A rant? More of a humane room-for-improvement thread

[Huwajux]

This thread will tell you everything that is wrong with Zone and in some cases, how it can be fixed.

Event Weapons
Too many, there are just too damn many! Events are a quick solution that should only be used when development is running a little slow. But, by God, people who I have never seen (And I've been with the community for a long time, so I know mostly everyone ) have event weapons! It's disgusting really... The main developer (Stefan) is too busy with other things that he has no time for Zone! Geez, create something else to fill content for *Thinks of rules* pete's(?) sake!

I suggest there is a new method for handing out weapons, the pistols need to be decreased in power DRAMATICALLY! Then there needs to be a new and fresh way for events to work. Reapers, they need to be powered up. They are event weapons, yet they are slower than a plasmasabre and weaker than a plasmasabre, they can shoot bullets which go about 2cm and that's it...

Lazyness
I've said it once, and I'll say it again, "The Staff are getting Lazy on playable projects". Stefan only has time to fix a few bugs here and there, so when he has to do a proper project... it all goes horribly wrong. I'm not afraid to state the weak points of Stefan, as I'm sure he won't go "OMG U R FIRED" like other people I know would, if they were in charge of me... (Gosh, that sounds kiss-arse *Shudders*) This goes for Vulcan too, I mean, look at Gwars. That's enough proof of lazyness right there!

If I was making Gwars, I would have had 2 buildings, left and right. Inside those buildings there would be little rooms with a window out the side, where mortar shells could be fired upon enemy approach. Then I would of thought more about the classes, but I digress. Back to the main point.

Please, in your next work, put in a little more effort. You guys are running around like headless chickens [/Exaggduration], you took away the most popular planet (Alpha) and replaced it with a mediocre built spar dropship.

Inactivity
Vulcan's on enough, but Stefan never even keeps the NPC server message updated. I quote the last message and what it says has been updated.

Zone (Server) (Mon Jul 03 21:17:50 2006):
For helping Zone with gfx, ideas or levels please check
out the Zone forum:
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...play.php?f=135

Weapon guide:
http://www.graalonline.com/graal2001...neweapons.html

Updates:
- An info screen is displayed when equipping
a weapon - it shows the type, ammo, number of
kills, power and your top stats place if you're
in the top 20

- Explosions are shown on the Radar!
- New map: Guilds Wars!
Two teams are fighting until no one is left. The
map is focussing on classes with different skills.
There are also several new weapons: grenade launcher,
lava gun, dart gun and blaster. Drive mechs or
fight the enemy in the new lava cave where guns
wont work.
- New bunny look at the outfit terminals

The last time it was updated was when guild wars was released...
Stefan, you need to give the players more indication on how the server is pushing forward!

Strange Acts of Staff (Typhoon -_-)
Staff need to be monitored more, including myself. Some ETs are doing stupid things such as taking part in their own events "2 GET FUN LIEK PLAYARS!!1!LOLOL". They need to realise that when they go on tag, they give up their player privaledges and become a staff member. Some aren't taking it seriously...

So please, please, please...take care of Zone! It's a great server, but at the moment it's potentional is weighed down by the above points... Don't let it waste away guys.

[Crono]

Agreed with most points.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Agreed with most points.

Care to discuss which you disagree with?

[pooper200000]

I agree with everything maybe they could make a calender and get stickers when they meet there goal but they need mroe updates i would be willing to help. Last time i pmed vulcan to see if he wanted any help he ignored me and trust em i sent that pnm 10 times in 5 days not once did he reply except the last day to say no

[Crono]

Too many, there are just too damn many! Events are a quick solution that should only be used when development is running a little slow. But, by God, people who I have never seen (And I've been with the community for a long time, so I know mostly everyone ) have event weapons! It's disgusting really... The main developer (Stefan) is too busy with other things that he has no time for Zone! Geez, create something else to fill content for *Thinks of rules* pete's(?) sake!

The effective thing to do would be to promote Vulcan or something so he can develop. That and events should be held less often. The release of event weapons should be secret as well.

I suggest there is a new method for handing out weapons, the pistols need to be decreased in power DRAMATICALLY! Then there needs to be a new and fresh way for events to work. Reapers, they need to be powered up. They are event weapons, yet they are slower than a plasmasabre and weaker than a plasmasabre, they can shoot bullets which go about 2cm and that's it...

