Most important skill

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Codein

I get what you mean about imagination...

However, you're missing out big style on the importance of level design. Secret of Mana wasn't successful just for it's systems alone. It had great level design and graphics.

Oh, I never said that level design and graphics don't require imagination, in fact I agree they require a great deal of imagination. I'm just saying that high quality levels of scripting is based off of imagination rather then just simple knowledge.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Magic Bullet

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Gerami

You're acting as if it absolutely is and making really retarded reasons too.

Uh not really, each have their own opinion, this poll just shows that most people's opinion is that NAT is the most important skill. It seemed to me you had a problem with people's opinion not matching your own so you tried to say they voted in error.

This poll isn't about what what actually is the most important, and if I gave you the impression that I thought so then I apologize.

I believe we're confusing our intentions. Here is mine: The majority of the community hold the opinion that the NAT is the most important group required for a playerworld because of their purpose.

Though of course that is opinion not fact.

[Codein]

Originally Posted by zokemon

Oh, I never said that level design and graphics don't require imagination, in fact I agree they require a great deal of imagination. I'm just saying that high quality levels of scripting is based off of imagination rather then just simple knowledge.

I was referring to the whole "Sadly you can" because good level design is just as important as scripting. SoM was designed beautifully in all aspects. Zelda didn't have much detail but the level design was still good. Script alone can make some awesome things but to give a playerworld that real boost, level design and graphics are just as important.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Uh not really, each have their own opinion, this poll just shows that most people's opinion is that NAT is the most important skill. It seemed to me you had a problem with people's opinion not matching your own so you tried to say they voted in error.

No, never said anything like that nor did I mean to.

This poll isn't about what what actually is the most important, and if I gave you the impression that I thought so then I apologize.

I believe we're confusing our intentions. Here is mine: The majority of the community hold the opinion that the NAT is the most important group required for a playerworld because of their purpose.

Yeah.

Though of course that is opinion not fact.

Yeah...I know. You made it seem like it was a fact though. :P

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Codein

I was referring to the whole "Sadly you can" because good level design is just as important as scripting. SoM was designed beautifully in all aspects. Zelda didn't have much detail but the level design was still good. Script alone can make some awesome things but to give a playerworld that real boost, level design and graphics are just as important.

When I said "Sadly you can" I was responding to someone who had said that you can't make the classic tab unless you have all three. I was pointing out that sadly, you can make classic tab without all 3 because the current servers are living proof of that.

[DustyPorViva]

To be honest, nearly all those servers have been up there since forever(save for Era). I think the only reason they're up is because they got there before standards were really around. There is just no reason to take them down really, as Graal would only look more empty.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

To be honest, nearly all those servers have been up there since forever(save for Era). I think the only reason they're up is because they got there before standards were really around. There is just no reason to take them down really, as Graal would only look more empty.

Exactly. (You forgot Zodiac? Or maybe you were turning an intentional blind eye to it? )

[Pimmeh]

I find it a shame that we dont have some Zodiac lovers here....some people who play zodiac and have an account to register on the forums...

[Crono]

Originally Posted by zokemon

Exactly. (You forgot Zodiac? Or maybe you were turning an intentional blind eye to it? )

he said nearly...

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Gerami

he said nearly...

And he also said save for Era which shows he was making an effort to point out that Era is an exception. I was just pointing out that Zodiac is even more of an exception. But this is trivial, let's not argue about that please

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by Codein

What planet are you on? Atexia is awesome.

Anything related to graal is not awesome.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Anything related to graal is not awesome.

I wouldn't want to live in your dull world.

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by zokemon

I wouldn't want to live in your dull world.

Your life revolves around working on a graal server calm down.

[Codein]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Your life revolves around working on a graal server calm down.

And how can you make such ludicrous assumptions? It's a hobby. I enjoy it as a hobby, just like I do other **** as a hobby. I doubt his whole life revolves around Graal servers and I think you're just angry because your "OMG CS ON GRAAL" crap didn't work out =P

[Crono]

Originally Posted by zokemon

And he also said save for Era which shows he was making an effort to point out that Era is an exception. I was just pointing out that Zodiac is even more of an exception. But this is trivial, let's not argue about that please

Don't forget Zone.

