Graal: The Gathering

[falco10291029]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Hoo-boy, self-aggrandising quotes. One of my favorite things in the world.

Actually Zeratul did say that at one point, because that did happen (im geussing you're referring to mine). I usually won't make one that I said that amkes me look better, I need toher people to do it .

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

Actually Zeratul did say that at one point

Doesn't really matter.

[Googi]

It's the Googi card!

And it's LIMITED EDITION!

[Raelyn]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

Ok, got it done.

Note: Since this isn't actually a real cardgame (yet?), there are obviously some rules that would be different for certain things. For instance mages like myself would probably have their cards slightly different, like this (positive spellpower=good), since it wouldn't be fair to judge their weapon prowess . Sorry if you don't like it.

Your transparencies and your card title are a bit off, and they are right, I dunno if you ever played magic, but generally quotes aren't compliments towards the creatures on the card.

Slight revisions I would suggest;
Format some of the text and icons better.
Fix brown borders around icons.
"Ice" should probably be "Tundra" to fit with the set.
Fix "spellpower" and put the wc icon back, and rather simply replace wc with the value you of your spell ability translated into an equivalent WC.

See the flavor text here, and notice the functions of the card.



I think I mentioned something about overpowered vs. reasobable cards up above, they kind of take the fun out of it.

[Butz]

Can you really say "Illustrated by" when all you did was take a screenshot?
Sorry to be technical, but the Illustrated by credit should really be going to whoever created the head/body, weapons and tiles that are in the picture.

[Raelyn]

Originally Posted by Butz

Can you really say "Illustrated by" when all you did was take a screenshot?
Sorry to be technical, but the Illustrated by credit should really be going to whoever created the head/body, weapons and tiles that are in the picture.

Actually, it's just for flavor of the card, they are fun collectables, it's more like saying "I made this card." not the picture contained within the card. Illus. Raelyn Keizauft is referencing the whole card as a single unit, I drew it together from different sources.

What you're saying suggests that if someone uses pictures from a magazine in a collage, that the collage no longer is their art, but the art of the photographers? I'm sorry, but following that logic, alot of games would belong to the writer of the C++ language, and every windows compatible program would belong to microsoft. That really doesn't make alot of sense. Just because someone else designed something, and you altered it and added it as part of your own art, that doesn't make it their art once it has been altered. I could invert the mona lisa and call it my own creation, Inverta Lisa.

Sorry to be technical, but "Illustrated by" is little more than saying "displayed by", and I am displaying this card, so you're simply wrong, both artistically and technically.

[haro41]

yeah its no big deal. i dont think he is going to go out and print them out and sell them to kids.

[falco10291029]

Your transparencies and your card title are a bit off, and they are right, I dunno if you ever played magic, but generally quotes aren't compliments towards the creatures on the card.

Kaimetsu is the only one who said anything about the quote actually, and I ahve played it, several of the cards I have are things that say good things about the creatures on it, or at least how dangerous they are.

Slight revisions I would suggest;
Format some of the text and icons better.

I put the text how you said you did, and it looked basically the same to me. The icons I did the best I could on for the arrangement. Also, this was just an example card, I usually won't work with the ice element with characters I'd make, I'm more of a dark/fire person.

Fix brown borders around icons.

Again, this is just an example of my style of it, I suppose, if I really was making it, I would have fixed that up a little better.

"Ice" should probably be "Tundra" to fit with the set.

See above responses

Fix "spellpower" and put the wc icon back, and rather simply replace wc with the value you of your spell ability translated into an equivalent WC.

I don't think you actually can get an exact amount, I based the power on damage to an unarmored person with no resistances at all. But I suppose I can do that for future cards (I will probably make a dark, fire, and normal one).

I think I mentioned something about overpowered vs. reasobable cards up above, they kind of take the fun out of it.

You say that after making your card? Also note the crappy AC, and that's with a buff spell on (my ac can vary from 5 to -20 based on spells and equipment I have).

