For The Selfish, For The Ignorant, And For Those Who Have Low Self Confidence... - Page 10

NightLord · #**361** 06-30-2001, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Valder

hmmm.....see that's a problem too, you are going to hire someone that is already staff, we need new, fresh people.

New people don't usually go from player to something like Bear. They need exp.

Immitat0r · #**362** 06-30-2001, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gameo

I do not preach to new players and tell them to follow me.
I choose my group of friends because we usually agree on the same things. They're not following me in anyway.

Unixmad is a complete ***** in my opinion. (hey i may get banned now watch out) He should listen to his customers' opinions. ALL OF THEM.

"good bye to the people are are rescribing you wont be missed either, all i can say is Sore Loser"

what the hell are you talking? can you try to make sense? the people who DON'T RESUBSCRIBE are NOT going to be misse? Is that what you're trying to say but can't find the words to say it? That's your opinion, and you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid of an opinion it may be.

I won't be giving any more money to this game if Mr. Bear and others are taken care of.

I agree and disagree. It sounds good to listen to your customers, but you know what it's harder than you think. Forums brought a lot of hate to graal, I think it would be better if the forums just never happened, because now people make polls about one another, and if they input on what they think, others tend to follow them. You could say ,"Be my friend and vote no." They will just to be your friend. People don't think about it anymore, other people persuade another to go there way when they have never met the person. Trueheat in my opinion was on the urge of getting banned, he would curse at people make fun of people, but not like you don't. Mr. Bear is a good admin, although he tends to not answer his questions, but he usually gets the job done. If you think he should be fired keep it to yourself, you don't need to persuade others to follow you so you can get your way.

Immitat0r · #**363** 06-30-2001, 08:58 PM

(James205)

I agree in some way, Mr. Bear got Junior GM a little to fast and maybe easy. You are not Mr. Bear so no one can say what happened. Maybe he did something good or maybe Stefan noticed he gets his jobs done. The fact is that people are following what other people think, they call the person stupid or whatever and say that person needs to be fired, the friend of course will agree. I just think it is so stupid how people listen to one another. They should follow what they think not what others think. I remember when I was Graphics Management a while ago, and Mr. Bear was the admin. We didn't sit on our asses and do nothing, we got tons of jobs, and Mr. Bear made sure we did the job. I don't care if someone replys to this and it's bad, go ahead listen to other people, but just because I have a different opinion about someone that you don't like and everyone seems to hate him except me, then you know why, it is stupid why you people listen to other people. Bye!

Archeon · #**364** 06-30-2001, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Immitat0r
(James205)

I agree in some way, Mr. Bear got Junior GM a little to fast and maybe easy.

Thats because..his sister is easy.

milotheman · #**365** 06-30-2001, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Bear

Not my doing, i never banned anyones accounts, i just unbanned Tybalt for first hand cursing without warning from geovanie, that was unfair.

Hey Mike u banned me remember, lol, then u unbanned me so it no matter

annr · #**366** 07-01-2001, 01:07 AM

ok after the 14th page i decided to stop reading the same things over and over again.
gameo has a point. a lot actually.

and i've yet to see mr bear do anything? basically i keep hearing of the things he hasn't done. (ie. change el ftp when repeatly asked)

bbb.com
i hope i'm not the only one who has filed a report.

Gameo · #**367** 07-01-2001, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by annr
bbb.com
i hope i'm not the only one who has filed a report.

excellent idea! i'll do that now

cds96 · #**368** 07-01-2001, 01:11 AM

bear and gameo have issues

NightLord · #**369** 07-01-2001, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by annr
bbb.com
i hope i'm not the only one who has filed a report.

I do not think that will do any good.

Mr. Bear · #**370** 07-01-2001, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by annr
ok after the 14th page i decided to stop reading the same things over and over again.
gameo has a point. a lot actually.

and i've yet to see mr bear do anything? basically i keep hearing of the things he hasn't done. (ie. change el ftp when repeatly asked)

bbb.com
i hope i'm not the only one who has filed a report.

Do you even know what my job is? I don't have access to change playerworld passwords.

