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Old 07-20-2005, 05:09 AM
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I say good riddance. Less idiots jeopardizing paid members stats, because they get a few lucky shots in after you just battled someone with actual talents.

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Old 07-20-2005, 05:26 AM
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They should put their hp back.. just lower the amount of ammo they can have and make them not be able to buy the things in the misc sing, and then make the prices to buy things for them a little higher.

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I say good riddance. Less idiots jeopardizing paid members stats, because they get a few lucky shots in after you just battled someone with actual talents.
If you had talent then you would of killed them. It's not their fault that you and others can't play as good as them.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:54 AM
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Dip****, right after I owned you on a trial, and you had a damned plasmasabre. I think you should refrain from speaking.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:35 AM
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Dip****, right after I owned you on a trial, and you had a damned plasmasabre. I think you should refrain from speaking.
Dream on I never got owned on that game, maybe during the weeks days when I have trial on gold server. If you get owned by trials then you should refrain from speaking. Being trial doesn't suck, and its easy to kick ass even though you have 80 hp.
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:54 AM
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First of all yes i realize stefan is trying to run a buisness. But tell me this much, (this is just an example) If your favorite store began to raise their prices alot and their was another store just down the road (a different online game) and the store down the road had the same items for lower prices which would you go to, keeping in mind that your favorite store just made you angry (*** example i know lol)
However the simple fact remains that
1) Graal aint raising it's prices
2) The store down the road aint selling the same thing
3) You're angry at your favorite store for giving free stuff to people you dont know, yet you pay a subscription to get stuff on an interval basis?
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:14 PM
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Anyway I say give the Trials 100 hp, but let them have restricitions on a few weapons, a few good and a few bad ones. also you could restrict trials to olny buy 2 medipacks instead of 5.

i like these ideas...maybe they should not can use ap pirces?._. only an idea....
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Old 07-20-2005, 03:23 PM
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Things will be changed once the new guest accounts thing will be started. Also a lot of things are in preparation for Zone, several new weapons are already done and will be added soon, events will be hold for new event items, new maps are being worked on for guild fights and for ctf, and the missions are also making progress.
May be the speeders should be disabled for now and be reserved for a new map?
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:44 PM
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However the simple fact remains that
1) Graal aint raising it's prices
2) The store down the road aint selling the same thing
3) You're angry at your favorite store for giving free stuff to people you dont know, yet you pay a subscription to get stuff on an interval basis?
What my point was isnt about graal raising prices its not.... and also the store down the road would be another online game as an example Runescape I used to play that, and ya im not saying i have a problem about graal its that trial players might. nvm lol now u confused me
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:07 PM
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Things will be changed once the new guest accounts thing will be started. Also a lot of things are in preparation for Zone, several new weapons are already done and will be added soon, events will be hold for new event items, new maps are being worked on for guild fights and for ctf, and the missions are also making progress.
May be the speeders should be disabled for now and be reserved for a new map?
Thats a good plan but the speeders shouldn't be disabled.. They get destroyed easily, even though they move fast they have 80 hp and die easily.
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:14 PM
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What my point was isnt about graal raising prices its not.... and also the store down the road would be another online game as an example Runescape I used to play that, and ya im not saying i have a problem about graal its that trial players might. nvm lol now u confused me
That game is more expensive than Graal Gold subscription though, not to speak of Graal Classic Membership
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:31 PM
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Lol i know it sux. Hense i play graal .
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Old 07-20-2005, 07:36 PM
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I think if the flying on the speeders was gone and they were like the old ones and shot bullets it would be better.
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Old 07-21-2005, 12:43 AM
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What my point was isnt about graal raising prices its not.... and also the store down the road would be another online game as an example Runescape I used to play that, and ya im not saying i have a problem about graal its that trial players might. nvm lol now u confused me
I know what you mean...
Runescape is cheaper at first, but if you want to keep yer nifty status, thats $5 a month for who knows how long...
Rs is pretty good anyways though...
F2ps can keep their junk, they just dont get dragon items and such junk, or other quests...

Stefan, not trying to sound contrary, but rs is cheaper, in a way...
If you consider most of the servers there as classic, and the members and gold and the other types, the f2ps there get a better deal. they dont lose stats when they log off, they keep it. they just dont get quests... Its kinda like p2p for classic servers, but then you get gold servers... $5 a month for rs, but about 5 1/3 a month for graal 3 months. True, its cheaper after 3 months, but the rs members seem to get more for their money...

If yuo consider this , tell me, or ignore it...
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:21 AM
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hehe, it looks like graal has a competion
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:46 AM
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Runescape MUST be doing somthing right..... today i went on just to see how many ppl play... They have about 20 MEMBERS ONLY servers with about over 1300 people in each of them.... Maybe because their trial players arnt introduced to things that are eventually taken away.... And also when i got good at that game i imediatly wanted to be a member. So maybe that will apply for graal to the better you get the more you will want to upgrade...
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:51 AM
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maybe because the quests last for a few days.. the member servers have tons of quests that will take a few months to do. Us? Nah heck no we just do 1 hour and we're done.
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Old 07-21-2005, 05:09 AM
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lol .
Still graal has guns (some servers anyways) and i think that i will NEVER play that game when all that stuff it released that wuz said to be released
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:48 AM
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:54 AM
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Runescape MUST be doing somthing right..... today i went on just to see how many ppl play... They have about 20 MEMBERS ONLY servers with about over 1300 people in each of them.... Maybe because their trial players arnt introduced to things that are eventually taken away.... And also when i got good at that game i imediatly wanted to be a member. So maybe that will apply for graal to the better you get the more you will want to upgrade...
Except graal isn't just one overall thing put across many servers (which only exist so one server doesn't get overloaded). Graal would have to be more centralized for that to happen or have one really popular, actually good, server with hundreds of people on it.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:43 PM
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Except graal isn't just one overall thing put across many servers (which only exist so one server doesn't get overloaded). Graal would have to be more centralized for that to happen or have one really popular, actually good, server with hundreds of people on it.
We can fuse all the servers together...and make...ONE ULTRA MEGAZORD SERVER!



