Classic Revolution. - Page 2

gravator · #41 07-20-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristi

This thread is nonsense but for the sake of it.
You can't just tell these people to WORK on a server and expect them to want to. Oh yes, obviously Tyhm, kiraar, wikkid, and Yen would obviously all say YES to developing on classic.

Just to inform you, WiKKiD was hired on classic, and never did any work. Tyhm has no intention of playing, yen will never have an rc on classic, ever, period. And to be honest, i see no need for stryker to be replaced with anyone.

Second: Stuff is being done. Do you see it, no. If one or two things were released (much like the castle quest was), people would be excited for a day then complain the same way they always did, as that is exactly what happened.

Third: Staff that work for free have no inclination to work. They have live and would rather be having fun.

Four: Why would you want to work for a bunch of unappreciative brats like everyone who posted here? Note that the staff that IS working this very moment is the very staff you are flaming. Who wants to do anything when nobody even gives them a pat on the back? One of my best LATs, Laura, quit because the players were jerks to her. She liked working otherwise. Anyone who has contributed one good level or script or graphic, merely one, you should be kissing their feet, because they did work FOR YOU for FREE. Hell, some would even say they PAID to do the work.

If you don't like it, then get so good that you can develop for classic and do it yourself, otherwise, you have no grounds to complain about anything.

Edit: oh, and to the person who said I level up on zodiac... wtf? I am pretty sure, unless someone edited my account, that it is still level one.

Well people seem to be complaining mostly about how long it seems to be taking to see ANY kind of new content on classic, the castle quest was indeed fantastic, but that was a a bit over a year ago, does it really take so long to have another area made and scripting done for it? the horses were added yes, but that seems very small compared to a big and interesting quest.

I'm sure it would satisfy people to know a little about what project was being planned for classic next, a new quest maybe or a new section of the world to explore, instead of waiting for months/years and only being told "work is being done" every time, I feel its not good to try making everything at once before it gets added, it may take several years and by then many people have moved on with their lives.

Sure there's the promise of new players coming to graal, but there's not many people to spread the word about graal classic and no advertising for it, you could hope most of the older players will spread the word, but remember, "most" of them already left and the last memories of classic they had were of a server that really wasn't worth visiting anymore because nothing seemed to be going on, i'm unsure i would want to try a game like that if i never played graal myself, because nobody wants to play an almost dead game.

Kristi · #42 07-20-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gravator

Well people seem to be complaining mostly about how long it seems to be taking to see ANY kind of new content on classic, the castle quest was indeed fantastic, but that was a a bit over a year ago, does it really take so long to have another area made and scripting done for it? the horses were added yes, but that seems very small compared to a big and interesting quest.

I'm sure it would satisfy people to know a little about what project was being planned for classic next, a new quest maybe or a new section of the world to explore, instead of waiting for months/years and only being told "work is being done" every time, I feel its not good to try making everything at once before it gets added, it may take several years and by then many people have moved on with their lives.

Sure there's the promise of new players coming to graal, but there's not many people to spread the word about graal classic and no advertising for it, you could hope most of the older players will spread the word, but remember, "most" of them already left and the last memories of classic they had were of a server that really wasn't worth visiting anymore because nothing seemed to be going on, i'm unsure i would want to try a game like that if i never played graal myself, because nobody wants to play an almost dead game.

I feel at this point that revamping the storyline to match what it should have been is more important. I cannot just release a quest here or there because it does not fit into what we currently have. That will not save classic. That would just delay its demise. What is currently here just does not work, period.

OMGosh · #43 07-20-2007, 09:31 PM

LMAO! Thanks for mentioning the Castle Quest. Not only do we only have 3 quests, but the Castle Quest Boss doesn't even work anymore!! The boss wasn't waking up, so when we sent our only scripter "Rachel Allure" to fix it, she made it so he's always awake (ignoring the fact it took time to make the sleeping animation). After her making him awake, she made it so he does the animations without grabbing you and throwing you, congrats there. He still doesn't take any damage. Very good team HR, very good.

We're not expecting you to spit out crap but I could've made some rather crappy quests as well with like 2 people and still have something worth doing. You're just like Massokre, craving perfection. I would rather 20 crappy quests (ie:UN) than 3 (or should I say 2 now?) Good quests!

OMGosh · #44 07-20-2007, 09:41 PM

Update:Even though most the animations were completely disregarded, the quest it back up and working-ish.