Possibly have a temporary thing where you can exchange your event weapon for EXP/money. This way less people have event weapons and we can try to start fresh.

[pooper200000]

agreed especially the exp/money for event wepon that seems more logical thawhat we are doig now

[theHAWKER]

i agree with the pistole power decrease!!!

ex... i come in with my smg and some lamer came in and shot me with 4 shots and i die, i come bake and i shoot him 4 times to show him whos boss and the he kills me again....

[MisterMastermind]

Get over it. I hurt nobody by doing that and it isn't a major thing. One person complained and he complains about EVERYTHING. I set time and weapons without my tag on, "0mfg l1ek repor7 h1m f0r cr1m3 4ga1n57 hum@n17y!!!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneeleven."

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Get over it. I hurt nobody by doing that and it isn't a major thing. One person complained and he complains about EVERYTHING. I set time and weapons without my tag on, "0mfg l1ek repor7 h1m f0r cr1m3 4ga1n57 hum@n17y!!!!!!11111oneoneoneoneoneeleven."

Did i miss something whats your deal????

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Did i miss something whats your deal????

This guy.

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Strange Acts of Staff (Typhoon -_-)
Staff need to be monitored more, including myself. Some ETs are doing stupid things such as taking part in their own events "2 GET FUN LIEK PLAYARS!!1!LOLOL". They need to realise that when they go on tag, they give up their player privaledges and become a staff member. Some aren't taking it seriously...

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Strange Acts of Staff (Typhoon -_-)
Staff need to be monitored more, including myself. Some ETs are doing stupid things such as taking part in their own events "2 GET FUN LIEK PLAYARS!!1!LOLOL". They need to realise that when they go on tag, they give up their player privaledges and become a staff member. Some aren't taking it seriously...

Agreed with all but this... I wouldn't say he isn't taking his job seriously, as I myself haven't seen ANY problems with taking part in your own events, not that I have. If its a fun event with no prizes I fail to see the problem. But instead of posting that we need to be watched, why not do this, "Typhoon, please don't take part in your own events, thats not aloud." Saying that may do wonders...

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Agreed with all but this... I wouldn't say he isn't taking his job seriously, as I myself haven't seen ANY problems with taking part in your own events, not that I have. If its a fun event with no prizes I fail to see the problem. But instead of posting that we need to be watched, why not do this, "Typhoon, please don't take part in your own events, thats not aloud." Saying that may do wonders...

I have seen no rules stating that I can't. I don't see that it's a problem. I'm not exactly sure why you'd bring it up aside from a childish dislike of me.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

Strange Acts of Staff (Typhoon -_-)
Staff need to be monitored more, including myself. Some ETs are doing stupid things such as taking part in their own events "2 GET FUN LIEK PLAYARS!!1!LOLOL".

... I didn't bring it up, I quoted it and said I disagreed...

And clearly I don't dislike you -_-... Might I remind you of that 2 hours on July 2nd XD

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by jkool666

... I didn't bring it up, I quoted it and said I disagreed...

And clearly I don't dislike you -_-... Might I remind you of that 2 hours on July 2nd XD

Not you, huwasux.

[jkool666]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Not you, huwasux.

My bad... But he does make many other strong points that I think need to be looked into. I think that new weapons need to be added. If we add new weapons, then we won't need to give out as many event weapons

*Side note, happy mine and Heathers 5 month woot!*

[pooper200000]

For updates and new guns there are so many good gfx on zones forums its absurd it could e so great.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I have seen no rules stating that I can't. I don't see that it's a problem. I'm not exactly sure why you'd bring it up aside from a childish dislike of me.

Do I have to go through it all again? Don't spoil my thread.

There are 'no' rules about it, it is pure common sense for an ET. Without rules, the events flop and ruin the "Fun" part in "Fun Events". If there is nobody to host, there will be teaming. Where the minority who cannot find partners will suffer for it. Going "LOLOL NU RULEZ!!1! LETZ FITE!1!!" is unprofessional and goes along with what I just stated.

If you want to take part in events, ask for another ET to take over. Don't leave the events unattended. You see your rights as a party gift, no, they're not. Use them properly, I've even had reports of you warping to Gwars, choosing gwarsscout and warping back to DM with a dartgun for use for your own sake.

