Bmode

[nullify]

I vote bmode for everyone. If that's not feasible; make it so anyone over level 30 or so is automatically put into bmode. I mean honestly, what's the POINT of pvp when there are no players to fight/kill.

Also, change the arena back to how it was.

[Ravenblade1979]

1) Since this is technically supposed to be a RP server they want people to have a choice wether they go bmode or not. And frankly there are too many lamers to have people in bmode. You would have more people quitting then playing.

2) What do you mean change the arena back?? like which one?

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

What do you mean change the arena back?? like which one?

He means the old system when speed, resists wc and ac work.

[Mousymee]

There's some of us that'd help people from lamers.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

GK is all about the rp

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Oh splendid idea.. lets just see how long it takes for the rest of the actual players (Not pkers) to actually leave and quit graal all together.

How dumb are you? I vote someone delete the thread before someone gets hurt.

[bioboi]

Lets Go Hit Each Other With Our Words!

[lordbosh]

Delete Rp, make GK a pking server and introduce galats as a main way to get rare event items.

And I will play again then.

[ReBorn_Spirit]

Originally Posted by lordbosh

Delete Rp, make GK a pking server and introduce galats as a main way to get rare event items.

And I will play again then.

You'll be the only one on, maybe john to duel every 48 hours.

[jaws908]

Dayaa you honestly anger me sometimes. You're not god, I disagree with about 85% of your ideas. Lets face it PKing is just about all thats left, alot of people like PKing, Dayaa isn't much of a person so it doesn't count.

In any case, at least make it possible for people to become B mode without a kingdom, put a bell in bomboria that requires you to WAIT an hour before ringing it(to change in and out of b mode).

Leave sparring system alone, so people cant complain about "no way to fairly duel" and such

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by bioboi

Lets Go Hit Each Other With Our Words!

you fail @ caps

[Googi]

Originally Posted by jaws908

alot of people like PKing

Which is why most of the server uses Pmode.

Originally Posted by jaws908

In any case, at least make it possible for people to become B mode without a kingdom

Yes.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

Which is why most of the server uses Pmode.

I like PKing and I stay in Pmode. Why? Because theres too many people with high WC/AC.

[kenyonandelliot]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Because theres too many people with high WC/AC.

Thats why I don't like it.. Not fun knowing they'll be able to take good shots and you can't do nothing.

[CABAL49]

Be nice if we could do the PvP from Diablo, you could only become to people who were near your level.

[lordbosh]

If you sell the items for galats, cyberjourers makes a profit while people can get rows and all that other fun junk and EVERYONE CAN PK EVENLY.

You can usd roe's, be a mage, you can get rows and be a fighter, whatever you want.

And instead of people like me making 1000$ a year on this server the company can make the profit.

You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. I rp and pk, its something that was intended when they made this game. Stop being pansies and learn 2 play already.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I like PKing and I stay in Pmode. Why? Because theres too many people with high WC/AC.

You like PKing on other servers.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

You like PKing on other servers.

No I like killing players on GK, I just don't do it because there's too many people with insane WC/AC.

When you said "Which is why most of the server uses Pmode.", I can only assume you're saying that people use Pmode because they don't like PKing. In reality, I'm sure many (such as myself) like PKing but just don't do it because of the said "insane WC/AC" people.

[CABAL49]

People stay in Pmode because they don't like getting lamed.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

When you said "Which is why most of the server uses Pmode.", I can only assume you're saying that people use Pmode because they don't like PKing. In reality, I'm sure many (such as myself) like PKing but just don't do it because of the said "insane WC/AC" people.

They don't like PKing on Graal Kingdoms because of the system GK uses, which means they don't like PKing on Graal Kingdoms.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

They don't like PKing on Graal Kingdoms because of the system GK uses, which means they don't like PKing on Graal Kingdoms.

No, they like killing players (PKing) but don't actually do it because of the system GK uses.

For example, person goes in bmode => kills nublets and such => goes back to pmode and never changes back because of the system. They like PKing on GK, just don't want to actually do it.

[Ravenblade1979]

it don't matter what you suggest gerami..people want others in bmode so they can lame them more then they can now.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

No, they like killing players (PKing) but don't actually do it because of the system GK uses.

This is saying that they would like PKing on GK if some things were changed, which is different from them actually liking it. I'm not even sure that with a more equal battling system people would like PKing since even back on 2K1 most people avoided PKing.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

it don't matter what you suggest gerami..people want others in bmode so they can lame them more then they can now.

o_o huh? I'm not even discussing that, I'm just pointing out that Googi is saying people stay in Pmode because they don't like PKing.