Kristi · #45 07-20-2007, 09:42 PM

the boss broke because this.mode is now used as an internal variable in graalv5, which in graalv4 it wasnt. this.mode is something massokre used as a custom variable in many things ^_^ if that goes over your head, don't worry about it

Crono · #46 07-20-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

First of all, Yen would be good.

No he wouldn't. You don't supply any valid reason.

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2nd of all, you don't know WiKKiD. WiKKiD will be perfect because she knows how to bring people to a server.

I don't? Refer to Rufus' post noob.

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Kiirar would be 30 steps up from what Stryker is doing as GP Admin.

What's the point of policing a dead server?

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Tyhm is nothing too special. Shouldn't Manage.

And Yen is?

Luda · #47 07-20-2007, 11:13 PM

Secret I doubt you could make a decent quest, from what I can remember you can't even link two levels together.
Just let HR do his thing, when he is done then you can judge him. I would be helping out with the levels, but I've misbehaved in the past. :P

DutchGuy · #48 07-21-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristi

Well, see, if you applied, this is the problem

I like my team to get along. If this is how you feel about my team, then I would say you aren't really welcome on it

do you think i wanna be in a team with people drawing d!cks.. inside the graal bank

(bartholomew levels team member)

seriously, get a team who actually does something for the server instead of drawing d!cks. because they are bored.
great example on how the current lat team is on classic.

Kristi · #49 07-21-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchGuy

do you think i wanna be in a team with people drawing d!cks.. inside the graal bank

(bartholomew levels team member)

seriously, get a team who actually does something for the server instead of drawing d!cks. because they are bored.
great example on how the current lat team is on classic.

Although I do not agree with his actions, that same LAT did a large amount of work today.

Obby · #50 07-21-2007, 03:44 AM

For the record--I however, did talk to Kiirar--if you offered him a job, chances are very slim that he'd be back.

OMGosh · #51 07-21-2007, 05:00 AM

I'm glad. The fu(kt@rd Hell Raven just jailed me illegally. He said "racism", there was NO warning and it's not his job to do. If there are no GP on, it's Stryker's fault, don't mess with his buisness.

We have LATs thinking they're GPs, GPs thinking they're FAQs, FAQs thinking they're websites, and GCs thinking they're Gods.

If you call this a functional server then what you are, is a dysfunctional human being, to say the least.

Kristi · #52 07-21-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

I'm glad. The fu(kt@rd Hell Raven just jailed me illegally. He said "racism", there was NO warning and it's not his job to do. If there are no GP on, it's Stryker's fault, don't mess with his buisness.

We have LATs thinking they're GPs, GPs thinking they're FAQs, FAQs thinking they're websites, and GCs thinking they're Gods.

If you call this a functional server then what you are, is a dysfunctional human being, to say the least.

Right, and I asked Stryker if I may sentence those misbehaving. He said "if there are no GPs on." If you're going to spout racism and the eff word, then yes, I think I made a good call to jail you. Knowing you, you'll do it again right when you get out of jail just so you can complain about being jailed again.

maximus_asinus · #53 07-21-2007, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

I'm glad. The fu(kt@rd Hell Raven just jailed me illegally. He said "racism", there was NO warning and it's not his job to do. If there are no GP on, it's Stryker's fault, don't mess with his buisness.

We have LATs thinking they're GPs, GPs thinking they're FAQs, FAQs thinking they're websites, and GCs thinking they're Gods.

If you call this a functional server then what you are, is a dysfunctional human being, to say the least.

To sum this post up:

"Why are you punishing me for misbehaving? All I was doing was saying racist things when a GP wasn't on in hopes I could get away with it (but obviously I never)."

I got jailed too, but you don't see me complaining (except I hate the new jail Hell Raven

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MysticX2X · #54 07-21-2007, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

Just so you all know, a few days ago, Hell Raven gave Ranger a "Manager" tag and Ranger jailed 2 people. Note: One of the reasons he listed was "lol".

That was me

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BTW, the GP AND GC team heavly need to be reorganized. First with gp actually hiring more gps and with GC actually hiring GC's who are willing to host and arent lazy bastards.

OMGosh · #55 07-21-2007, 08:20 AM

Wow, Mystic said something intelligent for once. Impressive. However, no Hell Raven, I'm not going to again. I'd rather simply have you fired for abuse. Jailing for racism when nothing I said was racist in anyway. Of course I said the "F" word, who doesn't on Classic? It's not your job and even if it was, you'd be doing it wrong, like you're doing your current job wrong. Do us all a favor and go play in traffic.

