PNG Editor

[talkingnoodle]

Does anyone know a good free program that saves '.png' files that actually WORK with Graal?

[Butz]

At the very least, you could save as a .gif, then use the gif2mng program in the graal directory.

Instant png/mng.

[talkingnoodle]

When I use MSPaint and save as '.gif' the color quality is horrible

[gozen]

in the non-graal related forums there is a list of free programs for things like graphic design, you should find it there

[talkingnoodle]

Originally Posted by gozen

in the non-graal related forums there is a list of free programs for things like graphic design, you should find it there

I tried there, they all are useless to me x_X

[gozen]

um, try again? i knowm you can make gifs from some of those editors

[haro41]

if your using graal v4. any png will work with graal.
if your not using v4, then you need to save your png in 8bit mode. 256 colors.

[Angel_Light]

about the MSpaint problem, MSPaint saves as .GIF which is the smallest memory usuage and the SMALLEST Bit map. when you increase those that's when .GIF turns into .gif

[Codein]

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[Butz]

Originally Posted by talkingnoodle

I tried there, they all are useless to me x_X

The Gimp can definitely do what you're asking.

As a very last resort, you could open the BMP you get from MSPaint in Irfanview, then save it as a gif that can be gif2mng'd

Personally, I'd use the Gimp though.

[davidpsy]

If you don't know how to use gif2mng just ask.

[talkingnoodle]

Originally Posted by davidpsy

If you don't know how to use gif2mng just ask.

i think i do...do you drag an image into the program?

[talkingnoodle]

Originally Posted by Butz

The Gimp can definitely do what you're asking.

As a very last resort, you could open the BMP you get from MSPaint in Irfanview, then save it as a gif that can be gif2mng'd

Personally, I'd use the Gimp though.

i dont like that program its confusing to me

[gozen]

i heard kidpix is good

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by gozen

i heard kidpix is good

that would be a good start with him. Then he could learn how to save pngs in mspaint...

[Butz]

Originally Posted by Nabru

that would be a good start with him. Then he could learn how to save pngs in mspaint...

MSPaint only saves PNGs as 24 bit PNGs.

He needs 8 Bit PNGs in order for them to work in older versions of Graal.

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Angel_Light

about the MSpaint problem, MSPaint saves as .GIF which is the smallest memory usuage and the SMALLEST Bit map. when you increase those that's when .GIF turns into .gif

I seriously hope you were joking about this.

[Skrobo2]

Serif PhotoPlus 6.0
Google it

It's a free program that is a lot like Paint Shop Pro
You can export many different file types and it has useful tools
And since v2 is going to be dsabled (or has been already?) and everyone will be using v4 so using 24 bit pngs will be possible now
I've been exporting 8 bit gifs and using the gif2mng converter to get pngs since this program doesnt give you the option of exporting an 8 bit png
I hope you find this program useful
I know I have

[petro1212]

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[OasaTor_PK]

Rawr, if you use paint, heres what I do yo.

save it as a 24bit bmp. Get Giffy, you can set the transparency here too, and save it as a gif using giffy. Then, use the GIF2MNG from the graal setup. This is how I do all my graphics :]

Also, sinse a while ago people were having trouble finding giffy, ill temporarily put it on my vip hosting :]

http://oasator_pk.vip.graal.net/giffy.zip