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Lugie · #1 07-09-2001, 06:27 AM

I sold out on Mafukies server. Nothing personal. I had an account there, I gave Stefan all of the information for my account. Now, if anybody was banned for being on there when Stefan got on it, I didn't want for that to happen at all, because a lot of them are friends, and please unban those people if that was the reason. A lot of those people payed for Graal anyways.

When this project first got started I was told that only 4-5 people could know so we could just use it for sparring and such, but now it is out of hand so I gave Stefan everything simply because i didn't like what was happening.

I have been called a brown-noser already, but I guess you can't always make everybody happy. Forgive me if I hurt you in any way through doing this.

DuckyJ · #2 07-09-2001, 06:29 AM

Hey Im in worse trouble than you LoL

Cloud_X · #3 07-09-2001, 06:29 AM

I must confess to something sorta like that but, not that bad. I went on as unixmad name and on toalls I was making fun of him so people with toalls on thought it was a joke. Then via PM I got around 6-7 people to stop using the server telling them I was banning thier g2k1 account. Sorry to all that I tricked but, I bet you are thanking me now.

Gameo · #4 07-09-2001, 09:05 AM

TrueHeaT: you did the right thing anyway
it's kind of silly for them to just steal what stefan made and use it for themselves to try to take away stefan's business as if stefan or unixmad owed them something

Gameo · #5 07-09-2001, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: you did the right thing anyway
it's kind of silly for them to just steal what stefan made and use it for themselves to try to take away stefan's business as if stefan or unixmad owed them something

you said to shut up about it, then you say something else about it
it's not like you to contradict yourself like that

Merlin · #6 07-09-2001, 09:08 AM

trueheat stop being a hyipocrite

Gameo · #7 07-09-2001, 09:15 AM

TrueHeaT: OK. I'm a hypocrite and I guess I'm not on your side.

Merlin · #8 07-09-2001, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: OK. I'm a hypocrite and I guess I'm not on your side.

what does that mean?

Gameo · #9 07-09-2001, 09:20 AM

TrueHeaT:
Well you all seem to be supporting Mafukie and I am not.
That means I'm not on your side. I'm a hypocrite because I was just earlier talking about how both sides were wrong.

Merlin · #10 07-09-2001, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT:
Well you all seem to be supporting Mafukie and I am not.
That means I'm not on your side. I'm a hypocrite because I was just earlier talking about how both sides were wrong.

no no no thats not why i am calling you a hypocrite, read pm.

Lugie · #11 07-09-2001, 09:25 AM

i feel i did the right thing too, but a lot of people hate me for it too.

Cloud_X · #12 07-09-2001, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Lugie
i feel i did the right thing too, but a lot of people hate me for it too.

Im mad because i only was on for a few mins and wasnt going to really be an active player but im not mad at you.

Gameo · #13 07-09-2001, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by Lugie
i feel i did the right thing too, but a lot of people hate me for it too.

you may have done the right thing for graal, but you betrayed your friends in the process.
betraying your friends is wrong. your friends should come before graal.

Lugie · #14 07-09-2001, 09:29 AM

yes, betraying friends is wrong and friends should go before graal, but what if i made those friends through graal...?

Gameo · #15 07-09-2001, 09:30 AM

TrueHeaT: They shouldn't care what he does regarding Graal. See, friends come before Graal. Laff.

Gameo · #16 07-09-2001, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by Lugie
yes, betraying friends is wrong and friends should go before graal, but what if i made those friends through graal...?

who cares where you made them.
they are your friends no matter where you made them.

i would never betray my friends for a stupid game.

Gameo · #17 07-09-2001, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: They shouldn't care what he does regarding Graal. See, friends come before Graal. Laff.

Gameo · #18 07-09-2001, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: They shouldn't care what he does regarding Graal. See, friends come before Graal. Laff.

he betrayed their trust.

Gameo · #19 07-09-2001, 09:33 AM

TrueHeaT:
In Graal. If friends come before Graal then his friends should not care what happens in Graal. Laff.

Gameo · #20 07-09-2001, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT:
In Graal. If friends come before Graal then his friends should not care what happens in Graal. Laff.

you're not making sense =\
it doesn't matter where it happens.
it's the fact that he betrayed their trust.

Gameo · #21 07-09-2001, 09:36 AM

TrueHeaT:
Don't you think they betrayed his trust by trying to destroy Graal and releasing that thing in the first place?

