Account sharing

[davidpsy]

I really wish that you guys would make it known that account sharing is illegal. I see people everyday on aim that share accounts and I tell them its illegal but they dont know its illegal.

Maybe there should be a button on the graal prog that says rules and it would direct you to a webpage listing all the rules, and at the top it would state that account sharing is illegal. Maybe just a message under your account space where you type in you account saying account sharing is illegal like this.

[Thallen]

It'd be pretty great to get an un-hackable Graal soon, too, which is currently the root of all accounts being "shared." Relentless Mirage tricked me into downloading the trainer on AIM. I asked him for the GraalShop program and he sent me GraalShop.exe, I loaded it, it was the trainer, and as we all should know, that trainer instantly finds Graal password files on your computer and retrieves it to the Intelligence team...damn them hackers, and the other account sharers.

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by Thallen
It'd be pretty great to get an un-hackable Graal soon, too, which is currently the root of all accounts being "shared." Relentless Mirage tricked me into downloading the trainer on AIM. I asked him for the GraalShop program and he sent me GraalShop.exe, I loaded it, it was the trainer, and as we all should know, that trainer instantly finds Graal password files on your computer and retrieves it to the Intelligence team...damn them hackers, and the other account sharers.

I think my firewall would tell me if someone was trying to get my password so I'm kewl there. What was the site that had the aim graal password stealer?

[Thallen]

Originally posted by davidpsy

I think my firewall would tell me if someone was trying to get my password so I'm kewl there. What was the site that had the aim graal password stealer?

A firewall really won't do much, it has no sort of virus or trojan within it. I'm not going to give you the site, I'd rather not take responsibility for your account being possibly stolen. :|

[Lyndzey]

Originally posted by davidpsy
I really wish that you guys would make it known that account sharing is illegal. I see people everyday on aim that share accounts and I tell them its illegal but they dont know its illegal.

Maybe there should be a button on the graal prog that says rules and it would direct you to a webpage listing all the rules, and at the top it would state that account sharing is illegal. Maybe just a message under your account space where you type in you account saying account sharing is illegal like this.

I usually don't ban right away since I just recently posted about the rule. I always give a warning and change the password for the person who has the paypal receipt. Their account name goes on a list, and I check it later on...if the IPs are different on servers again, they're banned.

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Lyndzey


I usually don't ban right away since I just recently posted about the rule. I always give a warning and change the password for the person who has the paypal receipt. Their account name goes on a list, and I check it later on...if the IPs are different on servers again, they're banned.

Yes, but the problem is, alot of people dont have access to these forums....there needs to be a clear, visible place where all will see it without a doubt

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Yes, but the problem is, alot of people dont have access to these forums....there needs to be a clear, visible place where all will see it without a doubt

I suggested this a while back, it didnt get far:

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Yes, but the problem is, alot of people dont have access to these forums....there needs to be a clear, visible place where all will see it without a doubt

You know, Moon Goddess, that's all well and good, but this information is posted at both the website and the forums. You don't need a forums account to come by and read the threads; and it's always a good idea to check any game you play's webpage for any new news, etc, and the information is also clearly posted there. It's the fault of none but themselves.

[Spark910]

Well that graal email newsletter would be a good way to report new rules, what happened to that? It never got lifted off the ground =/

[syltburk]

Originally posted by Lyndzey


I usually don't ban right away since I just recently posted about the rule. I always give a warning and change the password for the person who has the paypal receipt. Their account name goes on a list, and I check it later on...if the IPs are different on servers again, they're banned.

Im using about 5 computers
3 school computers+my+2 cousin computers


ur going to ban me? thats like saying "Im gonna look at the ip now, OMG THERE IS 5 DIFFRENT IPS LIEK OMI CRAZY IMA WARN THAT DUDE, UMG HES DIFFRENT AGAIN LIEK OMI OMI IMA BAN HIM"

(ofcourse u wouldnt say that, im just being a little anderstandable that isnt common when it comes to me)

[CheeToS2]

Originally posted by Spark910


I suggested this a while back, it didnt get far:

problem with that though is people with 640x480 resolutions will have a fit

[Darlene159]

Originally posted by Tseng


You know, Moon Goddess, that's all well and good, but this information is posted at both the website and the forums. You don't need a forums account to come by and read the threads; and it's always a good idea to check any game you play's webpage for any new news, etc, and the information is also clearly posted there. It's the fault of none but themselves.