You see yourself as a higher staff member than you really are, I recall you saying "I've hosted more events than you."

Oh, don't be so hypocritical with this "Childish dislike" to try and ruin my reputation. Especially when you stated this:

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

huwasux

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by jkool666

Agreed with all but this... I wouldn't say he isn't taking his job seriously, as I myself haven't seen ANY problems with taking part in your own events, not that I have. If its a fun event with no prizes I fail to see the problem. But instead of posting that we need to be watched, why not do this, "Typhoon, please don't take part in your own events, thats not aloud." Saying that may do wonders...

Read my last post.

And saying "Typhoon, please don't take part in your own events, thats not allowed" is useless, I've tried it once and all I got was him acting like he's better than he is (Again). By God, the arrogance in him is as thick as mud.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

And saying "Typhoon, please don't take part in your own events, thats not allowed" is useless, I've tried it once and all I got was him acting like he's better than he is (Again). By God, the arrogance in him is as thick as mud.

I honestly see nobody aside from you trying to lecture me about it or saying it's not allowed. You are the arrogant one, you strut around with your undeserved sense of superiority. Get over yourself.

Use them properly, I've even had reports of you warping to Gwars, choosing gwarsscout and warping back to DM with a dartgun for use for your own sake.

Yes, I have done that, but I haven't competed when I was using them.

You see yourself as a higher staff member than you really are, I recall you saying "I've hosted more events than you."

You are the hypocrite for saying that, you're an ET that's all. You walk around pretending you're a god or something.

Oh, don't be so hypocritical with this "Childish dislike" to try and ruin my reputation. Especially when you stated this:

I've called you that for awhile now and you really haven't seemed to care. You state that I started that, when in fact, you started it yourself.

If I was making Gwars, I would have had 2 buildings, left and right. Inside those buildings there would be little rooms with a window out the side, where mortar shells could be fired upon enemy approach. Then I would of thought more about the classes, but I digress. Back to the main point.

Then do it yourself, seeing as you always seem to complain about "the laziness vulcan puts into making levels" and how you think you could do it better.

[Sam]

Hey guys please cool down. Flaming will end always in the same: work for mods and a closed thread.
Be nice

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I honestly see nobody aside from you trying to lecture me about it or saying it's not allowed. You are the arrogant one, you strut around with your undeserved sense of superiority. Get over yourself.Yes, I have done that, but I haven't competed when I was using them.You are the hypocrite for saying that, you're an ET that's all. You walk around pretending you're a god or something.I've called you that for awhile now and you really haven't seemed to care. You state that I started that, when in fact, you started it yourself.
Then do it yourself, seeing as you always seem to complain about "the laziness vulcan puts into making levels" and how you think you could do it better.

I don't want to quote war, so I'll say it all at once.

When have I ever strutted around with a "undeserved sense of superiority"? I help everyone I can, except those who treat me badly. I do a lot for Zone, look at all the guides I have made, some took me about an hour at least, and for what? Nothing but the fact that I think it will help the Zone community. You may see me as arrogant or whatever, maby because I do not put pretty smileys next to all my posts and in my words?

You're the one acting arrogant, you need to respect what position you're in. Trust me, being an ET is easy at first, but I wonder how you will fare if all the burdens I have are put on you... Not well, I can tell you that.

I'm an ET, that's all? I do a lot more work than you. You don't even get a vague idea of how much I am working on at the moment. Now, you keep saying I walk around acting all high and mighty, when was this? Do tell, I would love to know when I have rejected people because I have been too full of myself. My true friends know how I am and understand my point of view, it is very difficult being in my position, and it makes me upset to see you taking your job like a joke...

Started what? I made up the name in some thread about funny names, I made up Huwasux and everyone who hates me uses it against me, when I haven't done anything to them.

I'm doing CTF, which at the moment is going smoothly, I've released some screenshots and people are liking how it is going. Vulcan said they look nice aswell, what do you do for Zone? Nothing besides sitting at your desk hitting keys back and forth to walk around checking events and globalling the odd message when needed.

I don't want to make myself sound too godlike, otherwise you might have another bicker at me. But, in some ways I know you better than you know yourself. I see through you so easily in some cases.

