jetpack

[Crono]

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Um, what?

No sorry carry on, you are clearly more knowledged on these matters than I am, Huwajux.

Originally Posted by RosesLove

How is that contradicting myself? I thought it was pretty clear that I didn't agree with what you said. Maybe you should pay a little more attention, no?

By saying "And" (for whatever reason, whether it was lazyness or an attempt to be witty) you pretty much agreed to what I said and ended up contradicting yourself by saying it was pointless. Maybe you should pay a little more attention, no?

To clear up any confusion you may have, why would an item that does not kill need a kill value?

Please tell me, is there something wrong with the Jetpack? No?
The jetpack itself is not trash, so theres no reason arguing over it.

This has nothing to do with the thread but ok.

Mygod, Stop nitpicking.

I think there's usually a space between my and "god". You don't need to capitalize the "S" after the comma, and it's "God" if I'm going to be such a nitpicker.

I personally would rather fix the large scale problems first, than run around playing with the minor things that don't affect gameplay in the least.

Ok have fun, because large scale changes will never occur on Zone.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

No sorry carry on, you are clearly more knowledged on these matters than I am, Huwajux.

No I wasn't being arrogant. I just wanted to know what you were trying to get across. I didn't understand.

Originally Posted by Crono

Ok have fun, because large scale changes will never occur on Zone.

We're not discussing what and will not happen. It's what we feel would be the best method of choice if large scale changes did take place.

[RosesLove]

Originally Posted by Crono

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

Originally Posted by RosesLove

don't affect gameplay.

^

Guess you're just going to have to suck it up.
If I was the one in charge of fixing this, I would keep it there forever just to piss you guys off, haha. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

No I wasn't being arrogant. I just wanted to know what you were trying to get across. I didn't understand.

Alright, I was just checking to see if you're trying to enlighten other forum posters with your long posts or if you really thought I didn't know all this.

We're not discussing what and will not happen. It's what we feel would be the best method of choice if large scale changes did take place.

That's great but I'm actually speaking from a practical standpoint. RosesLove stated that she'd rather have the large-scale issues fixed first, while you and I both know that will never happen.

Originally Posted by RosesLove

don't affect gameplay.

Are you seriously saying that aesthetics and whatnot should be ignored because they don't affect gameplay?

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

Alright, I was just checking to see if you're trying to enlighten other forum posters with your long posts or if you really thought I didn't know all this.

Um, what?

Originally Posted by Crono

That's great but I'm actually speaking from a practical standpoint.

And we aren't. We all know these large scale changes have a minimal chance of taking place, but it's good to throw in your ideas on how things should be done just to see how other people's differ. Therefore continuing this dicussion is unnecessary and pointless.

Originally Posted by Crono

Are you seriously saying that aesthetics and whatnot should be ignored because they don't affect gameplay?

When there are a bunch of drastic problems that need to be taken into account, I think taking the kills sign off the jetpack window can be pushed aside for a bit.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Um, what?

wat

And we aren't. We all know these large scale changes have a minimal chance of taking place, but it's good to throw in your ideas on how things should be done just to see how other people's differ. Therefore continuing this dicussion is unnecessary and pointless.

So you admit that neither of you are speaking from a practical standpoint. We are all fully aware that large-scale actions will most likely ever take place, yes? In that case, answer my question:

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

When there are a bunch of drastic problems that need to be taken into account, I think taking the kills sign off the jetpack window can be pushed aside for a bit.

Pushed aside for what?

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by Crono

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

Cuz stefan no trusty Dan?

[RosesLove]

Originally Posted by Crono

By saying "And" (for whatever reason, whether it was lazyness or an attempt to be witty) you pretty much agreed to what I said and ended up contradicting yourself by saying it was pointless. Maybe you should pay a little more attention, no?

Okay, I got that. I still don't see what you're getting at though. Just saying "and" doesn't mean I'm agreeing.

This has nothing to do with the thread but ok.

LOL, It doesn't? The title clearly says "jetpack" so.
Maybe you're in the wrong thread, it would explain a lot.

But no, I was pointing out that it shouldn't matter if it says kills or not, as long as the item is still functional.

