Global Graphics Team

[killerogue]

Hmmm. I really believe that the Global Graphics Team should be brought back for the sake of stolen graphics and the like on Graal. I know in 2005-2006 if I'm correct it became very, very inactive and no longer had a purpose but I think they would have a purpose and use now since there are so many servers nowadays and they would be able to create daily checks for stolen graphics and the like. Opinion?

[Gambet]

That's the job of the PWA and they've always handled issues regarding stolen content.

[Infernix]

Players really track down stolen content, PWA just say "Hi, they said you stole this *delete delete*"

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Gambet

That's the job of the PWA and they've always handled issues regarding stolen content.

Originally Posted by Infernix

Players really track down stolen content, PWA just say "Hi, they said you stole this *delete delete*"

What other purposes were the GGT originally here for then? :O

[napo_p2p]

Originally Posted by killerogue

What other purposes were the GGT originally here for then? :O

Doing graphics for GK and the like.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by napo_p2p

Doing graphics for GK and the like.

Well, they could be brought back simply for this purpose to make GK better and to generally help all PWs having trouble with a graphic they can't get. For example on Dual Ortus. Codein and I are both having trouble coming up with some cliff tiles:

[Insert Witty Mock-Up Conversation By Tyhm]

And kabam there we go. Perfectly good cliffs. I hope you don't mind that Tyhm.

[Tyhm]

Whad' I say...? :P
My concern is that we'd wind up with a bunch of GGTers that help out some servers more than others (as was the case when the survivors got conscripted to work on Kingdoms)...when what we really need is for some servers to share graphics. To say "Hey Valk, I love how you did the cliffs here, can I borrow that part of your tileset?" and they say "Sure, just don't take the whole thing". But as it stands the standard response is "No, your server will get popular and my playercount will go down!", because the community is set to pit PWs against each other rather than work with each other. We're acting like street vendors instead of a food court: street vendors compete with each other for customers, whereas a food court works together (somewhat) to draw more customers into the mall in the first place.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

Whad' I say...? :P

I inserted one of your witty made-up conversation from the other couple threads in Main.


Also, agree with what the rest of you what you say. O_O
Ugh, bad typing.

[Spark910]

The last GGT went through spouts of inactivity. It's nice to have graphically talented individuals doing the job, but there is a small pool of candidates.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Spark910

The last GGT went through spouts of inactivity. It's nice to have graphically talented individuals doing the job, but there is a small pool of candidates.

If I had to suggest some:

Lancelot9 (Knows about alot of stolen content and material, if only he was still around)

Galdo (He leaves )

Zero Hour (Dunno if Stephen would do it)

Draenin (Again Dunno)

Elk (A Suggestion)

KawaiiSaria (Hoping She has returned for a bit)

Emrys (A suggestion)

Sir Tom

[Draenin]

My list of candidates would be lancelot9, Galdor, Stephen, Elk, Goboom, SaiyanOozaru, Tom, and myself.

The reason being because the people I've listed have pulled a lot of weight on certain servers, or have contributed smaller works to multiple ones.



If Global Graphics is re-formed, I don't think it needs to concern itself solely with stolen content. As has been said, PWA can handle that. (That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep our eyes open, though.) Instead, it would need to be comprised of people willing to work on any server they are assigned to by Cyberjoueurs.

It really might be a good idea, because commissioning works for higher management will keep team members from trying to stick to one server.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Draenin

My list of candidates would be lancelot9, Galdor, Stephen, Elk, Goboom, SaiyanOozaru, Tom, and myself.

The reason being because the people I've listed have pulled a lot of weight on certain servers, or have contributed smaller works to multiple ones.



If Global Graphics is re-formed, I don't think it needs to concern itself solely with stolen content. As has been said, PWA can handle that. (That doesn't mean we shouldn't keep our eyes open, though.) Instead, it would need to be comprised of people willing to work on any server they are assigned to by Cyberjoueurs.

It really might be a good idea, because commissioning works for higher management will keep team members from trying to stick to one server.

I knew there was someone I had forgotten SaiyanOozaru. Also thanks for the explanation of reasons.

[Draenin]

If we can form a team for putting out new (And shared) content for developers, it might get things rolling again.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Draenin

If we can form a team for putting out new (And shared) content for developers, it might get things rolling again.

Maybe start a VIP guild for that. :] Or something. Let's ask for Stefan's permission.

[Minoc]

I think it would be better to assign them to make GLOBAL graphics.

[Draenin]

That's what I meant by shared content. I mean, we're still stuck with a lot of content originating from 2k2 and earlier. An update to the archaic images of stuff we thought was cool back in '99 or '98 would be really nice, if you ask me.

[Devil]

Waste of time, don't bring this team back.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Devil

Waste of time, don't bring this team back.

That's not a comparable argument. You haven't given reasoning.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by killerogue

Hmmm. I really believe that the Global Graphics Team should be brought back for the sake of stolen graphics and the like on Graal. I know in 2005-2006 if I'm correct it became very, very inactive and no longer had a purpose but I think they would have a purpose and use now since there are so many servers nowadays and they would be able to create daily checks for stolen graphics and the like. Opinion?

Then I wanna see a Global Levels Team...I would also say Global Scripting Team but I think they still exist.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I would also say Global Scripting Team but I think they still exist.

Correct ]:

[Draenin]

Either one of these organizations would work, especially if they collaborated with other significant administrators and performed work under orders of Cyberjoueurs staff.

