See you, space cowboy

[davidpsy]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Good god, man. Either back it up or stop repeating it.

If you cannot see what I mean, then forget it.

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Ugh. It's like wading through tar. Demonstrate that these events would fit the definition of the word 'unfair'.

Unfair = Not just

In my opinion it would be unjust.

I'm done with this.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by davidpsy

If you cannot see what I mean, then forget it

Your meaning isn't the problem. You've repeated your little mantra enough times to ensure that. No, the problem is that you're throwing insults and assertions without any backing whatsoever. You're making accusations and then yelling that I don't understand whenever I challenge you to support them.

Unfair = Not just

And now you're just hiding one definition behind another.

The word 'just', as a synonym of 'fair', means unbiased, even-handed, in accordance with rules. Does this conflict with the reasons behind VT's ban?

You really shouldn't argue semantics with me, Donald. It's one of my strongest suits and one of your weakest.

[Velox Cruentus]

Donald, you're at loss here. Give it up before you lose too much.

Kaimetsu... You have a special skill to direct whatever the thread subject is to something completely different.

Myself... I should stop dictating to other people.

And VT... Bring us news from time to time what happens to you. I wouldn't want to hear that you got in a car acciedent when you should have been busy playing a relitively safe game (in comparision to other life activities)!

Hrm... Let's see... Anything else? I don't believe so.

[NeoJenova]

Originally Posted by Nappa

I don't understand why you can't have both.

w3rd ^

Cya VampiricTutor!

Good and Horrible times on UN with you. Keep pimpin!

[xAndrewx]

PT is VT? o_o

[Shiftk03-]

Who was the nerd that kept saying I lost my relationships because of Graal? Girls come and go. I'm with the right one now though. Ya'll act like you've never dated before. That or you just aren't on my level of game-spitting. GET ON MY LEVEL!
Good riddance to the thread owner.

[Velox Cruentus]

Originally Posted by Shiftk03-

Stuff

I did.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Shiftk03-

Who was the nerd that kept saying I lost my relationships because of Graal? Girls come and go. I'm with the right one now though.

How much are you paying her?

(Might as well abuse what time I have left attacking my attackers)

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Originally Posted by protagonist

How much are you paying her?

(Might as well abuse what time I have left attacking my attackers)

attack gambet extra hard.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Your points give me the impression that just because you work(ed) for Graal Online, that you should get special priviledges.

You're right so far, but I don't think you are correct on the whole.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Sure, you paid for an account upgrade, just like the rest of us do, but just because you work(ed) for Graal Online, does not mean that you don't have to follow the same rules we all have to follow. You broke the rules, so you were banned. You're complaining that you were banned while working for Graal Online, yeah, so what? We all have to follow the same rules.

That's fine. I have no problem with being banned. The fact is, it is a combination of paying for an account, spending my "graal time" working, and then not even being able to get any sort of moneys worth from it.

Originally Posted by Gambet

It's a shame that some globals actually feel they could act as they wish and not get punished for innapropriate behavior. What really makes me think, is that not only did VT break the forum rules, but then he complains that him getting banned from the forums was wrong, especially since he worked for Graal Online.

It's a shame stupid people inhabit the earth. Because then they have children, who I have to talk to.
Once again, it is not solely being banned from the forums. It is being banned and paying for Graal, which everyone does, but everyone does not work for Graal. I should have had a free account, in other words, like several global staff members do.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Then he complains that he never got debug access. Now, I'm not saying that globals shouldn't get debug access, but what does debug have to do with your work as a PWA? Debug is just a replica of GK, where GK work is done. Why would you need debug access, other then to talk to the other staff? For that you use email.

Have you tried emailing Stefan? He's a busy man. If I need something done that is urgent, it is far easier to go talk to Stefan on debug than trying to email him. Once again, you are shortsighted.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Then he complains that since he had no forum access, he couldn't do his PWA work. Oh really? I believe they invented things such as email, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, etc. Why would you need to post things on the forums? If you needed anything posted on the forums, then you could've spoken to the higher staff for permission for someone else to post something for you.