I think there's usually a space between my and "god". You don't need to capitalize the "S" after the comma, and it's "God" if I'm going to be such a nitpicker.

You can stop being an ******* now, it's not cute.

That's great but I'm actually speaking from a practical standpoint. RosesLove stated that she'd rather have the large-scale issues fixed first, while you and I both know that will never happen.

I was saying IF, IF, I was the one who was in charge of such issues, then I would go for the bigger problems first. Obviously I'm not, so whatever.

Are you seriously saying that aesthetics and whatnot should be ignored because they don't affect gameplay?

If there are other, bigger problems that need to be addressed, then yes I am.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by RosesLove

You can stop being an ******* now, it's not cute.

I found it extremely hot and cute.suckuplulz

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

wat

Can you just explain to me what you want to get across instead of giving witty remarks? I honestly didn't understand your explaination either. If you think I'm winding you up, you know I love you! <3

Originally Posted by Crono

So you admit that neither of you are speaking from a practical standpoint. We are all fully aware that large-scale actions will most likely ever take place, yes? In that case, answer my question:

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

As I said before, the Zone staff aren't that organised and will just fix what the players are giving stick to. If the staff were like a well oiled machine then I'd have no problem in one of them popping online, doing what they need to do for a few minutes and then logging off again or continuing work on something more significant.

Originally Posted by Crono

Pushed aside for what?

Ugh, as I said before, the hideous recoloured GW map, the 9 year old staff members and the extremely unbalanced weapons. Wouldn't you rather have one of those fixed first before a little graphical issue being addressed?

[RosesLove]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Therefore continuing this dicussion is unnecessary and pointless.

Agreed, so I'm just going to leave this thread alone. Good luck getting your jet pack fixed, Crono/elizabeth.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by RosesLove

Okay, I got that. I still don't see what you're getting at though. Just saying "and" doesn't mean I'm agreeing.

To me it looked like you were trying to be witty and expand on what I was saying with a hint of sarcasm. What you ended up doing was agreeing with me and contradicting yourself directly afterwards.

That's all, jeez.

LOL, It doesn't? The title clearly says "jetpack" so.
Maybe you're in the wrong thread, it would explain a lot.

The topic is about the kill stat which appears when you equip a jetpack, it has nothing to do with how the jetpack works and so on.

If there are other, bigger problems that need to be addressed, then yes I am.

We've already established that large-scale actions are pretty much not going to happen, and I'm suggesting they go ahead and fix this small issue now. It should take no longer than 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Can you just explain to me what you want to get across instead of giving witty remarks? I honestly didn't understand your explaination either. If you think I'm winding you up, you know I love you! <3

I'm not really being witty, I was simply trying to make sure that your long posts about how Zone works and how things won't get done were meant to enlighten these other posters, because I'm already fully aware of these issues and it would be silly to think so otherwise. <3

As I said before, the Zone staff aren't that organised and will just fix what the players are giving stick to. If the staff were like a well oiled machine then I'd have no problem in one of them popping online, doing what they need to do for a few minutes and then logging off again or continuing work on something more significant.

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

For the record such a simple fix will probably be done by Stefan himself so don't worry about their staff team.

Ugh, as I said before, the hideous recoloured GW map, the 9 year old staff members and the extremely unbalanced weapons. Wouldn't you rather have one of those fixed first before a little graphical issue?

We just established that large scale actions will never take place, and I also stated that I'm posting from a practical standpoint.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

For the record such a simple fix will probably be done by Stefan himself so don't worry about their staff team.

Well of course it will. We've made a huge debate about it on the forum which is like an unnoticable ugly boil on the forum menu. Now that such a fuss has been made about it, Stefan might listen and actually fix it. This therefore proves my point that the staff will only fix certain issues which get a lot of stick from the players. If the issues was brought up past a staff member through a quick PM by a player it would probably be ignored or forgotten about.

Originally Posted by Crono

We just established that large scale actions will never take place, and I also stated that I'm posting from a practical standpoint. For the record such a simple fix will probably be done by Stefan himself so don't worry about their staff team.