I know this, and I also know that most of the graal players are lazy when it comes to reading the rules, and I know it is their fault...I just thought it would be a good idea to make it more visible....its only my opinion, lol

I also think what spark posted there (the addition to the client) is a good idea

[protagonist]

I think a built in thing to Graal like Spark has is a good idea.

[Golbez]

Speaking of account sharing is it considered account sharing if someone gives you there account but it is still on there e-mail?
(Account Nero_2002 does this ;x)
I can see it being wroung if the person comes back and starts going corrupt on your account =X

[protagonist]

Sharing accounts is illegal, as well as giving your account to someone else.

[Golbez]

So then Nero_2002 (Nero's account used by Alex) needs to be warned :o

[protagonist]

I suppose so.

[ApeHex]

Needless to say, account sharing may not be stopped, nor the hackers trying to get accounts. Its said really. If graal were free again, this would happend ya know.

[Golbez]

Originally posted by ApeHex
Needless to say, account sharing may not be stopped, nor the hackers trying to get accounts. Its said really. If graal were free again, this would happend ya know.

Well, if Graal was free again these hackers wont be so mad any more, because there mostly mad about Graal going P2P. Sharing accounts wouldnt even be needed also

[superb]

Sharing accounts is illegal, as well as giving your account to someone else.

Not completely true. There has been more than one instance where this was allowed.

[Golbez]

Originally posted by superb


Not completely true. There has been more than one instance where this was allowed.

See what happens if someone gives you an account but you dont have full control over it. 1 year later your staff and no one set your IP yet and you have levels. The person then finds out your staff goes on your RC and removes all the levels. BOOM your globaly banned, why? It was on your account your responsible. Its just a way to prevent this kind of things happening. Or say your FAQ on a server (no RC) and the person comes on and starts cussing at people with the FAQ tag on. You will get fired your responsible.

[superb]

Well DUH! If you are stupid and don't have the password changed then that could happen. That's why I said under certain instances, it has been allowed.

[Golbez]

Originally posted by superb
Well DUH! If you are stupid and don't have the password changed then that could happen. That's why I said under certain instances, it has been allowed.

And what do you think %75 of the players do?
They wouldnt change the password.

[superb]

They wouldnt change the password.

Then they should be held responsible. You seem to think I'm trying to justify this practice. I am merely saying that IT HAS OCCURED MORE THAN ONCE...and NOTHING has been done about it. In fact, Lyndzey herself said it is allowed under certain circumstances.

[Lyndzey]

Originally posted by superb


Not completely true. There has been more than one instance where this was allowed.

As long as people gave their accounts away before I made the account sharing thread, I will not do anything.

[superb]

As long as people gave their accounts away before I made the account sharing thread, I will not do anything.

Thank you. That's all I've been saying. There's also been cases where an oldbie had an old account that was upgraded a long time ago (say early 2001), but never upgraded it again after that. The account is still lifetime classic, but the oldbie gives it away to a friend. The difference here is that the person who the account was given to pays to upgrade the account. Hence ownership is changed I believe after a password change is made.

[unknown]

ok look im sick of you thallen, you an idiot, I was on UN and you asked me to give oyu a trainer, I siad I dont have one but I cant give you a site I know, you said no fux that Im not goin to a site send me it on aim balh blahblah and i was nice enough to do it so dont even try to be mr innocent idiot, you have no proof anyway stop being the 13 year old you are stupid.... =/ anyway your an idiot im innocent bye.

[unknown]

say bye to BV thallen, you weaseled your way in in the first place so bye..

[Crono]

I love you super 1337 double posting skills, and this account was created in 2000 or very early 2001. And I thought it was legal to GIVE your account to someone else...unixmad didn't seem to mind.