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Old 01-04-2006, 09:16 AM
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The Zormite Religious Institution.

The Religion of Zormite
As recorded, and appended by Chaokir Jhanaki Windspirit, Celestus Matthew White XVII, and Pater Matthew White XVIII.


Eons ago, when the archipelago was one single continent, the fish people lived as one with the groundlings, and worshipped their gods, this is of a time long forgotten.

Great wars between the gods of the humans split the Earth, and cleft it in twain; in fact, all that remains are the few scattered altars of the gods remaining on the centremost part of this land mass. The once great cities honoring the gods themselves burned, and fell. The war raged on until nearly all humanity was wiped from the face of the land.

Eventually, the brutal chaos ended, with the gods wrath being confined to their realm by ancient priests long forgotten. The tumult of the war eventually caused the land mass to split, and break apart, leaving five separate islands, eventually to become known as Main, Dustari, Samurai, and Forest, as we know them today.

During the brutal wars, the fish people retreated to the sea, taking with them a select few humans who had been loyal to them. Thus, those humans were blessed with the ability to breath water, by the goddess of the fish people, Okiara.

When the tumult settled, the fish people decided to return to the land, but were shunned by the new human rulers, who had forgotten them. To the humans, these strange fish were aliens, and were to be driven out.

Thus, Okiara decided that since the fish people, and the humans who had befriended them had become used to a life of both sea and earth, that she would stir up the ocean floor from its rest and bring forth a mightly cloud of seaweed, silt, and sediment.

The fish people continued to watch in awe as this process continued for hundreds of years. They lived on, wondering what their goddess had planned for them, as they lived in the sea, looking up at the world that had betrayed them.

After a great many years, the tumult settled, and what Okiara had done had become clear. A large land mass, comprised of beaches, fields, flowing rivers, majestic mountains, and a beautiful coast had been formed.

The fish people were curious about this land, and they and their human companions started to surface, and take refuge on the new land. Eventually, this land became known as a word that was taken both from the fish language, and the humans'; Zormite.

When the people of Zormite had finally settled the land, and built up the castle, Okiara herself ascended from the depths in the form of a marlin. She appeared to a lone fisherman, sitting on the coast of what is now known as Rederil.

She passed unto him a holy orb, containing the essence of all that is Zormite. The sea, the air, the very threads that hold the nation above the depths from which it came were contained within this crystal, Okiara then gave that man - or woman, as the records have been lost - the divine right to rule over Zormite, and solidify relations with the humans of the other nations.

When Okiara returned to the sea, she promised that she would return one day when the entire world could live as Zormite does; in harmony. With that, the ruler took up arms to defend against injustice, and spread the message of peace from Zormite.

When the person, now known as the Lost Emperor, took seat on the throne of Zormite, he was given a message by Okiara that a person would be chosen to represent her, here on the surface. This person's name is lost, however, all religious leaders have been directly genealogically linked to him, or her.

So Zormite lives on to this day, waiting for the return of Okiara, and the dawn of the Sea.

The current religious system appoints priests to spread her peace. And a leader to act as a medium between her and the priests.

Until the day Okiara returns, religious leaders will always be appointed following the death of an existing leader. The name, or title may change as language does, but the institution is unchanged.

Until that day, Zormites continue to look to the sea.
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I'd still like to know what happened to the Holy Zorist. :-/
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how did the religion of zormite's history completely change

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(( The History changed because each of the pre-existing Zormite religious leaders had a different version of it. And, because of previous inept leadership, lots of the documents were lost, and little attempt was made to preserve the history. This is the story as melded together from the only three that are left intact. ))
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:08 PM
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(( Perhaps something a little less vague, redudnant, and unconstructive would serve as a better post in the future. ))
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Zormite's changed. I don't like a kingdom that allows 'KNOWN' scammers into the kingdom. I've tried to give new Zormite a chance, but when they've accused me of scamming I look at it different.
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:34 PM
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Old 01-04-2006, 09:46 PM
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I am the foremost person on the Zormite history, religion, and culture. I deem your religion not OK by the Zormite foundation. Try again.
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Old 01-04-2006, 10:10 PM
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(( Nappa, what problem do you actually have with this religious story? In interest of maturity, and keeping a certain level of professionalism, if any of you have any comments on the actual story, please let me know. As I explained, no, this is not the original history, but rather, it is an amalgamation of several versions of the original history that I have recieved. It makes perfect sense to all of them, and fits with the story of graal itself. Any further inquiries PLEASE stay on topic and be specific. ))
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The only problem people have with it is that you've rewritten what has already been written and standardized. I don't get why it is nowadays people are trying to write new histories or wipe things out of existence. Look this stuff up before you choose to write a completely different version.
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I've already stated it's an amalgamated history.
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Zormite's changed. I don't like a kingdom that allows 'KNOWN' scammers into the kingdom. I've tried to give new Zormite a chance, but when they've accused me of scamming I look at it different.
Dustari is all I have to say to that. There are alot of nice people in there but are also a few bad apples.
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I'm not too sure who's a 'bad apple' in Dustari, anyhow let's stick on topic.
So, what're the plans for Zormite to find Okiara?
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All what has been handed down has said is that she will return when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do. We as priests assume this means when all wars have ended, and the archipelago lives in peace.
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Zormite won't live in harmony. You've allready began a war with Samurai.
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I'm not too sure who's a 'bad apple' in Dustari, anyhow let's stick on topic.
So, what're the plans for Zormite to find Okiara?
I don't want to say names because of the bickering I would most likly hear and some of them are cool people except for the Scamming.
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Who is it that's saying we're going to bring back Okiara?