On a different note, do you have a link to somewhere I can go to see special abilities the cards can have (i.e trample, first-strike), and what they do? It would probably help if i made more cards.

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

Kaimetsu is the only one who said anything about the quote actually, and I ahve played it, several of the cards I have are things that say good things about the creatures on it, or at least how dangerous they are.

Heh, 'in general' are such cool words

[falco10291029]

Heh, 'in general' are such cool words

nah, I personally don't like them much.

[Okilian]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

Kaimetsu is the only one who said anything about the quote actually, and I ahve played it, several of the cards I have are things that say good things about the creatures on it, or at least how dangerous they are.

I put the text how you said you did, and it looked basically the same to me. The icons I did the best I could on for the arrangement. Also, this was just an example card, I usually won't work with the ice element with characters I'd make, I'm more of a dark/fire person.

Again, this is just an example of my style of it, I suppose, if I really was making it, I would have fixed that up a little better.

See above responses

I don't think you actually can get an exact amount, I based the power on damage to an unarmored person with no resistances at all. But I suppose I can do that for future cards (I will probably make a dark, fire, and normal one).


You say that after making your card? Also note the crappy AC, and that's with a buff spell on (my ac can vary from 5 to -20 based on spells and equipment I have).

On a different note, do you have a link to somewhere I can go to see special abilities the cards can have (i.e trample, first-strike), and what they do? It would probably help if i made more cards.

Parts I agree with, parts I don't. I am a Magic player and spent time looking at the cards. If you want a card similar to a Magic one, things need to be fixed

- all magic/abilities are of same print, be it bold or regular (it's changed some). Trample and your "spell caster" don't need to be different
- don't need spell caster part of text.
- you used some weird mana that i've never seen in any reason. Nothing even in change
- spellpower isn't needed at the bottom, it's attack and defense.
- large amount of power.

if it's just for show, then looks good

[falco10291029]

This isnt meant to be exactly like magic:

I made the spellcaster part smaller because it wouldn't have fit otherwise.

So i should ahve just put special then? Ill remember that for later.

No one used correct mana types.

I know, it was covered that spellpower isnt needed, and i'll change that in later cards.


the power amounts werent bigger than most of his, the GK cards if actualyl made will probably have a higher (well technically lower since its AC) average A/D than magic cards would.

[Raelyn]

Originally Posted by Okilian

Parts I agree with, parts I don't. I am a Magic player and spent time looking at the cards. If you want a card similar to a Magic one, things need to be fixed

- all magic/abilities are of same print, be it bold or regular (it's changed some). Trample and your "spell caster" don't need to be different
- don't need spell caster part of text.
- you used some weird mana that i've never seen in any reason. Nothing even in change
- spellpower isn't needed at the bottom, it's attack and defense.
- large amount of power.

if it's just for show, then looks good

Ya, I replaced mana with key attributes of, because mana types wouldn't make any sense, and the only cards that have bold pring in the flavor box with descriptions are those from a starter deck. :P

[Raelyn]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

You say that after making your card?

What's wrong with my card? It's not unreasonable or overpowered, and my quote is simply noting than I am an elven pirate, not that it's good or bad, or that I beat people twice my level. Just that an elven pirate is rare. :P

[falco10291029]

Well you said my card is overpowered, i simply stated that yours is stronger

[Raelyn]

Originally Posted by falco10291029

Well you said my card is overpowered, i simply stated that yours is stronger

Actually, I didn't say your card was overpowered, I said that I had stated something above about other cards being overpowered. The only thing really overpowered on your card is making up your own abilities. ie. Spellcaster.

But it doesn't really matter, the cards are just fun collectables anyways.

[falco10291029]

Many magic cards make up their own abilities, if i recall, that arent listed as preset like trample is. That ability actually makes the card more equal towards the player ones you made, considering the weak AC. The power makes it so it can kill an opposing threat (that doesnbt have firststrike) and not just die helplessly .