server rotation

[Exhausted]

in graal's next version, i would like to see the client only let you play a server for 5 hours and then makes you play other servers for a few hours before letting you go back.

example:
I play UN for 5 hours and then am locked out until i play other servers for 5 hours, then can come back on UN

this will help spread playercount and will encourage developers to make better thigns on the server since there will always be more people coming in

[kia345]

If I'm going to be forced to play something I don't like, and my alternative is to log off, I'm going to log off. Your latest idea sucks as bad as the rest.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

this will help spread playercount and will encourage developers to make better thigns on the server since there will always be more people coming in

That or the more likely outcome:

People stop playing graal because they cant play the server they actually like.

[Crono]

OH MY GOD LOL.caps

It's as if his ideas get worse and worse.

[DustyPorViva]

Forcing people to play is not going to actually make them play, it's just going to make them leave... because they're not going to play something they don't enjoy.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by kia345

If I'm going to be forced to play something I don't like, and my alternative is to log off, I'm going to log off. Your latest idea sucks as bad as the rest.

no it doesn't. i don't see why you'd have a problem with having to play another server then GK.. there's plenty to do on UN/npulse/zodiac/era

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

That or the more likely outcome:

People stop playing graal because they cant play the server they actually like.

no... people always resent change on Graal, but eventually they'll like it.

Originally Posted by Crono

OH MY GOD LOL.

It's as if his ideas get worse and worse.
caps

*rolls eyes*, then how is my idea bad? -_-

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes*, then how is my idea bad? -_-

This would do nothing other than piss players off. Playercount needs to rise because players actually want to play a server, not because they're forced to.

[Exhausted]

@dusty, they can still enjoy their gameplay on other servers.

[cbk1994]

I wish you were joking, but unfortunately, I don't think you are.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

@dusty, they can still enjoy their gameplay on other servers.

No... forcing people to play is not going to force them to enjoy it. People don't play what they don't enjoy, no matter if you lock them out of the other servers, they're just going to stop playing alltogether. If I enjoyed Era, I'd play Era... but I don't, so I don't see why I'd be forced to sit there.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by Crono

This would do nothing other than piss players off. Playercount needs to rise because players actually want to play a server, not because they're forced to.

*rolls eyes again* there are mor pros then cons to my idea.. some people will get mad, but they'll be helping graal by playing other servers and not the same one the whole day

i honestly think you're trying really hard to find reason to disagree with me because you hate me for some reason

Adding on...

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

No... forcing people to play is not going to force them to enjoy it. People don't play what they don't enjoy, no matter if you lock them out of the other servers, they're just going to stop playing alltogether. If I enjoyed Era, I'd play Era... but I don't, so I don't see why I'd be forced to sit there.

i didn't say you should be forced to play a specific server. it wouldn't kill you to find some friends on another server and play it.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes again* there are mor pros then cons to my idea.. some people will get mad, but they'll be helping graal by playing other servers and not the same one the whole day

They won't be helping because they won't bother.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

i honestly think you're trying really hard to find reason to disagree with me because you hate me for some reason

No one tries to disagree with you. I saw this was your thread and hated it before I even clicked on it. You ideas just suck. No wonder you're exhausted, you waste all this time trying to justify bad ideas.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

They won't be helping because they won't bother.

what makes you think you can speak for the entire graal population?

Originally Posted by kia345

No one tries to disagree with you. I saw this was your thread and hated it before I even clicked on it. You ideas just suck. No wonder you're exhausted, you waste all this time trying to justify bad ideas.

wow an account name joke, how original. i rate your trolling a 2/10

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

what makes you think you can speak for the entire graal population?

What makes you think you can?

[fowlplay4]

I now declare that we call your idea EXTREME OBSERVER MODE, and observer mode sucks because it's anti-fun.

[Crono]

Guys I really hope the jokes on us and he's been making these threads to bait us all the whole time.

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes again* there are mor pros then cons to my idea.. some people will get mad, but they'll be helping graal by playing other servers and not the same one the whole day

There are 0 pros to your idea. Forcing players to play a server in the name of playercount will cause more harm than good. That's like World of Warcraft forcing players to switch from normal servers to PvP servers to RP servers every 5 hours, it's just ridiculous. There's a pretty good reason why no game does this. You're putting too much emphasis on playercount. Playercount changes by how well a playerworld can both attract and keep players, not how well Graal can force players onto a server.