1) Posting on the forums for someone else is illegal. If you suggest that it isn't for higher staff, then I guess I really would be getting special treatment.
2) Email, AIM, MSN and Yahoo are great, except people don't use those all of the time and email is regularly spammed. Since you aren't a global, you wouldn't know that 99% of the email I used to get was spam, and AIM/MSN/Yahoo are not great when you need to leave someone a message.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Your complaints are not very good at all.

They're just fine. Your poor interpretation is, as suggested, poor.

[ZanderX]

If it is your wish to leave, I can make it happen.

Permanently.

Just say the words.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Nappa

As for dropping girls, Rabid is a man of many mysteries. People dump people over many different reasons all the time. Just because he plays graal and dumps a girl doesn't mean he did it because he plays graal.

I've been with my girlfriend over a year and things are only getting better. Based on his[Rabid's] own admissions, I must be doing something right which he doesn't know about, so who is he to criticize my reasons? For the last year, I've done Graal too. The fact is, Graal hasn't really treated me well enough to keep it up when I could be putting that time toward someone who actually cares about me.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by ZanderX

If it is your wish to leave, I can make it happen.

Permanently.

Just say the words.

What if I say the words ?

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by ZanderX

If it is your wish to leave, I can make it happen.

Permanently.

Just say the words.

Don't worry, when my account runs out, I'm not re-upgrading.

I realized that I'm actually cheating myself out of what I payed for if I don't make use of what time I have left, so I might as well counterbash.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Nappa

What if I say the words ?

Just say them and lets find out.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Nappa

What if I say the words ?

Yea, ban him too.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Don't worry, when my account runs out, I'm not re-upgrading.

I realized that I'm actually cheating myself out of what I payed for if I don't make use of what time I have left, so I might as well counterbash.

Bash and make valid arguments are two different things. Then again, you wouldn't know that.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Yea, ban him too.

I have the ban hammer protection suit. Noone can break my defences.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Just say them and lets find out.

Someone ban VT permanently, or something.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Nappa

I have the ban hammer protection suit. Noone can break my defences.

): (And holy crappo at the double posting going on in this thread)

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by protagonist

It's a shame stupid people inhabit the earth. Because then they have children, who I have to talk to.
Once again, it is not solely being banned from the forums. It is being banned and paying for Graal, which everyone does, but everyone does not work for Graal. I should have had a free account, in other words, like several global staff members do.

If you want free gold time, then you should earn it. I know of many people that have earned free gold, and even some have earned a life time of gold, but the thing is that they earned it. You dont just get special priviledges when you are hired. A lot of people that have earned free gold are not even global, but they have earned it. You can't expect them to give give give, when you don't earn it.

Originally Posted by protagonist

Have you tried emailing Stefan? He's a busy man. If I need something done that is urgent, it is far easier to go talk to Stefan on debug than trying to email him. Once again, you are shortsighted.

If email is the only way of contacting Stefan, well, then that's a pretty big problem, especially for globals.

Originally Posted by protagonist

1) Posting on the forums for someone else is illegal. If you suggest that it isn't for higher staff, then I guess I really would be getting special treatment.
2) Email, AIM, MSN and Yahoo are great, except people don't use those all of the time and email is regularly spammed. Since you aren't a global, you wouldn't know that 99% of the email I used to get was spam, and AIM/MSN/Yahoo are not great when you need to leave someone a message.

1) Did you read what I said at all? I said GET PERMISSION FROM HIGHER STAFF FIRST. If you get permission, then by all means it would be very legal. You wouldn't be getting special treatment, you would just be having someone post up your work since you wouldn't be able to at the time. Also, you are not the only PWA member. If you needed something done that you couldn't do due to lack of rights or lack of being able to post on the forums or lack of being able to contact someone, then you should've spoken to the rest of your team about it. You really dont seem like a "team player", and from what you've said, you just joined the team to get special priviledges and rights, which I find sad.

Originally Posted by protagonist

They're just fine. Your poor interpretation is, as suggested, poor.