Luda · #56 07-21-2007, 08:26 AM

Wah wah wah deal with it, I've had to.
BTW Max it's more of a detention center :-p

OMGosh · #57 07-21-2007, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Wah wah wah deal with it, I've had to.
BTW Max it's more of a detention center :-p

No duh you've had to deal with it. You've been screwed over by Stryker just as much as I have. But the fact remains, Hell Raven is not Stryker, he just seems to think he is. I don't think Classic should keep the person responsible for giving Hell Retard jailing/ban/detention rights...or any other rights for that matter. MS is not a bad person, in fact, I care deeply for him, he's just made several hundred small mistakes. >.>

Luda · #58 07-21-2007, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

No duh you've had to deal with it. You've been screwed over by Stryker just as much as I have.

Everytime Stryker has jailed/banned me he's had a good reason.

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

But the fact remains, Hell Raven is not Stryker, he just seems to think he is. I don't think Classic should keep the person responsible for giving Hell Retard jailing/ban/detention rights...or any other rights for that matter.

How does HR think he is Stryker? Stryker has given him permission to jail just as long as there is no GP's on.

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

MS is not a bad person, in fact, I care deeply for him, he's just made several hundred small mistakes. >.>

how deep....?

OMGosh · #59 07-21-2007, 08:42 AM

I would seriously consider a relationship with the fello if I wasn't taken. =O
-shock-

Oh and Stryker gave him permission to jail but that doesn't mean to skip the rules and forget to warn.

OMGosh · #60 07-21-2007, 08:47 AM

I'm glad you've realised how you've been sounding and have intelligently agreed to shut up. Now, Classic needs fixing.

Kristi · #61 07-21-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

I would seriously consider a relationship with the fello if I wasn't taken. =O
-shock-

Oh and Stryker gave him permission to jail but that doesn't mean to skip the rules and forget to warn.

Warning is for people who may not be aware they are wrong. You were massing telling people to misbehave *while* misbehaving. Hense, you know you were wrong. My judgement says a warning is not neccessary.

DutchGuy · #62 07-21-2007, 09:22 AM

kristi 4 gp admin
i see him backing up his actions.
thats already more then stryker has ever did.

MysticX2X · #63 07-21-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

Wow, Mystic said something intelligent for once. Impressive. However, no Hell Raven, I'm not going to again. I'd rather simply have you fired for abuse. Jailing for racism when nothing I said was racist in anyway. Of course I said the "F" word, who doesn't on Classic? It's not your job and even if it was, you'd be doing it wrong, like you're doing your current job wrong. Do us all a favor and go play in traffic.

Oh you're secret, figures.

Anyways stryker is probably the strictest ever. After 2 jails he decides to give me a 2 week ban and tells me im very close to perma ban. Thats ****ed up. Took me 15 jails in 1 year to get a month ban on UN.

And the 2 jails were for like glitch abusing even though i didnt attack anyone with it and makining fun of rufus's name once.

OMGosh · #64 07-21-2007, 08:24 PM

Mystic...you're not very smart. =/ 2 Jailings is more than enough to ban you for even 2 weeks. As long as they were around the same time and for the same reason. He could've given you a month like those noob-arse GPs on UN.

If I had to choose though, between Stryker and Hell Raven, I'd choose Stryker without hesitation. At least Stryker has, for some un-godly reason, found some people who do their job good. Where as, Hell Retard couldn't find his arse with both his hands, much less somebody who knows what they're doing. He has 3 people barely (or under) 14 years of age and one person barely older than 17.

maximus_asinus · #65 07-21-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Wah wah wah deal with it, I've had to.
BTW Max it's more of a detention center :-p

WHAT?!

Hell Raven is attempting to replace the old detention level?! This is blasphemy!

OMGosh · #66 07-21-2007, 08:36 PM

He's finished it and started using it as if it were a soda machine.

Inspiration · #67 07-21-2007, 10:40 PM

Oh my god, this is the most tl;dr thread I've ever seen in my entire life.

It's like 2-3 idiots rambling on about **** they know nothing about, a few smart people providing reason/facts as to why said idiots are wrong, and the idiots doing what idiots do best and learning nothing from it.

Yen for manager/admin on Classic? That would've been about as good of an idea as Hitler being chosen to lead the Hebrews out of Egypt instead of Moses.

OMGosh · #68 07-21-2007, 10:52 PM

Unkown, you have no right talking, last time you were even on Classic was like 8 years ago so ****.

Kristi · #69 07-21-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

Unkown, you have no right talking, last time you were even on Classic was like 8 years ago so ****.