Huggles · #**371** 07-01-2001, 01:58 AM

Okay could some one please explain to me why you want mr.bear fired and why.....

EDIT: Again please.

NightLord · #**372** 07-01-2001, 02:00 AM

There is nothing wrong with the way Michael is doing things. Only a few people have problems with him because of personal reasons, the rest just don't care as long as they can play graal and have fun. I mean, didn't we all start playing graal to have fun? I don't see why most people make such a big deal out of an admin's mistake.

Huggles · #**373** 07-01-2001, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
There is nothing wrong with the way Michael is doing things. Only a few people have problems with him because of personal reasons, the rest just don't care as long as they can play graal and have fun. I mean, didn't we all start playing graal to have fun? I don't see why most people make such a big deal out of an admin's mistake.

Aye, never did this back in the old days =/

NightLord · #**374** 07-01-2001, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles

Aye, never did this back in the old days =/

Well there were problems with Pachuka, but we didn't whine over it, we'd make pitiful attempts to PK him.

psihunter · #**375** 07-01-2001, 02:02 AM

Oh Mr. Bear post YOUR FRIGGIN STORY!
on how u got to be Junior GM

Huggles · #**376** 07-01-2001, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
Well there were problems with Pachuka, but we didn't whine over it, we'd make pitiful attempts to PK him.

Hahaha well that was different

Mr.bear and the other Staff haven't announced they will become gods and we will worship them on temples on graal yet like Azrael, Mandi, Galen, UW, Pach, Stefan

And every one knew pach was a suck up just like Az thats how they got there powers

WingDrgn · #**377** 07-01-2001, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Bear

Do you even know what my job is? I don't have access to change playerworld passwords.

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Originally posted by Mr. Bear

My Problem:

I answer over 500 icqs incoming a day from several 100 users. I answer over 3,000 RC PMS a day, change playerworld passwords, investigate playerworlds for illegal content, give unixmad a updated .txt of the staff progress, answer staff probelms with other players/staff, help head administrator fix their teams, get information on new graal version bugs, answer over 100 WEBCP REPORTS a day incoming, change playerworld ftp passwords, meet in playerworld owners, answer player requests (over 1,000 a day).

NightLord · #**378** 07-01-2001, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles
And every one knew pach was a suck up just like Az thats how they got there powers

Yeah, I remember the old Graal Gods. If I remember correctly, UW officially became one near the end of 1.1 when he beat Stefan in a spar.

Huggles · #**379** 07-01-2001, 02:09 AM

Yup they wanted cloaks, and swords.... People asked why Mandi well remember when she was Mandi The Ungoddess?

She married az that was the excuse they threw

Zol said he would quit, then every one wanted to quit.... When zol was really faking it he gave away the pass to the sacred "Elders page" which really wasnt that impressive as every one thought it would be

Gameo · #**380** 07-01-2001, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
There is nothing wrong with the way Michael is doing things. Only a few people have problems with him because of personal reasons, the rest just don't care as long as they can play graal and have fun. I mean, didn't we all start playing graal to have fun? I don't see why most people make such a big deal out of an admin's mistake.

banning someone on graal because of something done on the forums isn't a mistake
it's complete stupidity
haven't you read the log in my profile? please read everything in this thread.

NightLord · #**381** 07-01-2001, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo
banning someone on graal because of something done on the forums isn't a mistake
it's complete stupidity

I think it would make a good rule seeing as this forum is official, but seeing as it wasn't a rule Bear did make a mistake but I still think he did the right thing.

Gameo · #**382** 07-01-2001, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
I think it would make a good rule seeing as this forum is official, but seeing as it wasn't a rule Bear did make a mistake but I still think he did the right thing.

it would make a terrible, TERRIBLE rule.
it's like me making fun of you on ICQ and being banned for it.
if you do something bad on the forums then you are BANNED on the forums, not on Graal. It's ridiculous.

NightLord · #**383** 07-01-2001, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

it would make a terrible, TERRIBLE rule.
it's like me making fun of you on ICQ and being banned for it.
if you do something bad on the forums then you are BANNED on the forums, not on Graal. It's ridiculous.

