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Old 12-18-2006, 11:58 PM
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Whats with players coming to me in shops and trying to sell me items for USD?
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:35 AM
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That's how games naturally evolve. Most end up with players doing underhanded deals out of game with USD.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:53 AM
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Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:56 AM
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Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?
I would laugh if it did, possibly Zodiac, but I couldn't see it happening on other servers.
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:59 AM
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This has been happening on ERA, GK, Zodiac, and Maloria (from what i know so far)
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:03 AM
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I've been on Zodiac a bit and I haven't seen any USDing going on.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:08 AM
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I have... even when it came out.
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:11 AM
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Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?
Era, Zodiac, and Maloria (well not so much now).
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:51 AM
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What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?
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Old 12-19-2006, 01:58 AM
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What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?
You really can't do anything. It's not that big of deal, it's gonna happen.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:01 AM
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What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?
You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:38 AM
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You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.
How many people play Kingdoms now? As for Zone well eh.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:21 AM
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Lol yeah, I see your point. But when the "next?" gold server comes out, I'm sure Graal could implement something.
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Old 12-19-2006, 04:00 AM
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You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.
Good Idea!
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:03 AM
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Lol yeah, I see your point. But when the "next?" gold server comes out, I'm sure Graal could implement something.
Yea if 3d ever gets done and has a server I could see something or maybe on the new 2k1 if/when it comes out maybe a $ for G thing?
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Old 12-19-2006, 06:04 AM
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Yea if 3d ever gets done and has a server I could see something or maybe on the new 2k1 if/when it comes out maybe a $ for G thing?
Yep, perfect times to test it out. Especially with G3D.
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:56 AM
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Old 12-19-2006, 12:50 PM
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:19 PM
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:39 AM
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You really can't do anything. It's not that big of deal, it's gonna happen.
Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:46 AM
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Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.
I think the staff have given up on GK. As for Era and Zodiac I doubt they care as most of the staff spawn items anyway.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:49 AM
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I think the staff have given up on GK.
It's more that they just never really cared. Sam pretty much admitted that the staff don't care about actually stopping USDing, just about protecting Cyberjoueurs from liability related to it.
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Old 12-20-2006, 05:58 AM
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As for Era and Zodiac I doubt they care as most of the staff spawn items anyway.
Quite the assumption.
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Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.
That wouldn't do anything... just don't include staff if you're mass messaging about Selling over AIM/MSN.
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:14 AM
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Quite the assumption.
You havent thoroughly reviewed all the logs have you? People have been doing it since Chrisz's Era. The only non-currupt Era was Delph's. But anyway this is about Graal and USD not Eras downfall.
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That wouldn't do anything... just don't include staff if you're mass messaging about Selling over AIM/MSN.
Do you think you could get away with linking to trainers in mass messages by not including staff in the mass?
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:26 AM
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Do you think you could get away with linking to trainers in mass messages by not including staff in the mass?
I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:34 AM
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I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.
That doesn't really answer my question.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:12 AM
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You havent thoroughly reviewed all the logs have you? People have been doing it since Chrisz's Era. The only non-currupt Era was Delph's. But anyway this is about Graal and USD not Eras downfall.
Oh I know items have been spawned, but those responsible have been dealt with. Though you wouldn't know/understand that.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:16 AM
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I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.
Yeah but lots of staff play on secondary accounts that they use to become friends with troublemakers.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:11 AM
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:17 AM
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Oh I know items have been spawned, but those responsible have been dealt with. Though you wouldn't know/understand that.
I'm afraid it stems beyond that, although it's not really a problem anymore. I would say, based on my personal experience with the current staff, there's a 95% chance of very little abuse of staff powers.
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I've made around $30 USD for Zodiac items
What the hell did you sell?
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Maybe it could be incorporated into Graal3d, with Graal charging USD for items in game. Hopefully not things to make people instantly better than other players.
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Hopefully not things to make people instantly better than other players.
I doubt there's much incentive for people to buy it, otherwise.
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There is an extent which could be reached. Nothing too insane (items).
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I've made around $30 USD for Zodiac items
I could probably get alot more for my junk, but I'd rather not seeing as it sounds like a scam.
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