I wouldn't argue with my friend Zero. :]

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Your life revolves around working on a graal server calm down.

Your tone is irritating.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Your life revolves around working on a graal server calm down.

That's why I'm a college student with a 4.0, I party almost every weekend and travel down to the city a lot to go to raves, huh?

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by Codein

And how can you make such ludicrous assumptions? It's a hobby. I enjoy it as a hobby, just like I do other **** as a hobby. I doubt his whole life revolves around Graal servers and I think you're just angry because your "OMG CS ON GRAAL" crap didn't work out =P

You can bring things up from 2 years ago? My god your brilliant.

Originally Posted by zokemon

That's why I'm a college student with a 4.0, I party almost every weekend and travel down to the city a lot to go to raves, huh?

Ecstasy is bad for you, doing drugs to have fun sounds dull to me. Also, if you say you don't do drugs at raves, I feel bad for you because your missing the whole point of a rave.

[Pimmeh]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Ecstasy is bad for you, doing drugs to have fun sounds dull to me. Also, if you say you don't do drugs at raves, I feel bad for you because your missing the whole point of a rave.

Please leave your mouth shut if you dont have anything usefull to say
You just say drugs are bad and that you feel bad for him for using it.
ANd you feel bad for him if he doesnt?
Is he retarded or is it just me?

Zero goes out and has fun. Thats all I need to know to realize he isnt a no lifer.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Ecstasy is bad for you, doing drugs to have fun sounds dull to me. Also, if you say you don't do drugs at raves, I feel bad for you because your missing the whole point of a rave.

You totally contradicted your self there... Raves are about dancing to electronica. The fact that you think they are for drugs just proves that you are very ignorant and biased. And yes, I don't do drugs at raves. The whole point of me going is because I am a dancer and I like Trance, House, Hardcore, etc. Where the hell else would you go if you had those two interests?

I don't see how you can say I'm missing the whole point of a rave if you don't even understand the point your self. Most of us real ravers hate your type who just abuse a rave just to get a high.

It's about the music.

Care to talk any more about things you know nothing about and that I do? Go make a thread in the NGRF and I'll be glad to put your idiotic accusations to rest.

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Please leave your mouth shut if you dont have anything usefull to say
You just say drugs are bad and that you feel bad for him for using it.
ANd you feel bad for him if he doesnt?
Is he retarded or is it just me?

Zero goes out and has fun. Thats all I need to know to realize he isnt a no lifer.

Leaving my mouth shut would not provide the appropriate oxygen to keep my vital organs running. You can twist words better than George Bush, in other words I don't feel sorry for him because he does drugs, but I do feel sorry for him if he goes to raves and doesn't do drugs because only nerdy people go to raves ecstasy-free.

In another words, If he was a "no lifer" he would seize to exist, thus making these posts irrelevant.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Leaving my mouth shut would not provide the appropriate oxygen to keep my vital organs running. You can twist words better than George Bush, in other words I don't feel sorry for him because he does drugs, but I do feel sorry for him if he goes to raves and doesn't do drugs because only nerdy people go to raves ecstasy-free.

In another words, If he was a "no lifer" he would seize to exist, thus making these posts irrelevant.

Please just leave Graal. We really don't need people like you who have such a disgustingly narrow-minded view of the world spreading it to others.

I'm glad that Zero doesn't do drugs because of the other retards that do it, if he did that would severely lower my opinion of him. I don't like weak-minded fools that succumb to peer-pressure.

[Inspiration]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Please just leave Graal. We really don't need people like you who have such a disgustingly narrow-minded view of the world spreading it to others.

I'm glad that Zero doesn't do drugs because of the other retards that do it, if he did that would severely lower my opinion of him. I don't like weak-minded fools that succumb to peer-pressure.

Wait, you're talking about having a narrow-minded view of the world, and then you accuse people who use drugs of being weak minded fools?

I don't see what you did there.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

Wait, you're talking about having a narrow-minded view of the world, and then you accuse people who use drugs of being weak minded fools?

I don't see what you did there.

