Stop.

maximus_asinus · #1 10-23-2006, 01:13 PM

I logged on for the first time in two weeks, and I'm pretty disgusted with what I seen. Why exactly are you guys changing key levels, such as Graal City (refering to the newly added NBK guild house smack dab in the center of Graal City)? I don't think levels like these should be changed. New content should be placed outside of this area, a buffer zone for new/old content. The place is an important part of Classic's history. I thought this new LAT Team was going to bring back the old content, not destroy it. It isn't really my place to say what happens, since I don't log on much anymore, but I mean, come on, have a little more common sense then this.

Devil · #2 10-23-2006, 01:29 PM

Ugh, I used to love classic, but that is not on!

Yeah ok NBK has been around for a long time, but it doesn't need to be right in the center of Graal City.

*thumbs down*

soulwazza · #3 10-23-2006, 02:25 PM

I haven't seen any changes lately :[ I know for a fact there is a copy of sardons all relinked and partly rescripted. Someone just needs to finish it off and there bam a classic quest that many people use to enjoy.

jacob_bald6225 · #4 10-23-2006, 08:36 PM

I concur.

Crono · #5 10-23-2006, 09:10 PM

Agree with max, but if classic was really that classic they wouldn't even use the current tileset.

syltburk · #6 10-23-2006, 09:43 PM

NbK FOR LYF!!! we CHANGE history!!

Luda · #7 10-23-2006, 10:09 PM

even though raymond put up a vote asking if people wanted old overworld back, majority of it people voted yes, but raymond told me we are making a new one

Minoc · #8 10-23-2006, 10:33 PM

I want the original overworld back, not the one we had in 2001-2004.
And the NBK guildhouse isn't going anywhere. :]

Crono · #9 10-23-2006, 10:38 PM

Wasn't there an OW with avalon and stuff? If so I like that one :x

it gave me inspiration to possibly lat my own town

Minoc · #10 10-24-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Wasn't there an OW with avalon and stuff? If so I like that one :x

There were two.

KuJi · #11 10-24-2006, 12:40 AM

Stop...3..2..1.. GO

Classic uses a custom tileset? o.O

Luda · #12 10-24-2006, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

I want the original overworld back, not the one we had in 2001-2004.
And the NBK guildhouse isn't going anywhere. :]

Why? is it because you kept bothering someone untill they put it up, I say it should be removed, along with the other guildhouses.

Devil · #13 10-24-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by syltburk

NbK FOR LYF!!! we CHANGE history!!

PFFT, when the HELL did you join NBK.

maximus_asinus · #14 10-24-2006, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

And the NBK guildhouse isn't going anywhere. :]

A little arrogant aren't we? You of all people should understand what I mean, but we're not on the same wavelength I guess. You preach that Classic shouldn't be altered from what it was in 2000 (or before) unless your guild is involve apparently.

jacob_bald6225 · #15 10-24-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

I want the original overworld back, not the one we had in 2001-2004.
And the NBK guildhouse isn't going anywhere. :]

I'd want classic from 2001-2004...

jake13jake · #16 10-24-2006, 06:04 AM

Well NBK --was-- going to go into the abandoned US spot. I guess not so anymore. Whatever.

Minoc · #17 10-24-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

A little arrogant aren't we? You of all people should understand what I mean, but we're not on the same wavelength I guess. You preach that Classic shouldn't be altered from what it was in 2000 (or before) unless your guild is involve apparently.

I'd be willing to give up that spot for the old overworld.

WanDaMan · #18 10-24-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Well NBK --was-- going to go into the abandoned US spot. I guess not so anymore. Whatever.

I heard Rommiel was getting that?

maximus_asinus · #19 10-24-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I heard Rommiel was getting that?

I thought I seen a guildhouse of theirs south of Graal City.

Minoc · #20 10-24-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I heard Rommiel was getting that?

It's a too major location for Rommiel.

jake13jake · #21 10-24-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan

I heard Rommiel was getting that?

I honestly have no idea.

warp2ukew · #22 10-26-2006, 06:01 AM

Just give it to Shakur

Tyhm · #23 10-26-2006, 09:42 AM

Roar, or something. *shrugs* I can't really put up a fight for My Version Of Classic anymore. I don't have the time, power, or energy to put things back the way I remember them, and even if I did someone would miss something that I thought was trivial which came about after I left...

Just...I dunno...find a map you guys like and stick with it...all these Vast Overwhelming Wipes are wrecking any sense of communal continuity that might otherwise be built.