Originally Posted by Exhausted

i honestly think you're trying really hard to find reason to disagree with me because you hate me for some reason

Trust me, it doesn't take much effort to find a reason to disagree with anything you post. I'm sure the forum shares my opinion, and I'm pretty sure the problem is on your side not ours. LOL

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

What makes you think you can?

because i studied psychology for 4 years in school and i've played graal for about seven years so i know how the general population will react

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

I now declare that we call your idea EXTREME OBSERVER MODE, and observer mode sucks because it's anti-fun.

3.4 rating, better then kia's.

Originally Posted by Crono

There are 0 pros to your idea. Forcing players to play a server in the name of playercount will cause more harm than good. That's like World of Warcraft forcing players to switch from normal servers to PvP servers to RP servers every 5 hours,

this isn't WoW, making the rest of that irrelevant

Trust me, it doesn't take much effort to find a reason to disagree with anything you post. I'm sure the forum shares my opinion, and I'm pretty sure the problem is on your side not ours. LOL

4/10 rating, best trolling in this thread so far

seriously guys, why are you giving me such a hard time? if you think my ideas are ****ty, fine. you don't like them, fine. we could have a serious discussion about this, but you guys go right to flaming and subtle insults, which isn't what i want.

can we have a civil discussion, please?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

wow an account name joke, how original. i rate your trolling a 2/10

Your thread is a joke. You seem to think this is a case of "trolls trolling trolls".


No, we genuinely think your ideas are stupid.

[Clockwork]

I thought I said goodbye to you

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

this isn't WoW, making the rest of that irrelevant

How does it make the rest irrelevant even if this isn't WoW? Here, allow me to remove that bit. There are 0 pros to your idea. Forcing players to play a server in the name of playercount will cause more harm than good. Go ahead, name me some pros.

Originally Posted by Exhausted

4/10 rating, best trolling in this thread so far

This whole "YAY IM GOING TO RATE WHATEVER POST DISAGREES WITH ME AND BRAND THE POSTER A TROLL" is getting old. p.s it's not trolling

Originally Posted by Exhausted

seriously guys, why are you giving me such a hard time? if you think my ideas are ****ty, fine. you don't like them, fine. we could have a serious discussion about this, but you guys go right to flaming and subtle insults, which isn't what i want.

Because your ideas are unbelievably terrible and yet you're the only person on this forum who can't see or accept that. You continue to argue with horrible logic, ignore any valid point thrown your way (with the ever so witty "lel 1/10 rating u troll lelel" stamp), and then keep going.

[Exhausted]

how is my thread a joke?
i want what we all want: graal to be a better game.
for every change, there are people that like and dislike that change, people that will stay, people that will quit.

if this feature was implemented, i guarantee a few people would quit, but in time more people would play and the game would get a LOT better

[fowlplay4]

Seriously, you can't seriously expect players to drop everything they're doing every 5 hours or so to try something new, making people play things they don't like will not be a good idea.

Just because you don't mind some things, doesn't mean other people will.

Seriously...

Originally Posted by Exhausted

if this feature was implemented, i guarantee a few people would quit, but in time more people would play and the game would get a LOT better

Better servers, make the game ALOT better, not roulette styled gameplay which is what you're proposing.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by Crono

How does it make the rest irrelevant even if this isn't WoW? Here, allow me to remove that bit. There are 0 pros to your idea. Forcing players to play a server in the name of playercount will cause more harm than good. Go ahead, name me some pros.

graal is way different then WoW.

pros:
- inspired developers
- better game quality
- most servers being put to constant use

cons:
- a few elitist members would quit

This whole "YAY IM GOING TO RATE WHATEVER POST DISAGREES WITH ME AND BRAND THE POSTER A TROLL" is getting old. p.s it's not trolling

if i rated every post that disagreed with me, i would do a lot more ratings. i generally only rate single sentences, but sometimes entire posts, but those posts are usually short anyway.

Because your ideas are unbelievably terrible and yet you're the only person on this forum who can't see or accept that. You continue to argue with horrible logic, ignore any valid point thrown your way (with the ever so witty "lel 1/10 rating u troll lelel" stamp), and then keep going.

no, in my last thread someone agreed with my idea

added on to original post..