[warp2ukew]

global levels team ftw

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Draenin

That's not a comparable argument. You haven't given reasoning.

Oh ok, well isn't "They're not needed, they didn't do much last time, and they certainly aren't needed this time", good enough now?

It's just another group of people who will wear a global tag, think they're cool, and do squat.

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by Devil

Oh ok, well isn't "They're not needed, they didn't do much last time, and they certainly aren't needed this time", good enough now?

It's just another group of people who will wear a global tag, think they're cool, and do squat.

Exactly what I would say. Excuse to become global staff. If players find stolen content they can report it if it offends them. If a player world needs graphics they hire an artist.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Devil

Oh ok, well isn't "They're not needed, they didn't do much last time, and they certainly aren't needed this time", good enough now

Not really. The group we're suggesting now is quite a bit different than the original.

Originally Posted by Devil

It's just another group of people who will wear a global tag, think they're cool, and do squat.

Global Graphics would have tangible work in front of them, unlike PWA, which usually sits idle until some kind of drama arises.

[HoudiniMan]

I totally agree there should be a group for helping PWs improve graphics and the like. I just don't think you need a global RC to do it.

However, it's much harder to get excited about volunteer work without a reward in power now isn't it. Welcome to my world

[Twinny]

I'd say having the official tag is more useful.

[Demisis_P2P]

I still wouldn't do it for a tag AND global RC.
Those are still basically intrinsic rewards.
If I wanted to do something to feel like a good person I'd just stop kidnapping my neighbors pets and dying them green and then telling the kids that they have to be put down.

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Minoc

I think it would be better to assign them to make GLOBAL graphics.

Yeah. A lot of people who become globals stop developing, perhaps because they don't have as much time. It's a shame to create the GGT position when PWA can essentially handle it.

[smirt362]

With what Draenin was talking about in another thread, about having a graphics resource place that everyone could use, perhaps one of the duties of the Global Graphics Team could be to create images of weapons, heads, bodies, shields, tiles, etc that everyone could partake of.

[zell12]

Zen and his team did hardly anything before, so what makes you think something different will come out of this this time?

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Twinny

I'd say having the official tag is more useful.

So make a guild! (The Graphics Crew) or something...

[Torankusu]

Should the GGT be revived I think that they should be responsible for making new baddy sprite-sheets for global use. That way we at least have alternative images for the default baddies. Then they should be included in the editor.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

So make a guild! (The Graphics Crew) or something...

Keyword was official, i.e. official to Graal. GGT would be more respectable than The Graphics Crew. Regardless of the cooler name .

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Not really. The group we're suggesting now is quite a bit different than the original.
Global Graphics would have tangible work in front of them, unlike PWA, which usually sits idle until some kind of drama arises.

PWA can handle it, give me a break, they have **** all to do as it is, I'm sure they can handle some "stolen graphics".

Zen admitted he done nothing as it was, don't give me that crap Draenin, you're supposed to be intelligent.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Devil

PWA can handle it, give me a break, they have **** all to do as it is, I'm sure they can handle some "stolen graphics".

Zen admitted he done nothing as it was, don't give me that crap Draenin, you're supposed to be intelligent.

Yeah but the PWAs can't really make graphics.
Some of them probably could shell out something or another, but nowhere near the same degree that a team of very capable primarily-gfx personnel could.

[zell12]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Yeah but the PWAs can't really make graphics.
Some of them probably could shell out something or another, but nowhere near the same degree that a team of very capable primarily-gfx personnel could.

We don't need all these different teams doing blah blah... if you want to help, offer your help. If not, stop boasting about it.


PWA can handle the administrative duties. Complaints from users -> PWA investigates -> action taken

Simple


Now if only the PWA can get in some order...

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by zell12

We don't need all these different teams doing blah blah... if you want to help, offer your help. If not, stop boasting about it.

Sure you do. One team can't do it all. It's a common theme in almost all businesses -- disaggregation of tasks to teams of specialists. You don't see companies getting floor workers to do their accounting.

PWAs deal with PWA crap.
GGT makes graphics.
GST makes scripts.
Makes perfect sense and isn't complicated at all.

Besides, I don't want to offer my help, and I don't see how I'm boasting. I'd never want to be a global.

Originally Posted by zell12

PWA can handle the administrative duties. Complaints from users -> PWA investigates -> action taken

Simple

Cool but they're not talking about complaints, they're talking about making graphics.

[Elk]

Global Graphics Team:

Inspecting Images on Playerworlds
doing Graphics for Gold Playerworlds, working on new Project
Helping with graphics related issues

And actually...there is no need for Baddys for default use..
Textures of Graal 3D I say...
Or single graphics for Terrain Playerworlds

I already call myself Global even tho I dont have a tag or rights.
I just help people, even with Management, but at the moment, I have no Gold or VIP time on this Account
which I will buy soon to be active and work on something big again.

There in fact a GGT needed

Stefan you have to bring it back.

Thanks !

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Keyword was official, i.e. official to Graal. GGT would be more respectable than The Graphics Crew. Regardless of the cooler name .

When is the last time being "official" got anybody respect? lol.

You have to be cool - like me.

...

Yeah.

ALSO: Inspecting is my job, back off!

An elite team (The Graphics Crew) can just as easily submit awesome new sprite packs and the like to the graphics forums without any kind of permission or whatever. I vote they do it in an effort to be recognized as contributors first, and possibly be considered if there was a need to hire some staff in that area at a later time.