Mouse to shoot

UnknownMasterMind · #1 10-28-2007, 02:45 AM

I am making a petition to abolish the mouse to shoot. (Trying to go at it in a way that shows the mass public is agianst it.)

Names of people in favor of abolishment:
-Format: <Nickname>:<Account>

+Sayian Oozaru : SayianOozaru
+Puppy : DeathOfRa
+Tro Xanadu : Stoned4Life
+Desear : UnknownMasterMind
+[]D.[].[]V[].[]D : JOK3RZLEADER
+Huwajux : Huwajux(?, I don't know if he is on our side, I think he is.)
+Icy : Rescate
+Zeru : darksage15
+Kds : Dante55555
+Shadow : IXIs_Last_Stand
+TheIgg : TheIgg
+Fire Man : Anthonyc2
+Chipsta : Guest
+The Clash/Darth haha : yo_momma516
+Phoenix : Lord_Conorr
+Iki : ilovegirlzz
+reaper246 : 0
+Dis0bey : Blindedjester
+Typhoon Xhen : KHooten
+Vincent Xanadu : Deanjaloe_P2P
+Sticky z.z : NorthAngel
+Recruit Scy : popeye_12
+Hayden : Darkmaster
+Shade : thenewgrimangels
+Hype Cypher : Xterminator
+unknown : drgondude
+evan57 : evan57
+Az : xAzerothx
+Kia : Kia345
+Magadal : Crow

P.S.
This is for Stefan or Dan to see, If either of you see this thread, please tell me how many people need to agree to abolish it.

UnknownMasterMind · #2 10-28-2007, 04:17 AM

Double Post, First post is for petitions. I have collected 30 names/signatures of people who want mouse click to shoot, abolished (destroyed), most are p2ps, and their are a few trials (suprised me since trials use it mostly). Since, the population fo Zone is usually at 40 througout the day, this is more than half of the players wanting it gone, so I would like to ask that action be taken.

P.S.
Please do not ignore this thread, as this is the voice of the people. If half the community of a town were to say no to something, then they would win, as it should be in the game. Listen to the voice of the players.

xAzerothx · #3 10-28-2007, 04:19 AM

Put my name down too.

Switch · #4 10-28-2007, 04:59 AM

I don't like how it's set up, but I have a way to keep it yet make it better.

Switch · #5 10-28-2007, 05:02 AM

I know many people just want it -BAM!- gone. But I have a way to keep it and have it fairer.

Simply put: It only works the direction your facing. You face up and you can only have bullets go in that direction (<^, ^, ^>); you face right and you can only have bullets go in that direction (^>, >, v>); etc.

UnknownMasterMind · #6 10-28-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Switch

I know many people just want it -BAM!- gone. But I have a way to keep it and have it fairer.

Simply put: It only works the direction your facing. You face up and you can only have bullets go in that direction (<^, ^, ^>); you face right and you can only have bullets go in that direction (^>, >, v>); etc.

Thought of that but they can still shoot Diagonally with ease while the other player has to use the arrows, and go diagonally. But based off your idea why not just make it an alternate to S and D, make it the same they shoot in the direction they face it would be S and D just mouse instead of having to use the keyboard.

But still in any case, this would be alot better than what it is right now.

kia345 · #7 10-28-2007, 06:31 AM

Getting rid of a little piece of Zone is the first step to getting rid of the whole thing, sign me up.

Crow · #8 10-28-2007, 12:03 PM

Magadal:Crow

Get me in.

blazeingonix · #9 10-28-2007, 01:22 PM

What about: Millenium : blazeingonix

Admins · #10 10-28-2007, 01:24 PM

Mouse shoot is made to make it easier for new people, using the ASD stuff can be weird for new people really. If there are things about the mouse stuff that are unfair then report them, instead of whining.

Crow · #11 10-28-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

instead of whining.

Why dont you try to respect us, or read our threads.

UnknownMasterMind · #12 10-28-2007, 02:21 PM

I think the one way to make it fair is just make mouse like S, and D, just you click instead of pressing the keys, no aiming is what I am sayin. The aiming is unfair in a sense that is makes people who use the old method of fighting doomed to die. I am not trying to do this because of sheer hate of it, I want Zone to keep its old fighting styles, because mouse to shoot is making alot of people upset. If you could do this Stefan, we would be highly gratefull.

P.S.
I did not mean to sound like I was whining, I was trying to get enough Zonians together to show that the community can change things if enough of them agree on it. I wanted people to know, that although they are just players they are the people, without players the Admin have no one to make things for, as the players have nothing to play.

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Also, question is Dan suppose to be the voice of the people, like as in a reprsentitive of what the people want? If we tell him he will run it by you?

pooper200000 · #13 10-28-2007, 03:09 PM

Ok. I am not whining but I am making a logical point. Well I know on zone logic isn't really needed anyway but... when a player is face down so you see there whole face and they want to turn diaganol if they use the mouse they just FLIP they don't turn sideways for an instant they just flip. Now for those of us that use keys we actually have to turn for a split second before we are facing up. Thats one of the big problems with the mouse shooting. Desear can explain this its rather challenging to explain it.

UnknownMasterMind · #14 10-28-2007, 03:45 PM

I just found out this can solve everything, just make sure they can not use the extra angles of fire to make it fair to arrow players. If you use the mouse you have 4 directions of fire that you can not get with using arrow keys.

The videos will be attached shortly, I need to find out how to compress them...

Tracker180 · #15 10-28-2007, 03:50 PM

usually, I'd agree, but most of us just want it to go away because we keep getting owned by it

Tracker180 · #16 10-28-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind

The videos will be attached shortly, I need to find out how to compress them...

sorry double post, you get to pick if you want the video made compressed or not in the capture options in F3

Crow · #17 10-28-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180

usually, I'd agree, but most of us just want it to go away because we keep getting owned by it

Keyboard users have a disadvantage. That needs to be fixed, eh.

