Developer Gold switch finished

Admins · #1 09-06-2007, 03:57 PM

We have switched all graal.net playerworlds to the new Developer Gold system:

- Renting a server is as easy as upgrading an account - just go on the website and buy a Developer Gold subscription: http://www.graalonline.com/playerworlds/stores/upgrade
- Instead of just using PayPal, you can now also use PayByCash which offers more payment methods.
- Same price as before
- The servers are bound to the owners account. You don't have a separate admin-account, but the owner account gets full access.
- You see the remaining subscription time on the serverlist.
- You see your server on the serverlist

We also want to remind you that there is now the Developer Pack available on the website - it lets you share the costs of a server between several developers. The price is basicly 1/3 of Developer Gold, and you need 3 people to create the server.

zokemon · #2 09-06-2007, 04:38 PM

How come the classic dev servers aren't classic enabled anymore?

Chompy · #3 09-06-2007, 04:54 PM

Uhm?
What if the owners account were espired before this system came out..?

dNeonb · #4 09-06-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

How come the classic dev servers aren't classic enabled anymore?

Personally I don't see why they should. If you have a classic account it says that you are allowed to get on classic servers. There is nothing mentioned about other servers. Even if a server is used to develop a classic server it still isn't the classic server you got your classic subscription for.
In my opinion it's just fair that they can't get on these because these are just usual playerworlds you would need playerworlds gold subscription for. Somewhere needs to be a limit to this. If they grant more and more access to the classic accounts the playerworld gold subscription will become useless

Admins · #5 09-06-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

How come the classic dev servers aren't classic enabled anymore?

It should work fine, I fixed that this morning.

Inverness · #6 09-07-2007, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

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Dev servers for Classic servers should be in Classic access mode so the staff can actually get on and work if they don't have upgraded account.

Ziro_of_the_Turks · #7 09-07-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness

Dev servers for Classic servers should be in Classic access mode so the staff can actually get on and work if they don't have upgraded account.

staff (at least some or enough of them) should have upgraded accounts

what if everyone on the classic tab didnt pay for graal? pay once, never pay again, be staff....

besides, playerworlds have better management than the gold servers do...
maybe "gold" should be free, and "classic" should cost money since it's more worth it? x.x

zokemon · #8 09-07-2007, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

staff (at least some or enough of them) should have upgraded accounts

what if everyone on the classic tab didnt pay for graal? pay once, never pay again, be staff....

besides, playerworlds have better management than the gold servers do...
maybe "gold" should be free, and "classic" should cost money since it's more worth it? x.x

They do? lol.
And you can't pay once for Graal any more unless you did prior. I se no reason why they should change an old policy since it has no effect on new players anyways which the whole Dev gold thing is aimed towards: New people.

EDIT:
Zodiac Dev still says I need Gold to get on RC.

EDIT 2:
Seems I can go on client just fine without having observer mode but RC still says I need gold.

Oh and this is AWESOME since I don't get trial mode on my own server with my account anymore! ^_^
Thank you! <3

Horrified · #9 09-07-2007, 03:43 AM

@ Zero: Admin accounts were abused. Everyone would give it to a friend who ran out of gold; it was killing Graal, not to mention the security risk. And unless you're unemployed, Zero, I'm sure it's no hassle to upgrade for 24 USD at most, seeing as you bought a server for more then 2x that much.

This is nice that I don't need to go to graal.net to see how much longer I got left, but question: when your server goes hosted, does it go out of the "Special" bar or is there an option or what?

zokemon · #10 09-07-2007, 04:10 AM

@ Horrified: I was saying this is a good thing o_o. I hated having to use my admin account just to go on my server which often led to me going only on my server or not going on my server at all (to go on other servers). I really hated having to look up my passwords.

Admins · #11 09-07-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Horrified

when your server goes hosted, does it go out of the "Special" bar or is there an option or what?

If it's "hosted" then it will be appear on the hosted tab only

Crono · #12 09-07-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

It should work fine, I fixed that this morning.

Thanks, glad to see you're not trying to enforce gold on classic servers...the ones keeping graal alive.

dNeonb · #13 09-07-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Thanks, glad to see you're not trying to enforce gold on classic servers...the ones keeping graal alive.

A development of a classic server isn't a classic server in my opinion. I don't see it in the serverlist listed as classic server! Does someone else?

Crono · #14 09-07-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

A development of a classic server isn't a classic server in my opinion. I don't see it in the serverlist listed as classic server! Does someone else?

Why not give classic servers a server to test things out? Should they instead upload buggy scripts on the playerworld itself? Classic servers have staff which mostly have classic accounts. Why would you want to cripple the development of public servers?

dNeonb · #15 09-07-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Why not give classic servers a server to test things out? Should they instead upload buggy scripts on the playerworld itself?

You came just up with this, noone else did say something about that.

It was just about dev servers of classic server are now a classic server or not. So do you see it listed as classic or not. This was my statement to say it is no classic server.
Don't come up with things and turn it like I said they shouldn't have dev servers..

Crono · #16 09-07-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

You came just up with this, noone else did say something about that.

It was just about dev servers of classic server are now a classic server or not. So do you see it listed as classic or not. This was my statement to say it is no classic server.
Don't come up with things and turn it like I said they shouldn't have dev servers..

You will hinder development and force the NAT's to upload their buggy scripts to the public server because they will most likely only have classic accounts (since they are working on a classic server afterall). It makes sense for a classic server to have a classic dev server, whether it's on the classic list or not.

Twinny · #17 09-07-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

You will hinder development and force the NAT's to upload their buggy scripts to the public server because they will most likely only have classic accounts (since they are working on a classic server afterall). It makes sense for a classic server to have a classic dev server, whether it's on the classic list or not.

Here here! Classic Dev servers allow us to make mistakes without screwing over all the players

zokemon · #18 09-07-2007, 09:36 PM

Development should never take place on a public server in an ideal situation.

dNeonb · #19 09-07-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Development should never take place on a public server in an ideal situation.

Right, noone said it should.