ICQ and Graal are unrelated. This forum and graal are directly related.

Gameo · #**384** 07-01-2001, 02:32 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
ICQ and Graal are unrelated. This forum and graal are directly related.

no, they aren't directly related.
they are 2 seperate things.
that's why you can be banned on both.

NightLord · #**385** 07-01-2001, 02:34 AM

They are both graalonline. That's like saying PMs to/from the RC aren't related to graal...

Huggles · #**386** 07-01-2001, 02:43 AM

Mr.bear has the right motive but he mixed the bannings.. it should of been on the boards.....

Gameo · #**387** 07-01-2001, 02:48 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles
Mr.bear has the right motive but he mixed the bannings.. it should of been on the boards.....

he didn't "mix"
he knew what he was doing

NightLord · #**388** 07-01-2001, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by Gameo

he didn't "mix"
he knew what he was doing

He thought/was (depends on the eye of the beholder) doing the right thing. It's not like he knew he was doing the wrong thing.

annr · #**389** 07-01-2001, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Bear

Do you even know what my job is? I don't have access to change playerworld passwords.

go read your first post. you said you do TWICE.
you are dumb

and how can you answer over 1000 rc messages a day when there aren't even that many kids on, and not even 100 would ask so many things. i for one know my friends never talk to you, maybe because you are hardly on. its creepy how you would count the amount of messages you get.
kthxbye.

Gameo · #**390** 07-01-2001, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
He thought/was (depends on the eye of the beholder) doing the right thing. It's not like he knew he was doing the wrong thing.

common sense

annr · #**391** 07-01-2001, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
He thought/was (depends on the eye of the beholder) doing the right thing. It's not like he knew he was doing the wrong thing.

hrm he does not know what is he doing, gasp. why hire someone that does not know what they're doing.
: /

NightLord · #**392** 07-01-2001, 02:57 AM

He was probably making an educated guess.

AlkarenHyralt · #**393** 07-01-2001, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by NightLord
He was probably making an educated guess.

A guess? Bear SHOULDN'T be making guesses. He should know completely what he is doing, also I'm starting to become no longer neutral. I'm sorry bear but you lie, and have proved it by changing your story twice, as was pointed out. Bear should be removed from his postion, perhaps not fired but moved back down, perhaps back to gfx or something.

richard · #**394** 07-01-2001, 03:30 AM

hmmm....
alkarens right....
he did lie what is the staff coming too

freddyfox · #**395** 07-01-2001, 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by annr

and how can you answer over 1000 rc messages a day when there aren't even that many kids on, and not even 100 would ask so many things.

When I was the only person on as a LAT on classic, the most PM's I got in one day was 23.

BruceLee2000 · #**396** 07-01-2001, 04:07 AM

for as long as i have played graal i have probably PMed an RC about a total of 10 times. About a week ago I won an event on classic and Mr.Bear said i get a free guild, but he has yet to respond to my PMs about it

richard · #**397** 07-01-2001, 04:08 AM

then vote in my poll if you dont like staff

Huggles · #**398** 07-01-2001, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt

A guess? Bear SHOULDN'T be making guesses. He should know completely what he is doing, also I'm starting to become no longer neutral. I'm sorry bear but you lie, and have proved it by changing your story twice, as was pointed out. Bear should be removed from his postion, perhaps not fired but moved back down, perhaps back to gfx or something.

Dont know what to tell you, Galen, Stefan, Unixmad all do those kind of things daily.... I guess we should fire them to

AlkarenHyralt · #**399** 07-01-2001, 04:25 AM

Bear guessed that someone should be banned on graal because of something that they did on the forums. He should know that's not right.

Huggles · #**400** 07-01-2001, 04:31 AM

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Originally posted by AlkarenHyralt
Bear guessed that someone should be banned on graal because of something that they did on the forums. He should know that's not right.

There is no rule book to being a GM my friend, He makes the desicion he feels right.... He made it and realized it was a bad desicion and unbanned the account