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Sam

Hey guys please cool down. Flaming will end always in the same: work for mods and a closed thread.
Be nice

I'm not exactly flaming, I'm defending my point.

Also, thanks for a warning instead of "OMG THERE BE INSULTS ABOUT, CLOSED".

[pooper200000]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

Yes, I have done that, but I haven't competed when I was using them.

You were saying yes but haven't used them what about the pick i have of you when u were shooting me witha blaster when it wasn't an event? I believe that if you killed me i probaly have a pic of it. K i just checked i have no pic but u did atack me with blaster in dm.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

You were saying yes but haven't used them what about the pick i have of you when u were shooting me witha blaster when it wasn't an event? I believe that if you killed me i probaly have a pic of it. K i just checked i have no pic but u did atack me with blaster in dm.

I would love to see some kind of proof.

When have I ever strutted around with a "undeserved sense of superiority"? I help everyone I can, except those who treat me badly.

I myself treat everyone fairly, even those who treat me awful

I do a lot for Zone, look at all the guides I have made, some took me about an hour at least, and for what?

I've also made guides. You can't hold that above my head.

Nothing but the fact that I think it will help the Zone community. You may see me as arrogant or whatever, maby because I do not put pretty smileys next to all my posts and in my words?

You're arrogant and bossy telling me what I have and haven't done, what I can and can't do, how I can and how I can't do it.

You're the one acting arrogant, you need to respect what position you're in. Trust me, being an ET is easy at first, but I wonder how you will fare if all the burdens I have are put on you... Not well, I can tell you that.

Enlighten me, anybody can spout random crap about how stuff is so unfair, not many can prove it.

I'm an ET, that's all? I do a lot more work than you. You don't even get a vague idea of how much I am working on at the moment.

Enlighten us on what you're doing. So far I've gotten
1. ET
2. CTF

Now, you keep saying I walk around acting all high and mighty, when was this?

Every time you try to tell me how to do my job. I'm not trying to be an uptight prick and have all of the players dislike me because of it.

My true friends know how I am and understand my point of view, it is very difficult being in my position, and it makes me upset to see you taking your job like a joke...

It's a job on a game, of course I'm going to have fun with it.

Started what? I made up the name in some thread about funny names, I made up Huwasux and everyone who hates me uses it against me, when I haven't done anything to them.

You tried to lecture me for an hour or more for participating in a couple of my non prize events. Then you made the comment that I would be insulting you behind your back. I haven't lectured you once about the things you got suspended for.

I'm doing CTF, which at the moment is going smoothly, I've released some screenshots and people are liking how it is going. Vulcan said they look nice aswell, what do you do for Zone? Nothing besides sitting at your desk hitting keys back and forth to walk around checking events and globalling the odd message when needed.

I deal with hackers, I deal with angry players, I actually practice so I get better at the game, and I also host events more than once a week. Aside from that I work towards finding out all about each and every single shared account and I make it a job to report them. You sit behind your desk and play around with tilesets.

I don't want to make myself sound too godlike, otherwise you might have another bicker at me. But, in some ways I know you better than you know yourself. I see through you so easily in some cases.

Stop kidding yourself.
I am going to stop talking with you in any way possible until you stop pmsing and can talk reasonably without pretending you're better than me

[someonesomewhere]

This stuff is precisely why Zone should be on the Classic tab!

[Sulukra]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

without pretending you're better than me

Thats a bit rich coming from you, Typh.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Sulukra

Thats a bit rich coming from you, Typh.

I'd like to know when I pretended I was better.

[Sulukra]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I'd like to know when I pretended I was better.

...Too many times to count, my friend.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Sulukra

...Too many times to count, my friend.

Oh...Well you're canadian, they cant count very high.

[Raeiphon]

401 hours on Zone. 501 hours on Era.

I've seen 19 updates for Era, 2 for Zone. Zone is what I pay gold for. It's pathetic.

I quit Zone shortly after the GW release. I've inputted over 4 pages worth of ideas. One has been considered.

The server's a ruin. It's no fun anymore, it doesnt deserve to be gold.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by Raeiphon

401 hours on Zone. 501 hours on Era.

I've seen 19 updates for Era, 2 for Zone. Zone is what I pay gold for. It's pathetic.

I quit Zone shortly after the GW release. I've inputted over 4 pages worth of ideas. One has been considered.