I interpreted them just fine. It's not my fault your greed has overcome you.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

): (And holy crappo at the double posting going on in this thread)

I don't do that. I read the forums in the view of a man! (aka hybrid)

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Nappa

I don't do that. I read the forums in the view of a man! (aka hybrid)

Ah, sorry. The layout selection slipped my mind.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Ah, sorry. The layout selection slipped my mind.

Someday you will come to the darkside, young padiwon.

[Zero Hour]

I believe we've hijacked this thread, Nappa.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

I believe we've hijacked this thread, Nappa.

We must be good like that. Logging off forums though now, BYE

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Gambet

If you want free gold time, then you should earn it. I know of many people that have earned free gold, and even some have earned a life time of gold, but the thing is that they earned it. You dont just get special priviledges when you are hired. A lot of people that have earned free gold are not even global, but they have earned it. You can't expect them to give give give, when you don't earn it.

I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

Originally Posted by Gambet

If email is the only way of contacting Stefan, well, then that's a pretty big problem, especially for globals.

It wouldn't be if I had been given debug. I told you that already.

Originally Posted by Gambet

1) Did you read what I said at all? I said GET PERMISSION FROM HIGHER STAFF FIRST. If you get permission, then by all means it would be very legal. You wouldn't be getting special treatment, you would just be having someone post up your work since you wouldn't be able to at the time. Also, you are not the only PWA member. If you needed something done that you couldn't do due to lack of rights or lack of being able to post on the forums or lack of being able to contact someone, then you should've spoken to the rest of your team about it. You really dont seem like a "team player", and from what you've said, you just joined the team to get special priviledges and rights, which I find sad.

You've never worked with me. Why don't you ask some of the other team members before you make stupid, blind statements?

Originally Posted by Gambet

I interpreted them just fine. It's not my fault your greed has overcome you.

I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by protagonist

I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

Congratulations, and most of us oldbies have worked hard for over 4 years. So, what will you tell me, that we havn't worked for Graal Online? Well, if you think about it, we very much have. If it wern't for the servers that the players made, then Graal Online would not be very successful. Do we have the "title" of working with Graal Online? No, we don't, but each and every developer does work for the company in some way or another.

Originally Posted by protagonist

It wouldn't be if I had been given debug. I told you that already.

There should be other means of contacting Stefan then just debug. Either way, it's still a problem.

Originally Posted by protagonist

You've never worked with me. Why don't you ask some of the other team members before you make stupid, blind statements?

What's your job? PWA. I don't need to work with/for you to have to know how you work. Your job is with the players, not with your teammates. You should be showing the players how well you are, not your own teammates. If most graalians are clueless as to who you are or let alone what you have done to contribute to the game, well, then that's a major problem. If you can't show me how well you can do your job, then I guess that means you are not very good at it.

Originally Posted by protagonist

I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

If only I knew what work this was. I've seen about one or two reviews from you. I don't think you've worked enough to go rambling that you've been in the team for nearly two years, because you've contributed enough work to bloat for only a good month or two.

[ZanderX]

Originally Posted by protagonist

I worked hard as a PWA for one and a half years.

Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

Originally Posted by protagonist

I expected to have some gratification for my work. I got none.

So do you not have a real paying job or something? Because you should get used to this really soon.

[Zero Hour]

You knew that you were volunteering when you signed up, right? So what's the big surprise? Doesn't make much sense to me.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by ZanderX

Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

Heck, I've worked harder then he has, and I don't expect anything in return. I've been doing "PWA" work most of my time on Graal, but I don't do it to get something in return, I do it for the players. It seems VT just wants special priviledges, which is why he joined the team.

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Heck, I've worked harder then he has, and I don't expect anything in return. I've been doing "PWA" work most of my time on Graal, but I don't do it to get something in return, I do it for the players. It seems VT just wants special priviledges, which is why he joined the team.

Yea, FAQ positions are really tough. Try managing two servers, and financing a third. At the same time, where the financed one has yet to be fixed, even though I lodged a complaint the day I purchased it, over a month ago

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Congratulations, and most of us oldbies have worked hard for over 4 years. So, what will you tell me, that we havn't worked for Graal Online? Well, if you think about it, we very much have. If it wern't for the servers that the players made, then Graal Online would not be very successful. Do we have the "title" of working with Graal Online? No, we don't, but each and every developer does work for the company in some way or another.