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Seriously, you can't seriously expect players to drop everything they're doing every 5 hours or so to try something new, making people play things they don't like will not be a good idea.

it doesn't necesscarily have to be every 5 hours... if people know there's a deadline, they won't commit to activities that'll go above the deadline, anyway.

Better servers, make the game ALOT better, not roulette styled gameplay which is what you're proposing.

all of graal's servers are pretty bad right now... still fun/playable, but rigged with a lot of problems

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

no, in my last thread someone agreed with my idea

That's because your last thread was about you quitting

[fowlplay4]

Your idea does not actually do any of the following:

- Inspires developers, ( In fact common developer consensus is that we hate your ideas )
- Improves game quality ( What..? )

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

pros:
- inspired developers
- better game quality
- most servers being put to constant use



cons:
- a few elitist members would quit

Servers are not being put to "constant use" because they do not attract players. This can range from the server not being good enough to the server only wanting to cater for a certain type of audience. Forcing players onto a server they do not want to be on will make them GASP NOT WANT TO PLAY IT. More than just "a few elitist members would quit".

Developers would not become inspired by this, if anything as a developer I would be appalled at such a ridiculous system and not want to develop at all. The "quality" of a playercount would not be altered by this.

Originally Posted by Exhausted

no, in my last thread someone agreed with my idea

Wow, a whole person! Who was it by the way? I think the person was most likely kidding around.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by kia345

That's because your last thread was about you quitting

*rolls eyes*, about the GP thread

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Your idea does not actually do any of the following:

- Inspires developers, ( In fact common developer consensus is that we hate your ideas )
- Improves game quality ( What..? )

all it is is the same 5-10 people disagreeing with me.. that hardly is the entire populace of graal

most people just hate my ideas because it's inconviencies them. wanna pay more for graal? no, "the game isn't worth paying for even though i play it all day anyway!"..wanna move content from dead/dying servers to servers actually alive? "no, even though this isn't a bad idea at all, i want this server to stay alive because i used to play it but don't anymore.. it's still my home! just.. i dont play it, like everyone else".. limit the power of GPs to prevent corruption? "no, there's a few people i dislike that i want the GPs to take care of even though they aren't breaking rules"

seriously, become more open-minded.. besides you're the MANAGER of a server, which is why you don't want people going off your server

Originally Posted by Crono

Servers are not being put to "constant use" because they do not attract players. This can range from the server not being good enough to the server only wanting to cater for a certain type of audience. Forcing players onto a server they do not want to be on will make them GASP NOT WANT TO PLAY IT. More than just "a few elitist members would quit"

obviously the servers with lower populations attract players, just that some servers are more attractive then others. if you're going to keep those lower-population servers around, you might as well get people to play them more -_-

Developers would not become inspired by this, if anything as a developer I would be appalled at such a ridiculous system and not want to develop at all. The "quality" of a playercount would not be altered by this.

right.. if you say so

Wow, a whole person! Who was it by the way? I think the person was most likely kidding around.

no idea. darlene always deletes my threads and then never responds after she says i can forum PM her about it.. so i can't go back and check

[Clockwork]

Removing players freedoms is not a very good idea. This is like me arguing that once you make a goodbye thread (hint) you are not ever allowed to come back again.

[fowlplay4]

My position on Zodiac does not influence my opinion, sure I don't want to lose players from my server but I don't want to house people who don't want to be on it either.

It should be the server and it's content that attracts the players, not forcing players to go there.

Also how does your idea work around the fact that players may be banned on the servers they will be rotated to, does it pertain only to Classic and Gold servers? What if they don't have gold or classic?

What if a player went out of his way to get banned on every server he didn't want to play on, so he didn't have to suffer through getting rotated?

Implementing this could be a support center nightmare.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

obviously the servers with lower populations attract players, just that some servers are more attractive then others. if you're going to keep those lower-population servers around, you might as well get people to play them more -_-

They attract the amount they do for a reason, you can't force people to play them because the truth of the matter is the ~73 players on UN right now want to play UN and not Era, Zodiac, Valikorlia, Delteria, or Npulse.

[Mark Sir Link]

holy **** this guy can't possibly be serious

[maximus_asinus]

In the beginning I thought Exhausted was serious, but I've begun to formulate this theory where he is actually an ex-graalian whos only purpose is to troll these forums until someone figures out his identity.

