotoo2 · #66 10-06-2008, 01:56 PM

Managers are bound to be hated, but turning to the PWA every time you get a little pissed off is a mistake. The PWA used to just overthrow managers who were so terrible that they were killing the server entirely, such as Jenn or Alec. Whatever Frankie and Icarus may have done it is certainly not as awful as the actions of Jenn and Alec. By constantly telling the PWA that the entire server's administration needs to be removed just because you don't like them ends up putting the server at risk.

Right now there are very few people with the experience to take over Era, which is a direct result of this whole situation.

xTcDiabloxTc · #67 10-06-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotoo2

Managers are bound to be hated, but turning to the PWA every time you get a little pissed off is a mistake. The PWA used to just overthrow managers who were so terrible that they were killing the server entirely, such as Jenn or Alec. Whatever Frankie and Icarus may have done it is certainly not as awful as the actions of Jenn and Alec. By constantly telling the PWA that the entire server's administration needs to be removed just because you don't like them ends up putting the server at risk.

Right now there are very few people with the experience to take over Era, which is a direct result of this whole situation.

i love mange.

DuBsTeRmAn · #68 10-06-2008, 02:41 PM

Hmm, I wouldnt get why HoudiniMan cant be the Manager? He does have alot of good idea's. And even today he planned alot of things which have to be done. I see somehting happening now ;o

DustyPorViva · #69 10-06-2008, 02:47 PM

Um... Houndini is head PWA. Doesn't he have enough stuff on his saucer?

xTcDiabloxTc · #70 10-06-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Um... Houndini is head PWA. Doesn't he have enough stuff on his saucer?

You'd think that, but the truth is Houdini does little to nothing as far as his PWA job goes, other than meddle with Era, that is. Funny...the same thing he criticized Vulcan for.

Crow · #71 10-06-2008, 02:53 PM

Sad to hear, really. That's all I have to say. I'm going to watch how this will develop, and if I don't like the situation I will most likely resign aswell.

DustyPorViva · #72 10-06-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xTcDiabloxTc

You'd think that, but the truth is Houdini does little to nothing as far as his PWA job goes, other than meddle with Era, that is. Funny...the same thing he criticized Vulcan for.

Gotta read between the lines in my post

Shotoo2 · #73 10-06-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Hmm, I wouldnt get why HoudiniMan cant be the Manager? He does have alot of good idea's. And even today he planned alot of things which have to be done. I see somehting happening now ;o

When the PWA outsiders come to develop on Era (i.e. people who are PWA that didn't play Era ever), they rarely make good decisions regarding exactly what Era needs and the direction it ought to be headed in. As I said, it seems that TSA will be the liason between the PWA and Era's staff at the moment, so hopefully that means ideas for development projects that wouldn't work out on Era won't be imposed upon the staff team!

Bell · #74 10-06-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Hmm, I wouldnt get why HoudiniMan cant be the Manager? He does have alot of good idea's. And even today he planned alot of things which have to be done. I see somehting happening now ;o

A PWA is not allowed to manage a server as it can create obvious conflicts of interest. In the past they were not even supposed to be permanent staff on any one server for the same reason. Vulcan, Houdini and I had agreed that being staff to help a server would be alright as long as it didn't start causing problems. In which case we would have to resign the position. We would not be management though, only support staff.

xAzerothx · #75 10-06-2008, 05:03 PM

I wonder where all the players will go if Era goes downhill.

Atrius? LOLZ?

Yocas · #76 10-06-2008, 05:05 PM

Once again another Era management team is shot down due to the interference of PWA.

De ja vu.

I would really like to know who these complainers are.

Understood · #77 10-06-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Yocas

Once again another Era management team is shot down due to the interference of PWA.

De ja vu.

I would really like to know who these complainers are.

People who were banned, denied something they wanted, not chosen as FAQ,
scammed, etc.

The usual *****es.

Yocas · #78 10-06-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Understood

People who were banned, denied something they wanted, not chosen as FAQ,
scammed, etc.

The usual *****es.

That's a lot of complainers.

Frankie · #79 10-06-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by death_striker

Im happy your both gone, but im sad that David and EC are quiting aswell. Thanks for screwing era up even more.

death_striker, Chris Cutrale

yeah, the person that sent me steam friend requests and frequent MSN friend requests most likely to suck up to me and / or annoy the **** out of me to do personal favors for them is now the one saying I screwed Era up, lol

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Originally Posted by Dumdumdidi

Oh please. it led to my resignation too.
You guys tore down the project Houndiniman assigned to me and kimmy -.-
and for weeks there was nothing to do.

After that Houdini gave me more projects, leading to uncertainty whether i should even do them. You and Icarus should have clarified these doubts without having to fight head on with the PWA; cause it will never benefit anyone.

Honestly, i think it would have been better if you guys really did compromise. I didnt really like the attitudes that both sides gave me and this resignation isn't really a good way to "benefit era" so as you said.

We tore it down because Houdini is not the dev admin of Era. He logged on at 3 in the morning when I wasn't there, Icarus was on (since he never sleeps) After Icarus told him no and went to bed, he woke up the next morning and saw some huge section closed off where Houdini wanted to put his little project. I don't mind him leading projects but when it's something that Icarus and I don't agree on, we're not going to let it happen (and I've stated this many many many times)

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Originally Posted by Shotoo2

Managers are bound to be hated, but turning to the PWA every time you get a little pissed off is a mistake. The PWA used to just overthrow managers who were so terrible that they were killing the server entirely, such as Jenn or Alec. Whatever Frankie and Icarus may have done it is certainly not as awful as the actions of Jenn and Alec. By constantly telling the PWA that the entire server's administration needs to be removed just because you don't like them ends up putting the server at risk.

Right now there are very few people with the experience to take over Era, which is a direct result of this whole situation.

Very true. No comment though.

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

Hmm, I wouldnt get why HoudiniMan cant be the Manager? He does have alot of good idea's. And even today he planned alot of things which have to be done. I see somehting happening now ;o

HoudiniMan doesn't really play Era. I don't see how he can come up with really good game play ideas. Icarus and I had ideas that would of made Era a lot more fun and enjoyable. Even the players did, which many player ideas were going to be implemented. I don't see how Houdini can do that if he doesn't really know Era as well as Icarus and myself do.

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Um... Houndini is head PWA. Doesn't he have enough stuff on his saucer?

I don't really think being the Head PWA is any harder than a standalone PWA. You watch over 2 other people (3 when Bell comes back) That's just how I see it though.

another wall of text. have fun!!!

[email protected] · #80 10-06-2008, 06:34 PM

already missing you all x-x

the dev server is going great, i've added alot of new things to it already! just because most of it doesn't even have an interface doesn't mean it's not there.