Haha. Us oldbies?
How about this:
Picture yourself a global admin. People message you all the time. You give out your only personal instant messenger screen name so that you can address issues ASAP. You are pretty much on-duty every second you're on the computer. That's me.
It takes a great deal of patience to listen to some of these people and solve their problems, especially when they can be so silly.

Originally Posted by Gambet

There should be other means of contacting Stefan then just debug. Either way, it's still a problem.

Okay, so now you're agreeing?

Originally Posted by Gambet

What's your job? PWA. I don't need to work with/for you to have to know how you work. Your job is with the players, not with your teammates. You should be showing the players how well you are, not your own teammates. If most graalians are clueless as to who you are or let alone what you have done to contribute to the game, well, then that's a major problem. If you can't show me how well you can do your job, then I guess that means you are not very good at it.

Uh, you said I wasn't a team player. If you want to know the extent of my teamliness, ask my team mates. Otherwise, shut up.

Originally Posted by Gambet

If only I knew what work this was. I've seen about one or two reviews from you. I don't think you've worked enough to go rambling that you've been in the team for nearly two years, because you've contributed enough work to bloat for only a good month or two.

You don't see what happens behind closed doors and you make these assumptions. You're pathetic. Go outside, the short bus is waiting.

Originally Posted by ZanderX

Boo-goddamn-hoo. There are people who worked harder than you for longer and got less. You don't see them making a big stink about it and whining and crying.

Got less? Who? Give names instead of ideas.

Originally Posted by ZanderX

So do you not have a real paying job or something? Because you should get used to this really soon.

If I wanted a real paying job, why should I get used to not getting payed? I don't want money, I simply want to be given the tools necessary for work so that I don't have to pay to work.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link

Yea, FAQ positions are really tough. Try managing two servers, and financing a third. At the same time, where the financed one has yet to be fixed, even though I lodged a complaint the day I purchased it, over a month ago

What does my work on Zone have ANYTHING to do with PWA work? Please, just shut up. I'm tired of you going about disrespecting me in every thread, and you running your mouth knowing NOTHING of what I'm talking about. I'm talking about all the guides and reviews I've written and posted.

[Zero Hour]

Protagonist, dude, address my comment.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

You knew that you were volunteering when you signed up, right? So what's the big surprise? Doesn't make much sense to me.

It's fine to volunteer. However, how many volunteers actually pay to volunteer? They pay in time, not money.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by protagonist

It's fine to volunteer. However, how many volunteers actually pay to volunteer? They pay in time, not money.

Yea, but you knew you were going to pay when you volunteered, right? I mean Stefan didn't give away gold to every volunteer, it wasn't a surprise to you when you didn't get free gold right?

Besides, if you did get free gold for being staff every Tom, ****, and Joe would want to be a staffer!

[EDIT] Lame, I can't say the word which reminds some of phallus shaped objects.[/EDIT]

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Gambet

What does my work on Zone have ANYTHING to do with PWA work?

How does anything you do have anything to do with PWA work? You apparently don't even know what it encompasses.

Originally Posted by Gambet

Please, just shut up. I'm tired of you going about disrespecting me in every thread, and you running your mouth knowing NOTHING of what I'm talking about.

Ahahahaha.
Irony.

Originally Posted by Gambet

I'm talking about all the guides and reviews I've written and posted.

It must piss you off that you haven't gotten smack for them. Oh wait, you got a nice position on Zone doing nothing. Free power/publicity!

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by protagonist

Ahahahaha.
Irony.

I agree

but address my other points, now.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Yea, but you knew you were going to pay when you volunteered, right? I mean Stefan didn't give away gold to every volunteer, it wasn't a surprise to you when you didn't get free gold right?

It didn't surprise me at first, no. But more and more people are getting "global staff accounts", meaning they get free access. I think that should be extended to me as well.

Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Besides, if you did get free gold for being staff every Tom, ****, and Joe would want to be a staffer!

Most of them do want to be staffers, simply because they get recognition and power.


EDIT: Sorry I called you Gambet, ZH. Really sorry.