A thought - outsides should be changed very, very rarely. Remember when Supernick's got dropped on Northern Limits, back in Nightlord's reign? Freakin' sucked, it was such a pain walking around that Sudden Pyramid.
I dunno, maybe the world needs to be sizable. Classic was just too big for its playercount when I was done with it; there were too many Levels To Explore! with nothing in 'em. Underwater was cool but underdeveloped...maybe it would be worth considering having a Huge Defined Map! and blocking most of it off with rockslides. Give you plenty of time to develop the east cape before you let people in to gasp in wonder and delight at the multitudinous nooks and crannies and miniquests and playerhouses in what would have otherwise been a sparsely populated stretch of terrain.

But again, people hate waiting for updates, so I dunno.

Crono · #24 10-26-2006, 10:05 AM

Classic's old map was suited for it's like 300 players. =[

zim5354 · #25 10-27-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Classic's old map was suited for it's like 300 players. =[

yep they should size it down

jacob_bald6225 · #26 10-27-2006, 02:40 AM

I always like the plan of expanding and adding but once something is down, don't change it or get rid of it. If you want something new in the area, pack it in. New islands are expansions, or maybe a new peninsula off the south side would be an expansion

Luda · #27 10-27-2006, 02:51 AM

Well Storm's too stubborn to change it back, even when I offered him I would work on it, and by showing him I had converted half of it already. If you are gonna keep this crappy overworld at least take out or fix the big ugly mountain and remove the guild gates.

Minoc · #28 10-27-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Luda

Well Storm's too stubborn to change it back, even when I offered him I would work on it, and by showing him I had converted half of it already. If you are gonna keep this crappy overworld at least take out or fix the big ugly mountain and remove the guild gates.

Many (probably including Storm) prefer the old overworld over the 2004 overworld. Changing it back to that wouldn't cause people to stop complaining.

Luda · #29 10-27-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

Many (probably including Storm) prefer the old overworld over the 2004 overworld. Changing it back to that wouldn't cause people to stop complaining.

I've told him I would convert that one too, he rejected it.

Tyhm · #30 10-27-2006, 10:46 PM

I think conversion is, itself, the problem. "Take the existing world, completely replace it with another one." I'm afraid gradual progress is the only answer. Same as when I had to attack the map with a staple remover - fixing one level at a time, slowly shaping the server to resemble a continent with shores and old houses and everything.
It can be fun though sometimes. As you work on the inside of a quest, have it slowly surface week by week...a bit of water gets shallower...then a cliff becomes a beach...then you can almost see the cave entrance but for the water flooding it...^_~

Minoc · #31 10-29-2006, 10:24 PM

A combination of the three versions would be the best solution.. either that or separate servers.

syltburk · #32 10-31-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil

PFFT, when the HELL did you join NBK.

waaay back brotha, do i know u? u seem frustrated

zim5354 · #33 11-02-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc

A combination of the three versions would be the best solution.. either that or separate servers.

with 12 people on each?

maximus_asinus · #34 11-02-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

with 12 people on each?

12 people on each? The current server would have 0, the next two would have around 20.

maximus_asinus · #35 12-10-2006, 07:36 PM

Sorry for reviving this thread, but it has come to my attention that there is a possibility of Burger Refuge being removed perminately. If this is true, I am starting a petition to keep Burger Refuge online. Upon confirmation of this rumor, please post your account name and alias in this thread please.

WanDaMan · #36 12-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Sorry for reviving this thread, but it has come to my attention that there is a possibility of Burger Refuge being removed perminately. If this is true, I am starting a petition to keep Burger Refuge online. Upon confirmation of this rumor, please post your account name and alias in this thread please.

Apparantly it's true

jake13jake · #37 12-10-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Sorry for reviving this thread, but it has come to my attention that there is a possibility of Burger Refuge being removed perminately. If this is true, I am starting a petition to keep Burger Refuge online. Upon confirmation of this rumor, please post your account name and alias in this thread please.

jake13jake : Massokre

Tyhm · #38 12-10-2006, 09:53 PM

Tyhm: Tyhm

maximus_asinus · #39 12-10-2006, 11:34 PM

maximus_asinus: maximus_asinus

Minoc · #40 12-10-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Sorry for reviving this thread, but it has come to my attention that there is a possibility of Burger Refuge being removed perminately. If this is true, I am starting a petition to keep Burger Refuge online. Upon confirmation of this rumor, please post your account name and alias in this thread please.

It's a false rumour.