I just notice I got mine the wrong way, should be Crow : Magadal, but who cares ;P

UnknownMasterMind · #18 10-28-2007, 04:28 PM

Ok, I will post the video and also SN told me that it was unfair and I agree that they can turn completley around in a second to shoot you, this is really a problem in close range.

Dante_P2P · #19 10-28-2007, 04:54 PM

... So what your telling me is that you can turn around in a second? I think i can pull that off with the keyboard....

Crow · #20 10-28-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante_P2P

... So what your telling me is that you can turn around in a second? I think i can pull that off with the keyboard....

He probably wants to say instantly :<

pooper200000 · #21 10-28-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

He probably wants to say instantly :<

yes that is what he meant

Switch · #22 10-28-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

Mouse shoot is made to make it easier for new people, using the ASD stuff can be weird for new people really. If there are things about the mouse stuff that are unfair then report them, instead of whining.

I actually came up with an idea for this is you saw my thread..

Switch · #23 10-28-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind

Thought of that but they can still shoot Diagonally with ease while the other player has to use the arrows, and go diagonally. But based off your idea why not just make it an alternate to S and D, make it the same they shoot in the direction they face it would be S and D just mouse instead of having to use the keyboard.

Yeah I like that idea.

Use the keyboard but mouse to shoots as if it were s (left click) and d (right click), right? Would have to make that true for jetpack, since Stefan didn't add it to that xD

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But still in any case, this would be alot better than what it is right now.

Thanks

Dante55555 · #24 10-28-2007, 08:56 PM

Ok, I recently fought a guy using a handgun and mouseclick. I owned the kid the other day no problem. He whooped my *** today. Unbelievable. I had to actually pull out the stops to kill him and even then just barely. The kid was a complete noob the other day and now he's using the handgun better than Muroku ever did. Unreal. Handgun alone is lame enough, add mouseclick and anyone with a brainstem becomes a nearly unstoppable force.

Achtung · #25 10-29-2007, 07:18 AM

You can add me to that list

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Karri: Achtung

UnknownMasterMind · #26 10-30-2007, 12:07 AM

Ok, anyway, I just want to ask you make it an alternate way of pushing S and D, no aiming feature just shooting.

Dante_P2P · #27 10-30-2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind

Ok, anyway, I just want to ask you make it an alternate way of pushing S and D, no aiming feature just shooting.

WITH MY MAGIC POWERS! I DEMAND THIS TO HAPPEN! Well, sorry no D for you, you have to press it but S i changed to space bar! haha! But you can still use S haha!

Angel_Light · #28 10-30-2007, 12:50 AM

I have to play the devil's advocate on this one. Keep the mouse shoot.

kia345 · #29 10-30-2007, 01:00 AM

Before Zone took a little bit of skill + timing to win. Now it takes nothing at all to land a shot. At least kill off the fact you aim with the mouse.

Frieza · #30 11-03-2007, 03:32 AM

add me up desear,

mouse to shoot is absolutely disgusting, its like the skill it takes to aim in zone...eradicated. so no matter how much skill u have aqquired, some1 can just log on and negate it with there 12d auto aiming mouse click. its made dodging impossible, and aiming is TOO easy...it needs eradicating, its destroyed zone.

Nefir · #31 11-03-2007, 03:36 AM

Add me up too I can't stand someone who showoff his "skills" for mouse shooting x.X Pretty unfair and does not need any skills to use too

Frieza · #32 11-03-2007, 03:38 AM

it has also added an extra dimension to shooting, thats what really affects me

UnknownMasterMind · #33 11-03-2007, 03:41 AM

I am trying to get this somwhere but so far, Dan is busy, and Stefan doesn't want to get rid of it but change it to make it fair. I don't know how to solve the problem, other than simply asking them to make it an alternate way to use S and D, just like the keyboard.

Knight · #34 11-03-2007, 03:27 PM

I doubt anything will be done, people are already used to it and it is optional. I am just saying :o I am not with or against because I use when I get lamed. Yesterday I logged on and was in Base 1 next to sweep and they started laming so I did it and Dante was like "ZOMG CLICKER! HUNTED~" so I kind of think you should just get over it...

Crono · #35 11-03-2007, 03:30 PM

I would call mouse shooting lame and all but the fact that everyone is able to use it would slap me back in the face...

Switch · #36 11-03-2007, 03:32 PM

I'll try to tell Stefan (or Dan, he's my ho

) what you're saying Des.

Knight · #37 11-04-2007, 06:03 AM

So what? Then why don't you click to...? Either do it or not, I am tired of people crying over the fact that people have the freedom to click. Geez this isn't a dictatorship just ****.

Dante55555 · #38 11-04-2007, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight

I doubt anything will be done, people are already used to it and it is optional. I am just saying :o I am not with or against because I use when I get lamed. Yesterday I logged on and was in Base 1 next to sweep and they started laming so I did it and Dante was like "ZOMG CLICKER! HUNTED~" so I kind of think you should just get over it...

Oh? I don't really care about mouseclicking so much anymore. I found a strategy to counter it. And I HIGHLY doubt I'd scream hunted at you. I very rarely hunt anyone because it takes effort and I don't think something so trivial requires so much effort. Or maybe I'm lazy, one of the two.

Knight · #39 11-04-2007, 07:04 AM

I'm talking about everyone z_z

seanthien · #40 11-07-2007, 07:06 PM

Decides to post in here. Seeing how lame mouse shooting realy is. Has anything been done about it yet? Jesus.

Zone is 2d, i don't see why you would add mouse shooting..Theres a huge disadvantage.