Well we just established that I'm talking from a idealogical standpoint. For the record, of course the problem will be fixed since we've made a huge debate about it on the forum which is hardly unnoticable.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Well of course it will. We've made a huge debate about it on the forum which is like an unnoticable ugly boil on the forum menu. Now that such a fuss has been made about it, Stefan might listen and actually fix it. This therefore proves my point that the staff will only fix certain issues which get a lot of stick from the players. If the issues was brought up past a staff member through a quick PM by a player it would probably be ignored or forgotten about.

I was going to ask him next time I see him on RC anyway.

Well we just established that I'm talking from a idealogical standpoint.

Yes, yes we did.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Crono

Yes, yes we did.

And that's why our viewpoints differ.

[RosesLove]

Originally Posted by Crono

To me it looked like you were trying to be witty and expand on what I was saying with a hint of sarcasm. What you ended up doing was agreeing with me and contradicting yourself directly afterwards.

That's all, jeez.

To me, it looked like you were trying to put the focus on that I said and, while you ignored the more important points of my arguement.

The topic is about the kill stat which appears when you equip a jetpack, it has nothing to do with how the jetpack works and so on.

Didn't you read the part where I said, "But no, I was pointing out that it shouldn't matter if it says kills or not, as long as the item is still functional."

You're missing the point of everything I said, and looking at the small details. Habit for you? :/

We've already established that large-scale actions are pretty much not going to happen, and I'm suggesting they go ahead and fix this small issue now. It should take no longer than 5 minutes.

Again, missing the point. It was that I WOULD, ME, not the current Zone team, ME. Go for the big problems before worrying about.. this.
But I hope they would also see how pointless this is as well.

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?

I wont bother answering this again, obviously we just have different views and you really don't care if it matters or not.
Some better than others..

[Crono]

Didn't you read the part where I said, "But no, I was pointing out that it shouldn't matter if it says kills or not, as long as the item is still functional."

You're missing the point of everything I said, and looking at the small details. Habit for you? :/

Yes that's great but you're basically turning a blind eye to the problem.

Again, missing the point. It was that I WOULD, ME, not the current Zone team, ME. Go for the big problems before worrying about.. this.
But I hope they would also see how pointless this is as well.

Yeah, and once again that's great because in an ideal world I would also want all the large-scale actions to happen but we all know it's not so we might as well make realistic suggestions in this thread. Which is what I have been doing unlike you two.

I wont bother answering this again, obviously we just have different views and you really don't care if it matters or not.
Some better than others..

Have you ever been staff on Zone, let alone played it?

[RosesLove]

Originally Posted by Crono

Have you ever been staff on Zone, let alone played it?

Yeah I have, for an ENTIRE week, I'm pro!

[Crono]

Originally Posted by RosesLove

Yeah I have, for an ENTIRE week, I'm pro!

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Huwa complaining about unprofessionalism and the gwars dropship

The hideously recolored map is still a map. It is functional. Yes, it would be nice to have unique designs and aesthetically pleasing levels and graphics. However the dropship isn't as important as the actual map.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Easier to fix, yes. However it is questionable as to why someone would pay such a large amount of attention to a minor fault in the game when the game itself is just one big lump of faults. Which is what we're discussing.

If the entire game is one large lump of faults, wouldn't the best solution be to step back and analyze the situation? Then when you know the best standpoint to start from you can. Any progress is progress regardless of whether it is large or small.
The point is problems should be fixed.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Well if Zone is going to get itself out of this grave that it has dug itself, which is nearing the center of the Earth, they are going to have to work on the problems which need addressing the most. Once the huge problems have been sorted out they can start fine-tuning the little bugs here and there to make the game appear more polished. However, you believe it should be done the other way around and I can't argue with that since it is purely your opinion.

I hate to say it, but they can focus on both. They could take their sweet time, which is entirely possible, and focus on both issues on and off so as to provide a fresh breath of air.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

The Zone staff isn't that organised, whatever gets a lot of stick from the players is what they work on. Even then they usually ignore the players and go off and do their own thing whether the players approve of it or not.