Cloud_X · #22 07-09-2001, 09:37 AM

I dont care what he did. I guess we deserve it even if we were just looking. I mean atleast we were not banned. (we should have been)

Gameo · #23 07-09-2001, 09:38 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT:
Don't you think they betrayed his trust by trying to destroy Graal and releasing that thing in the first place?

no
not at all

they're not destroying graal by accessing the server.

you were on the server saying how great it was (according to merlin). that means you're guilty of trying to destroy graal.

oh well, have to run

Gameo · #24 07-09-2001, 09:41 AM

TrueHeaT: I thought the levels were great, yes. They certainly were. That has nothing to do with it though.

Archeon · #25 07-09-2001, 09:45 AM

BACK STAB

Gameo · #26 07-09-2001, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT: I thought the levels were great, yes. They certainly were. That has nothing to do with it though.

you were on the server
that means you're one of the people who are destroying graal.

that's basically what you're saying with his friends being on the server.

Lugie · #27 07-09-2001, 09:50 AM

Archeon · #28 07-09-2001, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Lugie

what you did is stupid

and now no one wants to talk to you again.

Jinn said he might talk to you, if you buy him his own account..but he said might..

Lugie · #29 07-09-2001, 09:54 AM

if i could get back on the friggin server to talk to them they probably wouldnt be THAT pissed at me.

Archeon · #30 07-09-2001, 09:55 AM

Last warning to Archeon for posting harrassement

View GraalOnline Profile · #31 07-09-2001, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Archeon

Lugie, please leave.

Jinn, please stay out of it.

Gameo · #32 07-09-2001, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

you were on the server
that means you're one of the people who are destroying graal.

that's basically what you're saying with his friends being on the server.

Are you saying you actually agree what with Mafukie is doing? So what if I was on the server for a little bit, of course I was curious. I didn't even register with my name or use TrueHeaT as my name in-game.

Hulk Hogan · #33 07-09-2001, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Lugie
i feel i did the right thing too, but a lot of people hate me for it too.

I dont.

Gameo · #34 07-09-2001, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

Are you saying you actually agree what with Mafukie is doing? So what if I was on the server for a little bit, of course I was curious. I didn't even register with my name or use TrueHeaT as my name in-game.

i agree with what he's doing.
so, you were still on it.

Gameo · #35 07-09-2001, 10:22 AM

TrueHeaT:
So?
Do you really want unixmad and stefan to potentially go out of business and be ruined and have Graal ruined by greedy thieves?

Gameo · #36 07-09-2001, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
TrueHeaT:
So?
Do you really want unixmad and stefan to potentially go out of business and be ruined and have Graal ruined by greedy thieves?

i feel bad for stefan, but i could careless about unixmad.
making up garbage about credit card fraud so he could ban mafukie.

if unixmad even cared about mafukie was doing he atleast would have talked to him for 5 minutes about it.

Lugie · #37 07-09-2001, 10:46 AM

im trying to set this straight. i dont particually like unixmad. what i did was for stefan's sake. he can lose thousands and thousands of dollars from this, while they (my friends) only lose a few dollars. i had NO CLUE they were going to get banned for just PLAYING the server, i really liked the server too, but stefan put SO much into this game and this is what he gets. unixmad was wrong, and should unban Mafukie. everybody who was banned for the whole 1.39 should be unbanned. that is the PERFECT solution!

General · #38 07-09-2001, 12:21 PM

Marle, your title hurts my feelings....

G_yoshi · #39 07-09-2001, 12:33 PM

What's wrong is wrong. They completely disobeyed rules set by GraalOnline therefore are at the mercy of GraalOnline.

Pheh, I am no better...I have many roms on my HD

But I think what Lugie did was right and what Stefan did was understandable.

Lycia · #40 07-09-2001, 12:42 PM

I'm not sure about my stance on the entire Gserver v1.39 deal.

I don't think Mafukie should've done it. It was wrong for him to do that without permission from Stefan or unixmad. Stefan's put many thousands of hours of work into his game, and he deserves to have it protected, so, yes, I do believe he should be punished accordingly. He has been banned.

On another note, Stefan and unixmad really need to have more confidence in their game for it to succeed. If they are afraid of this one thing rendering them bankrupt, then this should tell you folks something about the current state of the game.

Stefan and unixmad need to do the behind the scenes stuff like programming, finances and leave the front stuff to a few adults who have the capacity to deal with the public and can act professionally on Stefan's and unixmad's behalf.

Stefan and unixmad are trying to do both back and front stuff, and its wearing them down and making their attentions unfocused, and its making this game unsuccessful.

I have heaps of ideas, but, unixmad seems to hate me now.