You're really starting to rub my fur the wrong way, Andrew.
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Who is it that's saying we're going to bring back Okiara?
Who said that someone said that you're bringing back Okiara?

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when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do.
That's what Andrew commented on.

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All what has been handed down has said is that she will return when the world lives in harmony as the Zormite do. We as priests assume this means when all wars have ended, and the archipelago lives in peace.
It must be fun to magically ignore the constant internal conflict that is indicative of the Empire's very exsistance: the Sahuagin, the Zaeri, and now Humanity aren't going to coexsist peacefully. They all want a corner of the power for themselves.

That being said, the main problem I can find with your interpretation of the religion is that you've warmed up Monday's meatloaf and mixed it into Tuesday's left over spagetti noodles with Wednesday's stale french bread. If you're going to create an amalgamation, it can only be as good as it's parts, and none of those iterations of Zormitian religion were very good. If your only excuse is that there was no documentation, why not go to a LIVE source?
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While that may be true, what I meant about living in harmony, is the Zormites and the humans. Okiara's return is heralded when the nations are in harmony with one another as the fish people and the humans live together in harmony on Zormite.

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Your comments are well founded, but as the religious leader, this is what I was taught by our elders, our historians, and our archives. If the problem is with Zormite history's interpretation in general, it is as useless to discuss as whether or not Catholicism is more correct than Anglicism, Protestantism, etc. On such things I will not comment.
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Your comments are well founded, but as the religious leader, this is what I was taught by our elders, our historians, and our archives. If the problem is with Zormite history's interpretation in general, it is as useless to discuss as whether or not Catholicism is more correct than Anglicism, Protestantism, etc. On such things I will not comment.
However, you have to opportunity now to further rectify this by at least learning of and possibly integrating the older and unwritten Zormitian oral traditions, given that your predecessors are all quite vociferous about it when asked. The current iteration of the Zormitian faith seems not only muddled, but dedicated to mutual appeasment in the form of such a gestalt.
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(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ))
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It sucks to see so many negative comments. I'm so proud to be in the only Kingdom that is actually doing posts like this and working hard. The only problem I have with Zormite is that some of the Serf's get on my nerves but besides that I love it.
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(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ))
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(( Gryffon. Largely my predecessors are unreachable, for a variety of reasons, with the exception of Jhanaki. Other than that, I do not know any of the others. Jhanaki has been Chaokir since Zen, and was doing a fine job. He left when Wren entered, then I entered and had to remove his account as Chaokir. Beyond that, we redid the ranks. The nature of this nation is one of change, and I've appended that as best I can. Mutual appeasment is not a terrible way to describe this, considering I'm trying to be all inclusive of several people with very different stories. I urge you to point out specific flaws, otherwise, ))
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Everyone else is mainly full of crap, you must remember that the leaders of the 2k2 Zormite nation were elected through a popularity contest. So then Toran was elected as the Emperor in which he decreed that the Zormites magically became humans (your history officially records Zen as the first human leader however). He had two advisors: Hippie and Zen. Toran quit, Hippie took control and said that Zormite would go back to traditions and back to a fish-only club again. Zen pulled his weight (as he is/was Global GFX Admin of Graal) and took the leadership role for himself, in which he said that Zormite would be all human and moreso, it would become a "Republic" which utterly destroyed anything Zormite held within. The Zormite history that you know of starts there, the history you know is basicly a false testiment to any kind of Zormite lore.

Moreso, I just want to call your religious stuff wrong. Zormite isn't some European Theocracy, it's a Zormite Theocracy. There's a difference.


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Googi - Fix it, Hiryuu made all the history up to himself, then from Zardogan to Zarnage it was written by Chris Kill'em. From there on out I wrote it with help from Nappa. Or I found those Emperors to help me out.

Brad - You can add your own little thing there. But quite frankly, and dont get mad at me, nothing happened during your reign (plus the fact that it lasted about a week or two). I know we sat at the throne room and that's about it. I also didn't include the other Emperors-for-a-week because there were so many of them, they didn't do anything important or notable, and I dont even remember the huge list that encompasses them. This time is generally refered to as the Zormite dark age, where there was a new leader every week and the maximum player count for Zormite was three people (offline and online).
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it would become a "Republic" which utterly destroyed anything Zormite held within.
It's legitimate for leader to make a kingdom into a republic (even though we don't like it), although changing the race (to human or to drow) is powergaming.
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It's legitimate for leader to make a kingdom into a republic (even though we don't like it), although changing the race (to human or to drow) is powergaming.
Granted, but when Rome converted from its Republic to its Monarchy it didn't become China.
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