If by the off chance I am wrong, and he is actually serious then, I ask you... no I beg you; sign out, clear your cookies, and your browser's history, uninstall Graal, then wander outside and suffer some sort of blunt force trauma so you forget all about Graal.

[Nelm]

I'm with Max. I thought we were done with this guy?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes*

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes again*

Originally Posted by Exhausted

*rolls eyes*

They see me rollin', they hatin'.

[Exhausted]

Originally Posted by Clockwork

Removing players freedoms is not a very good idea. This is like me arguing that once you make a goodbye thread (hint) you are not ever allowed to come back again.

5/10 rating, the trolling just keeps getting better in this thread.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

My position on Zodiac does not influence my opinion, sure I don't want to lose players from my server but I don't want to house people who don't want to be on it either.

*rolls eyes* once again, i never said they had to be forced onto a specific server. locked out of UN? go to npulse for a bit, it's a classic server. locked out of Era? they have guns in UN CS, go there for a bit.

Also how does your idea work around the fact that players may be banned on the servers they will be rotated to, does it pertain only to Classic and Gold servers? What if they don't have gold or classic?

well if someone got banned that much anyway, they should just be globally banned

What if a player went out of his way to get banned on every server he didn't want to play on, so he didn't have to suffer through getting rotated?

well hopefully a global notices and just bans them

Implementing this could be a support center nightmare.

i think that the globals are very competent and could handle anything

Originally Posted by Crono

They attract the amount they do for a reason, you can't force people to play them because the truth of the matter is the ~73 players on UN right now want to play UN and not Era, Zodiac, Valikorlia, Delteria, or Npulse.

large playercounts attract other players if noobs were sent off to other servers (like the dead/dying ones), they wouldn't automatically think UN is the best because of it's player count.

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

In the beginning I thought Exhausted was serious, but I've begun to formulate this theory where he is actually an ex-graalian whos only purpose is to troll these forums until someone figures out his identity.

i still play graal...

If by the off chance I am wrong, and he is actually serious then, I ask you... no I beg you; sign out, clear your cookies, and your browser's history, uninstall Graal, then wander outside and suffer some sort of blunt force trauma so you forget all about Graal.

3/10 rating, horrible trolling

Originally Posted by Tigairius

They see me rollin', they hatin'.

offtopic/spam post. i would neg rep if i could.

[pooper200000]

Here, I'll play your game. You say it is the same 5-10 people opposing you. I tend to stay out of things which means I haven't opposed you, and I admit I don't like this idea.

I'll participate in a "mature" discussion, but don't post things such as," I rate your trolling a 2.5 out of 10." If you post things such as that you are just proving you can't even participate in the mature discussion you so strongly advocate. If you want anyone to treat you maturely, you must act maturely, even if you won't always be treated the same way.

Please post the main positive ideas of this idea in bullet form. After posting the positive ideas, post any negatives sides (Also in bullet form) and explain why the positive ideas outweigh the negative ideas. The reason I ask you do this is because your current method of posting the points is convoluted and I have difficulty deciphering which points you most strongly advocate.

After that I'll post my reasoning on why your I believe this idea would not be good for Graal.

[BlueMelon]

this dude :"OmGZ! Theyrre given 1029k ep on UN FO FREE!!"

The other dude : sorry im like "Practicly banned" for 5 hours.

People would miss alot of some nice server activities to
And i dont like your thread
I rate it a 1.47/10

[Soala]

Originally Posted by BlueMelon

this dude :"OmGZ! Theyrre given 1029k ep on UN FO FREE!!"

The other dude : sorry im like "Practicly banned" for 5 hours.

People would miss alot of some nice server activities to
And i dont like your thread
I rate it a 1.47/10

I totally agree, it would suck for events hosted on some type of server.
Like you need to prepare yourself, you just played like 3hours on it and when the event starts...poof !

An exemple in reality:

Would you like to be american 5hours, then be obliged to live in china for some hours, to finaly become african for a day?

That would totally suck man, stop making some rules that you couldn't stand yourself !

[Darlene159]

Exausted, please stop accusing people of trolling just because they disagree.
I do not agree with your idea at all. I do not think forcing people to play servers that they dont want to play will help Graal in any way.
Updates and advertisement is most important in my opinion.

I would be upset if I were in the middle of something on a server, and my time were up.
That would make me not want to play anymore.
I have servers that I like, and those are what I play.
If I see something advertised, I might check it out.