If people do anything simply because of an addiction they're weak-minded. Drugs and Smoking being the most prominent examples of a detrimental addiction.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Leaving my mouth shut would not provide the appropriate oxygen to keep my vital organs running. You can twist words better than George Bush, in other words I don't feel sorry for him because he does drugs, but I do feel sorry for him if he goes to raves and doesn't do drugs because only nerdy people go to raves ecstasy-free.

In another words, If he was a "no lifer" he would seize to exist, thus making these posts irrelevant.

Oh SHUT UP please.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

because only nerdy people go to raves ecstasy-free.

I've been trying to think for a while what to say to this and I'm just speechless. The fact that you would think a nerd would even leave their house let alone even think of going near a rave surprises the hell out of me. Tell me, have you even been to a rave? Have you ever done any drugs? Do you your self even know the enjoyment you get from dancing?

It's pretty obvious that you think life is dull unless you take drugs because there obviously isn't anything else fun out there.

And I'm curious how you would think I take that stuff because if I did, do you think I would be able to script or program worth crap?

[Codein]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Leaving my mouth shut would not provide the appropriate oxygen to keep my vital organs running. You can twist words better than George Bush, in other words I don't feel sorry for him because he does drugs, but I do feel sorry for him if he goes to raves and doesn't do drugs because only nerdy people go to raves ecstasy-free.

In another words, If he was a "no lifer" he would seize to exist, thus making these posts irrelevant.

Being a nerd for going to a rave drug free beats being a nerd not going outside at all :P

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Inverness

If people do anything simply because of an addiction they're weak-minded. Drugs and Smoking being the most prominent examples of a detrimental addiction.

Way to prove thrash's point.

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

Please leave your mouth shut if you dont have anything usefull to say

Uh, no? He can post all he wants. If YOU got a problem with it, why don't you stop reading his posts?

[Codein]

Originally Posted by Inverness

If people do anything simply because of an addiction they're weak-minded. Drugs and Smoking being the most prominent examples of a detrimental addiction.

It's ignorance to blanket all drugs as addictive and the one relevant to this topic is most definitely not addictive.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Way to prove thrash's point.

Thrash doesn't have a point; every time he tried to make one, he destroyed it by contradicting him self.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Codein

It's ignorance to blanket all drugs as addictive and the one relevant to this topic is most definitely not addictive.

I never said all drugs were addictive, I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion. Did you choose to assume that I meant all drugs just so you could have a reason to bash me?

Originally Posted by Gerami

Way to prove thrash's point.

Don't make accusations without elaboration. Way to get ignored.

[Cloven]

Looks like we should pass a joint around now and be friends.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by Cloven

Looks like we should pass a joint around now and be friends.

I'd prefer a Chicken Sandwich actually

[zokemon]

I find it funny how Gani Team got votes ^_^
Makes sense since both voters are ganiers but still humorous none the less.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Inverness

I'd prefer a Chicken Sandwich actually

Spicy Chicken Sandwich, but yeah, that sounds pretty tasty.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by zokemon

I find it funny how Gani Team got votes ^_^
Makes sense since both voters are ganiers but still humorous none the less.

Ganis are nice but hardly vital to the server. Things like that can be done with animated images, inefficient but possible. Theres also the default existing Ganis.

By the way, I consider Gani-related duties as part of the GAT, since it has to do with graphics.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Ganis are nice but hardly vital to the server. Things like that can be done with animated images, inefficient but possible. Theres also the default existing Ganis.

By the way, I consider Gani-related duties as part of the GAT, since it has to do with graphics.

I'm very good with ganis but I'm horrible with graphics though.

[Inverness]

Originally Posted by zokemon

I'm very good with ganis but I'm horrible with graphics though.

Yea but having NAT, LAT, GAT then Gani Team, that just looks bad, so I stick them in with the GATs. Or maybe I could call them AATs, Animation Administration Team.

Hey, that sounds cool.

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Yea but having NAT, LAT, GAT then Gani Team, that just looks bad, so I stick them in with the GATs. Or maybe I could call them AATs, Animation Administration Team.

Hey, that sounds cool.

I personally hate the acronyms. I use Scripter, Graphic Artist, Level Builder (or Level Designer) and Gani Animator (or just Animator).