Inspiration has way more knowledge about classic's state of affairs then you do, actually (as if I even needed to point that out)

Inspiration · #70 07-21-2007, 11:07 PM

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Unkown, you have no right talking, last time you were even on Classic was like 8 years ago so ****.

Yeah, even though I made about 12 levels towards the new Graal City (which a ton of people have seen) a few months ago, and I plan on continuing my work soon.

But you're totally right, 8 years ago, when I first started, is the last time I was on classic.

DutchGuy · #71 07-21-2007, 11:48 PM

HR you think you got a hard working team..
well that may be so..but they are almost begging to join zodiac, since rufus is manager.
another stupid lat trying to get away from classic.

OMGosh · #72 07-21-2007, 11:50 PM

I'm 100% sure I know more about the current Classic and it's affairs with the staff than you do. (Completely disregarding Hell Retard's post.) You don't know a thing about the current team besides that Hell Retard is the Dev Admin. So if you don't mind, stay out of current affairs since there's nothing you can do but offer your services in replacing Hell Retard. If you're not planning on replacing him, mind your own buisness.

DutchGuy · #73 07-22-2007, 12:08 AM

rumors about a castle?

and hell acting as himself again towards his staff.

Crono · #74 07-22-2007, 01:21 AM

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and hell acting as himself again towards his staff.

What the hell is your point? Hardly anyone on Graal behaves.

Developers can **** up if they want, they still put out work.

MysticX2X · #75 07-22-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristi

Inspiration has way more knowledge about classic's state of affairs then you do, actually (as if I even needed to point that out)

Always thought it was the current players knowing whats up.

Kristi · #76 07-22-2007, 05:37 AM

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rumors about a castle?

and hell acting as himself again towards his staff.

OH MY GOD I AM JOKING WITH A FELLOW STAFF AND FRIEND, I AM SUCH A BAD DEVELOPMENT ADMIN FOR NOT BEING AN EMOTIONLESS BORING ROBOT.

I think you are misunderstanding Imperialistic. He has been in love with Rufus for almost two years. His immense feelings not being returned hurts him so bad that he crys a lot, often on my sholder. He is just begging to be close to him. I wish you could be a little nicer about his feelings.

Inspiration · #77 07-22-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGosh

I'm 100% sure I know more about the current Classic and it's affairs with the staff than you do. (Completely disregarding Hell Retard's post.) You don't know a thing about the current team besides that Hell Retard is the Dev Admin. So if you don't mind, stay out of current affairs since there's nothing you can do but offer your services in replacing Hell Retard. If you're not planning on replacing him, mind your own buisness.

Can you even read? I'm on the current team. I do work for the current team. Yet all I know is that Hell Raven is the Dev Admin?

You come in here, you make ridiculous accusations, you present a replacement team that looks like it was picked out of a random hat entitled "laziest/most corrupt staff ever, save Tyhm", and you do absolutely nothing to help the situation what so ever.

You know nothing about game development, and you know nothing about Classic's current project and what's being done on it.

You've stated zero facts. You've stated all opinion. That's fine, you're allowed to have one. Just stop acting like you have some major insight onto a subject that's been brought up 100 times before! Thanks!

DutchGuy · #78 07-22-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration

Can you even read? I'm on the current team. I do work for the current team. Yet all I know is that Hell Raven is the Dev Admin?

You come in here, you make ridiculous accusations, you present a replacement team that looks like it was picked out of a random hat entitled "laziest/most corrupt staff ever, save Tyhm", and you do absolutely nothing to help the situation what so ever.

You know nothing about game development, and you know nothing about Classic's current project and what's being done on it.

You've stated zero facts. You've stated all opinion. That's fine, you're allowed to have one. Just stop acting like you have some major insight onto a subject that's been brought up 100 times before! Thanks!

maybe that is the current problem. we know nothing about your so called little project, because you as team refuse to give a little preview of whats happening.
Rather you let everyone wait for over months now, leaving us no option to whine about everything.

gravator · #79 07-22-2007, 04:27 PM

I'm just hoping classic doesn't wind up like era, where someone gets ahold of the project, has their "great ideas for originality" only to be halfway done and vanish later because they have better things in life to do or some other complication.

All i have left to say is, you can fail like many others before you, or you can prove lots of people wrong and actually get this server fixed up and bring in the new and old players once again.

Inspiration · #80 07-22-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchGuy

maybe that is the current problem. we know nothing about your so called little project, because you as team refuse to give a little preview of whats happening.
Rather you let everyone wait for over months now, leaving us no option to whine about everything.

Previews have been given to a decent amount of people.