Zooming out

coreys · #1 07-30-2007, 09:59 PM

Does anyone know if there's any way to zoom out the level, like what the flying technology does, but without actually using flying technology?

Twinny · #2 07-30-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coreys

Does anyone know if there's any way to zoom out the level, like what the flying technology does, but without actually using flying technology?

*waits for Zero*

bscharff · #3 07-31-2007, 04:30 AM

On Clientside, use player.zoom = .5;
That will give you half the size.
I'm not quite sure but I'm pretty sure it will.

DustyPorViva · #4 07-31-2007, 04:31 AM

No way, or else they wouldn't need to introduce flying technology.

I tried messing around with level stuff yesterday, and was sadly disappointed that you couldn't rotate the level

killerogue · #5 07-31-2007, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bscharff

On Clientside, use player.zoom = .5;
That will give you half the size.
I'm not quite sure but I'm pretty sure it will.

Err, Vash wants to know how to zoom out a level my friend. No the player.

zokemon · #6 08-03-2007, 05:57 AM

Twinny haha.
Yeah, this is my sole reason for wanting flying tech because I want to do an entire canvas zoom rather then zooming individual objects (a tilelayer.zoom would be nice too but would probably need like an offsetx/offsety or so to not look funny at times).

If you are wondering how I "did it", I really didn't do anything on my server other then make the player smaller. The graphics I use just are all 32x32 so it gives the illusion that everything is zoomed out. I want flying tech so I can reverse this process and zoom everything back to normal size while keep the integrity of 1024 icons per level ^_^.

Oh and, I guess this is a "hi I'm back from my 3 week graal-made-me-mad escapade".

smirt362 · #7 08-03-2007, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Oh and, I guess this is a "hi I'm back from my 3 week graal-made-me-mad escapade".

Good cause the Gileada Inventory window is broke :[
And...people cant get past the first room of the tutorial!

zokemon · #8 08-03-2007, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smirt362

Good cause the Gileada Inventory window is broke :[
And...people cant get past the first room of the tutorial!

Yeah, v5 really messed a bunch of things up for my server but I think I fixed all of it (except the horrible lag I now get around particle and light effects which I can't seem to do anything about). The inventory I didn't fix though (that was a problem with v4 too, I dunno what is causing it but reconnecting or resizing the Graal window usually fixes it).

coreys · #9 08-03-2007, 07:19 AM

I've heard rumors that Flying Technology won't be available for all servers. Anyone know if this is true? Because Maniaman honestly expects me and Stan to make our own. :<

zokemon · #10 08-03-2007, 08:39 AM

Good luck with that... Unless you plan to entirely emulate tiles, you won't be able to do it. You should just tell Mania to ask Stefan himself if Maloria can include that in their planning or if the idea should just be scrapped all together.

coreys · #11 08-03-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Good luck with that... Unless you plan to entirely emulate tiles, you won't be able to do it. You should just tell Mania to ask Stefan himself if Maloria can include that in their planning or if the idea should just be scrapped all together.

Well he knows we can't zoom out without new script features, but he wants us to just make the flying vehicles invisible (except for a shadow) for people on the ground when it's above a certain z height. It's possible, I suppose, but I can't think anyone who would want to script that.

zokemon · #12 08-04-2007, 07:30 AM

That's easily only a few lines of code...

coreys · #13 08-04-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

That's easily only a few lines of code...

The whole thing isn't.

zokemon · #14 08-04-2007, 08:01 AM

I mean hiding an object that is above a certain z height (but keeping the shadow).

coreys · #15 08-04-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

I mean hiding an object that is above a certain z height (but keeping the shadow).

Yeah, but what about hiding the players that are ON the flying object. Although, I guess that could be done easily with the player.alpha that we now have.

zokemon · #16 08-05-2007, 01:05 AM

Change gani, adjust player.zoom or as you say, adjust player.alpha. There are tons of solutions and many of them are easily just a few lines of text.

coreys · #17 08-05-2007, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Change gani, adjust player.zoom or as you say, adjust player.alpha. There are tons of solutions and many of them are easily just a few lines of text.

Okay. I still don't find it appealing to script that whole thing. lol
Plus it doesn't look that great for height to be represented merely by being a several tiles above where you really are. Increasing z looks the same as decreasing y. Which is sad.

zokemon · #18 08-05-2007, 06:33 AM

You could always increase player.zoom and decrease player.alpha when player.z is increased.

coreys · #19 08-05-2007, 08:53 AM

I guess...although player.zoom looks real crappy, but I don't imagine flying technology would change that anyways

Inverness · #20 08-05-2007, 10:20 AM

Who cares about what crap you can do to emulate flying technology, that is simply not an appropriate substitute for the actual technology to zoom the map out as if you were very high above it.

zokemon · #21 08-05-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness

Who cares about what crap you can do to emulate flying technology, that is simply not an appropriate substitute for the actual technology to zoom the map out as if you were very high above it.

This is true. Canvas zoom will rock. Now if we could only edit the canvas in other ways such as extending the "level borders" so that you could see the black-space around the edges of a level (so that with a high z don't just disappear off your screen).