(That's the third time I've made reference to the Megazord in 2 days...It must be a calling.)
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:52 PM
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KK well the best thing i think we can make items that are good like plasma sabers or blue rifles and i don't know why people think blue rifle is cheap i can easy take it out with the smg best way is to take away the 80 hp rule and give them 100 or this server will die and be replaced by another
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Old 07-21-2005, 06:14 PM
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I never really got into Zone. It isn't really "Graal" and I don't like the fact that there isn't really anything to do aside from kill kill kill. I mean, Counterstrike is successful because it's an excellent first person shooter. Zone is nothing like CS and can't really be compared to it on ANY level.

I agree that the solution to the problem is not going to be solved by giving Trials MORE freedom. I think once they implement the "friend can pay for your upgrade" feature, then it will bring more upgrades to Graal. Most people just don't have a way of paying for the upgrade, even if they have the money and want to. Either because they have no way to do it, or it's too much work.

Trial use is exactly what the name implies. It's a trial. It's to test the game, to see if you like the game... not to play the game for months on end and never upgrade. It's not a "free" mode, which I think most people confuse it as. A pay per month think might work though... if it were cheap enough. Some people might not want to be committed to the game for 6 months to a year. Especially a game like Zone where there isn't really any benefit to reserving gold for 6-12 months. If it's like 40 a year for gold, they could sell monthly subscriptions for like $3.
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Old 07-21-2005, 07:16 PM
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Old 07-21-2005, 08:30 PM
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I agree that the solution to the problem is not going to be solved by giving Trials MORE freedom. I think once they implement the "friend can pay for your upgrade" feature, then it will bring more upgrades to Graal. Most people just don't have a way of paying for the upgrade, even if they have the money and want to. Either because they have no way to do it, or it's too much work.
Thats a good idea... one of my friends wants to upgrade, but his parents wont let him, so if a friend(me?) were able to pay fro him, that could really get people getting gold and VIP.
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pay per month think might work though... if it were cheap enough. Some people might not want to be committed to the game for 6 months to a year. Especially a game like Zone where there isn't really any benefit to reserving gold for 6-12 months. If it's like 40 a year for gold, they could sell monthly subscriptions for like $3.
Thats a good idea too...
You can go for 3 months too, but what if you want gold/VIP for just one month? Then you have 2 extra months of wasted time...
O, currently on RS, there are 131740 people online...
I'm wiling to bet that servers 1 and 2 are loaded.
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I agree that the speeders must be disabled on zone wars and be putted in a ne map.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:12 PM
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I agree that the speeders must be disabled on zone wars and be putted in a ne map.
On the new Guild Wars map only pilots will be able to use them.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:51 PM
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A server where the only thing to do is play the same 4-5 events over and over again is doomed to fail.
Yeah. All those 24/7 dust maps in CS are empty.
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:44 AM
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well just found out that when/if my armor is released, all of the rest of my trial friends will be quitting PLZ give them there hp back
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:39 AM
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Except graal isn't just one overall thing put across many servers (which only exist so one server doesn't get overloaded). Graal would have to be more centralized for that to happen or have one really popular, actually good, server with hundreds of people on it.
So??? Graal has about 1k ppl "at most" On EVERY one of its servers right now...... Runescape has about 2k people on "1" of its servers now.... and also thats ALL members not half members half trials...
But still graal owns it lol
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:26 AM
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Yeah. All those 24/7 dust maps in CS are empty.
Yeah. Since Graal and Counterstrike are the EXACT SAME THING. Man, I feel so enlightened.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:32 AM
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On the new Guild Wars map only pilots will be able to use them.

ah that's nice.
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:31 PM
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Yeah. Since Graal and Counterstrike are the EXACT SAME THING. Man, I feel so enlightened.
Same with Starcraft and countless other games. It is not impossible to engineer a game which has a good replay value. Even Diablo II was replayed alot and it was definately repetitive.

If the proper amount of time and effort were spent on a flagship server, Graal would be much better off.
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If the proper amount of time and effort were spent on a flagship server, Graal would be much better off.
That's the point I was trying to make :|
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:33 AM
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zone isnt dying cause of the new rules it just getting boring.....i started playing about the same time gambet and tao were the best it got so boring......if u noticed all the good ppl quit riley....tao....gambet.......muroku......firebox.. ....silos......and now me
because it got boring so fast
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:43 PM
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if u noticed all the good ppl quit riley....tao....gambet.......muroku......firebox.. ....silos......and now me
because it got boring so fast
Tao(SIWIN) lat i knew ran out of gold...

And... you?


GOOD people, you say?

then why are you on the list?
And Gambet just never goes on player
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:03 PM
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Tao(SIWIN) lat i knew ran out of gold...

And... you?


GOOD people, you say?

then why are you on the list?
And Gambet just never goes on player
Yes jin is good, Swine does have p2p also he plays GK and i see him on there
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:29 PM
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Dangit, you werent supposed to quote me!!!
Siwin does have gold? hmmm...
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:00 AM
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dude the post it just saying good ppl quit....when jesse is the best he will problly stop playing zone as much....cause it just gets boring
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:19 PM
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Speaking of people quitting, why don't I ever see you on any more Sayian?
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Old 07-25-2005, 09:29 PM
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zone is stupid now 2 many newbs think they r good only ppl i think r good r: me...stormy...trojan......ice.....touya....jesse.. ..ace.....and towelie
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