The server's a ruin. It's no fun anymore, it doesnt deserve to be gold.

Unfortunately that's true. 'Cept I can't help but love to say I'm one of the best on a gold server.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Raeiphon

401 hours on Zone. 501 hours on Era.

But when did you start Zone?

I've seen 19 updates for Era, 2 for Zone. Zone is what I pay gold for. It's pathetic.

Updates don't always mean everything.

I quit Zone shortly after the GW release. I've inputted over 4 pages worth of ideas. One has been considered.

Some are extreme, some are good. Quiting is for pansies.

The server's a ruin. It's no fun anymore, it doesnt deserve to be gold.

It's fun for me.

[Raeiphon]

Shortly after the Zone wars update.

Updates mean a hell of alot. It's boring doing the same thing over and over again.

[pooper200000]

yah i really think more updates are needed i have played to see snowmen and cookies added little slays behiind cars then the letting of gwars to be released and the photon cannon almost being releasaed as we were told.

[Davidd]

the PC should be out i heard stefan has it in his invettory (spelt wrong)

[pooper200000]

Pc??? for in the game??

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by MisterMastermind

I myself treat everyone fairly, even those who treat me awfulI've also made guides. You can't hold that above my head. You're arrogant and bossy telling me what I have and haven't done, what I can and can't do, how I can and how I can't do it.Enlighten me, anybody can spout random crap about how stuff is so unfair, not many can prove it.Enlighten us on what you're doing. So far I've gotten
1. ET
2. CTFEvery time you try to tell me how to do my job. I'm not trying to be an uptight prick and have all of the players dislike me because of it. It's a job on a game, of course I'm going to have fun with it.You tried to lecture me for an hour or more for participating in a couple of my non prize events. Then you made the comment that I would be insulting you behind your back. I haven't lectured you once about the things you got suspended for.
I deal with hackers, I deal with angry players, I actually practice so I get better at the game, and I also host events more than once a week. Aside from that I work towards finding out all about each and every single shared account and I make it a job to report them. You sit behind your desk and play around with tilesets.Stop kidding yourself.
I am going to stop talking with you in any way possible until you stop pmsing and can talk reasonably without pretending you're better than me

That's you, not me.

I've made a lot more guides than you, not including the threads I made for staff purposes. (Is that acting superior? -_-)

Haha, that's funny. I suggested that you did not take part in your own events and you had a hissyfit over it.

Ok Typhoon, go now, make a 9x9 gmap (I think it was that, or either 7x7) not including the insides (About 11 inside levels, all huge) and placing NPCs, and then new event modes, then gani Sayian's new weapon he made, then try to find Stefan to show him the map, then go online and everyone goes on the opposite team and attacks you because they are afraid... *Inhales*

Read above statement. ^ ^ ^

I'm not uptight, I get insulted, I ignore the insulters, they get angry, insult me more, I ignore them even more, they get angry, insult me more, I try to come to terms with them, they get angry, insult me more. No matter what I try, everyone just seems to hate me for fun...

It's a professional game, fool. It's ok to have a good laugh sometimes, but when you have to do your job properly you don't muck around on an official licensed game.

I tried to point you in the correct direction. If you want, and if I am allowed, I could post the entire conversation we had, yes? Oh, and never lectured me "At least I don't quit and through a hissyfit".

Haha, make a gmap, now. Go on. Right now, and then get Stefan to release it. You think I do not deal with hackers, angry players and shared accounts? I've been doing that crap since November.

And to your last statement. The only thing worthy of it is barely a word, "Ha".

[pooper200000]

Ok im bringing this thread back up regarding the reapers comment. I think they should be made overpowered like 10 more damage than plasmasabre. This morning jkool was attacking me with his while i attacked him with a combat knife. He hit me like 5 times and i hit him 3 times with my combat knife thrown. I think it was pretty sad because hes way better why should the crappy weapon kill him when he has an event weapon?

[Davidd]

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Pc??? for in the game??

Photoncannon...

Originally Posted by pooper200000

Reapers should overpowed like 10 more damage than plas

No just make the bullets do more damage the melee is fine

[Huwajux]

Originally Posted by Davidd

Photoncannon...

No just make the bullets do more damage the melee is fine

The melee is terribly weak. It should be inbetween plasmasabre and muramasa, as should the speed.