Isn't it best to be organized from the stand point of pleasing the customers?
If a majority of the customers want something done/fixed, it would be a good idea to please them.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

You see, this is where our thoughts on how things should be done clash. I'm not going to continue this any further because it will be pointless. I feel larger problems should be tackled first and the smaller ones should be ironed out later, you feel that the staff should work their way up by starting with the minute issues to begin with and deal with the larger scale problems later.

Not to be rude, but you can do more than one thing at a time. You don't have to focus on one particular issue. It might help to have a controlled central focus, but if you can more quickly complete the tasks at hand while splitting your attention, why not?

Originally Posted by Crono

So whats wrong with putting 5 minutes aside to fix such a small thing again?
Ok have fun, because large scale changes will never occur on Zone.

Changes can happen in all scales and all sizes. The only thing that stops change is pessimism, that which you and huwa have exhibited.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

As I said before, the Zone staff aren't that organised and will just fix what the players are giving stick to. If the staff were like a well oiled machine then I'd have no problem in one of them popping online, doing what they need to do for a few minutes and then logging off again or continuing work on something more significant.

Ugh, as I said before, the hideous recolored GW map, the 9 year old staff members and the extremely unbalanced weapons. Wouldn't you rather have one of those fixed first before a little graphical issue being addressed?

Fixing what the customers want fixed is usually a good strategy, if you didn't fix it so it couldn't happen. Fixing anything, if it is even broken to begin with, is a better course of action that sitting here saying if you think that large scale or small scale issues should be fixed first.

I would rather see it all fixed.

Originally Posted by Crono

For the record such a simple fix will probably be done by Stefan himself so don't worry about their staff team.

Stefan will fix it most likely, if anyone does. He is the only one with the rights to fix it.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

This therefore proves my point that the staff will only fix certain issues which get a lot of stick from the players. If the issues was brought up past a staff member through a quick PM by a player it would probably be ignored or forgotten about.

Staff don't only fix certain issues which get a lot of stick from the players (Customers) they fix problems that they are aware of and feel need fixing.

Time is time.

Crono and Huwa:
You are arguing about what came first, the chicken or the egg. Sure one of them had to come first, but they are both still here so what point is there in arguing about it? As long as the changes happen, which hopefully they will, there isn't any point arguing about what should be fixed first.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Changes can happen in all scales and all sizes. The only thing that stops change is pessimism, that which you and huwa have exhibited.

Haha, keep dreaming.

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Crono and Huwa:
You are arguing about what came first, the chicken or the egg. Sure one of them had to come first, but they are both still here so what point is there in arguing about it?

Supernanny:
It ended a while ago. And the "chicken or the egg" example was an awful choice.

[doyouskate]

Damn you guys type A LOT. I could never type that much

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Crono and Huwa:
You are arguing about what came first, the chicken or the egg. Sure one of them had to come first, but they are both still here so what point is there in arguing about it? As long as the changes happen, which hopefully they will, there isn't any point arguing about what should be fixed first.

Uh dude, Crono and I just finished our discussion and have already established that our two opinions differ drastically, mainly due to the fact we were coming from different standpoints.

I don't want to continue the discussion any further, it's becoming tiresome. I want something new to argue about! >:]

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Uh dude, Crono and I just finished our discussion and have already established that our two opinions differ drastically, mainly due to the fact we were coming from different standpoints.

Yea, in an ideal situation I would agree with you anyway.

[seanthien]

JP doesn't kill? I could of sworn around when proxy was inf with the jetpack, I was killing by a jetpack before. >.>
-Flashback-
''hey, person''
''hi''-flys over sean with jetpack-
-Sean(Sweep Fleet) was killed by (i 4getwho) with gasoline(?I forget)-

[Elizabeth]

"OH NUB WITH NO JET PAC KILLS CRY MORE"
"k *ctrl+t*"

[IXIs_Last_Stand]

This thread is pointless, everyone has the 0 jetpack kills, I don't see them complaining.

[IXIs_Last_Stand]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

yeah, i dont see them conplaining either.

You know what I meant..

[pooper200000]

Seeing as this thread turned into flame wars and spam, closed.