Originally Posted by Googi

This is saying that they would like PKing on GK if some things were changed, which is different from them actually liking it. I'm not even sure that with a more equal battling system people would like PKing since even back on 2K1 most people avoided PKing.

I'm taking the term "PKing" to literally mean killing players, which they probably do like. They just don't do it. For example I like football, but I don't actually play it. My point is, people don't stay in Pmode because they don't like killing players, they do it because they don't want to get lamed.

[MajinDragon]

Bmode all the way. I mean, sure there are lamers now, but once people have been in bmode for long enough, people will kinda get bored of pking newbs so players won't leave, and besides, all of them just idle in trade anyway so they are hardly at risk.

Oh and about the rp thing... How rp based is people having some sort of godly protection that goes away and comes back by ringing a bell... Being able to choose who to kill and when to kill would be rping imo. Screw the peace, it's boring as hell...

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

it don't matter what you suggest gerami..people want others in bmode so they can lame them more then they can now.

Sure we will lame at first, mainly due to our hunger for pking on gk, never being satisfied. I'm sure that after about... 2-3 weeks the current higher level players will not see any point in pking a random newbie at any moment.
Hmm... Bounty hunting could be done :o

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by lordbosh

If you sell the items for galats, cyberjourers makes a profit while people can get rows and all that other fun junk and EVERYONE CAN PK EVENLY.

You can usd roe's, be a mage, you can get rows and be a fighter, whatever you want.

And instead of people like me making 1000$ a year on this server the company can make the profit.

Actually that was an idea I have heard before, can't remember who said it, but to low the Kingdoms subscription price and to add buyable items through the Graal store.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm taking the term "PKing" to literally mean killing players

Despite this being the definition that the word itself would suggest, it's different from the definition commonly used by the players of Graal (sparring is viewed as not being PKing, for example).

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

Despite this being the definition that the word itself would suggest, it's different from the definition commonly used by the players of Graal (sparring is viewed as not being PKing, for example).

Awesome?

[Ravenblade1979]

The staff already spoke on this so I wish that this old argument would die. They want people to have a choice to be pk or non-pk. If you take away that right you will bring back oldbies sure but then you doom the server to losing any business it could do. Not to mention that you may as well put it down to classic after that with all the other pking servers.

Now can we stop this discussion??

[lardy227]

if you wanna pk just go on zodiac or era z.z

[kenyonandelliot]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm taking the term "PKing" to literally mean killing players, which they probably do like. They just don't do it. For example I like football, but I don't actually play it. My point is, people don't stay in Pmode because they don't like killing players, they do it because they don't want to get lamed.

So basically, you like to be able to kill people and if you do kill them it would most likely be possible because the unsuspecting person doesn't have a clue what they are doing or either suck. However, when the tables change and they get the upperhand because they are good you decide to cower away into peace mode because you don't like being killed back.

[ViperZakuto]

yeah this idea is great... people just don't get tired of pking... lok at bosh he has been here for how long. I remember quite a few people who lame people just to get there money and diamonds. yeah put everybody in bmode so the rich people can steal from the poor much easier.

GREAT IDEA(sarcasm)

[Ravenblade1979]

woo sarcasm at its finest

[Crono]

Originally Posted by kenyonandelliot

So basically, you like to be able to kill people and if you do kill them it would most likely be possible because the unsuspecting person doesn't have a clue what they are doing or either suck. However, when the tables change and they get the upperhand because they are good you decide to cower away into peace mode because you don't like being killed back.

don't make me lift my hand and slap you

[Ravenblade1979]

I wish these topics would be closed. They are leaving it the choice of the players. End of discussion. Maybe if the oldbies came back there would be more people to pk. Don't blame the newer players.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

I wish these topics would be closed.

Why? What problem are they causing?

[Ravenblade1979]

They are just taking up space and the staff have already answered another topic about this. In fact I am going to hunt it down to leave a link on this one.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Googi

Why? What problem are they causing?

Just what I was thinking.

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

They are just taking up space and the staff have already answered another topic about this. In fact I am going to hunt it down to leave a link on this one.

Because forums totally shouldn't have threads where people have varying opinions right?

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

They are just taking up space

Because if there's one thing the forums are running out of, it's space.