You're going to hate this..

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Do you think this game is that elite and good enough to charge for EVERYTHING? Specially a game that was once 100% free? You do realize many of us aren't really employed and those who are probably don't get payed much anyway?

You're right, this game is aimed for 13 year olds. Now do 13 year olds have enough money to throw around or access to different things?

I object. My cousins don't have jobs and they only get money on christmas and birthdays and they each have 400 dollars in cash from 1 birthday. If they get that much they have plenty to throw around thats almost 10 times the amount needed.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I object. My cousins don't have jobs and they only get money on christmas and birthdays and they each have 400 dollars in cash from 1 birthday. If they get that much they have plenty to throw around thats almost 10 times the amount needed.

Yeah because you're not ever going to need to buy anything else if you have Graal.

I think that Graal should stop being a lazy ****ing sack of ****, and instead of taking away existing features of the game and giving them to VIP they should create new features.
Also, they could stand to lower the price of their upgrades a little bit.
If a lot more people would upgrade at a lower price then it'd be possible for Graal to increase it's revenue by actually asking for less.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

I object. My cousins don't have jobs and they only get money on christmas and birthdays and they each have 400 dollars in cash from 1 birthday. If they get that much they have plenty to throw around thats almost 10 times the amount needed.

Because they're RICH.

not everyone is parented the same god

[Damix2]

People are upset not because they have to pay, but because they are getting nothing for what they pay for. We get crap support, almost no updates, and a declining user base.

People feel like their money is going no where. Thas the problem.

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Because they're RICH.

not everyone is parented the same god

i know. They aren't rich though. Its what they get from relatives. Its a relatively small family haha the puns. I usually get 600 though. My other cousins get 200 though thats still plent. ANother of my nonsense puns: Do you want some water with that ice!!?!?!? o what now fool! D

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Minoc

I disagree, it would cause the death of too many old (and still active) guilds such as NBK, SM, SNC and Baddies.

Perhaps if it'd only be applied on newer guilds.. (since 2004/5)

You forgot about Legend.

[MrAnonymous_P2P]

Perhaps instead of getting VIP you need a guild owner upgrade.

Something that only costs like 5$

[pooper200000]

I see why he named his thread that now.... I think they should just charge what theyve been charging and add updates and maybe new guild options? Im not sure.

[Infernix]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

i know. They aren't rich though. Its what they get from relatives. Its a relatively small family haha the puns. I usually get 600 though. My other cousins get 200 though thats still plent. ANother of my nonsense puns: Do you want some water with that ice!!?!?!? o what now fool! D

My Aunt can barely afford to give me 10 dollars. Im sorry but not everyone is rich even some of out realtives.

Umm I dont like the idea, I dont make guilds and nor do I choose guilds but the fact is I see a lot of people who are goin to just ditch the entire guild system them. I dont think graal needs anymore people ditchin anything at the point in time.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Rufus

I suggest making guild owners require VIP to keep their guilds rather then just to make them

Not something that would make a whole lot of money, but it would make money. Good enough.

[Tyhm]

Methinks if there ought to be a squeeze, it ought to be the low-traffic playerworlds. They're the ones hogging the bandwidth - but you can't ask them to pay their annual subscription, partly because you've already asked the entire staff to pay (which I take exception to, but that's another story), and partly because "They're content! We can't throw away content!"

This isn't a new problem. Say LordChimp was in charge of baddies, hypothetically. Say he decided not to send any money to France because it goes against his political ideology, to put it politely. Then what happens? Do we let his second in command pay on behalf of the guild? Does that make the second in command the leader? What about someone not even in the guild, can they pay? Do they become guild leader? What if nobody's allowed to pay For Chimpy, so Baddies is suspended? Does it fall to whoever's first in line with cash in hand to form the new Baddies guild, regardless of whether they were a former Baddies officer or if they just want to sit on the guild tag and make sure their own guild runs unopposed?

Same with playerworlds. If, I dunno, Tyne's in charge of Kharlia and doesn't pay (or bring enough players in to cover costs), is his server suspended? Can his LAT Admin register his own world and recycle the material he made for Kharlia onto Valkorlia? What if Tyne scrapes the money together a month later, is Valkorlia suspended?

Mo money, mo problems.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Damix2

People are upset not because they have to pay, but because they are getting nothing for what they pay for. We get crap support, almost no updates, and a declining user base.

People feel like their money is going no where. Thas the problem.

Woah your name isn't blue anymore. How stupid!

Supernanny I don't get anything from relatives as they don't even live in this country.

[syltburk]

VERY VERY bad idea, like Minoc said the oldschool guilds will get deleted. Not to mention all familys,
stop with your dribbling talking Rufus, kthxbai

[ryu_no_bishie]

i just want my VIP tags to work on all servers