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If your definition of "ruling the forums" means speaking in modified Chuck Norris jokes and half-witted 4chan lingo, then yes, I guess you still "rule the forums" to this day. But that's only a stone's throw away from all-talk **** swinging like I said earlier, isn't it?
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I'm not talking about me, and I'm not talking about some allied group that conspires to dominate the forums, or something. I'm referring to the fact that Kaimetsu set the
culture of the forums, particularly those aspects of it that make it unique from other forums and especially other game forums. Just about anybody of any significance on the forums (except maybe Moon Goddess and Sam, who nobody would care about anyways if it weren't for their staff powers) have had their conduct and posting style influenced considerably by Kaimetsu (even if they think it's cool to act like they haven't). This is what I'm talking about when I say "crew".
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Another dubious part of your story deals with Kaimetsu's so-called ownage of Aftershock. As I understand, and as research reminds us, Kaimetsu closed a thread that Aftershock felt should be left open. Aftershock reopened the thread and then Kaimetsu closed it a second time, banning aftershock thereafter. Aftershock proceeded to go on a rampage, deleting a lot of Kaimetsu's posts.
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Aftershock was banned
after he deleted a bunch of Kaimetsu's posts. Not before doing so. Also, you're only looking at the last day or so of the battle. The conflict between them lasted for weeks beforehand.
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News flash: this isn't "ultimate." This isn't "ownage" or "epic win." This is two insecure forums moderators playing tit-for-tat while the public watches. Perhaps by now you've realized the irony of me having to research this ridiculous topic; it's not remembered because no one cares. Moon Goddess and Sam delete posts and close threads they don't like every day.
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Yeah, Moon Goddess and Sam delete posts and close threads and nobody considers that to be "epic win". Kaimetsu also deleted other posts and closed other threads and nobody considered that to be "epic win" either, because Aftershock vs. Kaimetsu isn't about deleting posts and closing threads. It's about the fact that Kaimetsu took down a moderator, something a whole lot of people on the forums only wish they could do.
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Are they "epic win" too? Are their careers "too big to be put to rest?" No, of course not. People like that are only remembered when it's time to complain and someone needs a martyr.
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Even if we don't like to admit it, the influence Moon Goddess has had on the forums has been huge. Second only to Kaimetsu if not number one (not counting people who are truly "essential" like Stefan and Unixmad). Moon Goddess radically altered how the forums are moderated and in doing so radically altered the forums themselves. Sure, most of us see her influence as being
negative, but it is huge nonetheless. (Sam is far less relevant).
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Kaimetsu at best fought a battle to a draw with Aftershock and at worst abused the living hell out of his powers and quit thereafter. Bad fighter or just a coward? You decide.
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Aftershock gets banned and Kaimetsu doesn't. How is this a draw?
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He's a question for you. Has Kaimetsu actually done anything that still persists today, in-game?
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Yes, though not much. A few scripts (i.e. Metris) that are still around were made by Kaimetsu. More important would be how he helped other scripters and worked on the creation of GS2. I don't see how this is relevant when we're talking about influence on the forums.
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Have you even logged on recently?
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Pretty much every day.
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Does anyone from your "crew" do anything useful for the game?
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Beats me. I don't pay much attention to who's staff on servers outside 2K2.
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you claim to be the "God of the forums" yet in many of your posts you seem to simply claim to Kaimetsu's outdated (and deleted!) posts and ideology. How is it, Googi, you manage to be both slave and master? You call yourself a deity and you sort of just rehash whatever Kaimetsu might have said in the situation, only you cover it up with inside jokes and nonsense just in case your questionable intellect has misled you and you end up misinterpreting whatever your lord and master tells you to think, thus earning you ire from both sides of whatever fictitious argument or arguments you perceive as going on here on the Graal Communication Center.
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Huh? I am always all about giving full reasoning and backing up arguments with evidence, explaining why they are true (and thus why I believe them to be true), and saying "because Kaimetsu would have said this" is not a justification I have ever used. If I am truly in error it should be possible to demonstrate where my reasoning/evidence is faulty, and not just go "olo ur just trying to b kai".
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