Post deletion messages

[Rufus]

We can't see them in The Lounge y'know.

[Skyld]

I wish we couldn't see them anywhere.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Skyld

I wish we couldn't see them anywhere.

Log out!

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Rufus

We can't see them in The Lounge y'know.

Yes, I realized this.

Originally Posted by Skyld

I wish we couldn't see them anywhere.

That could probably be arranged.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Yes, I realized this.

Oh. It has been like this for quite a while now so I wasn't sure if anyone actually did notice. It's a pretty simple fix, but people seemed to be confused about their posts just disappearing at times.

[TSAdmin]

Not sure if it's doable, but maybe a way to show someone their own deleted posts as being deleted, while others cannot see said post from said user? Stefan's a genius, he could figure that out...maybe.

Edit: Or maybe even like an infraction notice, but like a "Deleted Posts" notice where it shows in your User CP as "One (or more) of your posts have been deleted in the past 72 hours: List of posts from which thread, and an original copy."

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Oh. It has been like this for quite a while now so I wasn't sure if anyone actually did notice. It's a pretty simple fix, but people seemed to be confused about their posts just disappearing at times.

Well, I have had a lot going on in my life. Please forgive my not being quite on top of things.
At any rate, I fixed it.

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Well, I have had a lot going on in my life. Please forgive my not being quite on top of things.
At any rate, I fixed it.

Well done, thanks.

[Nabru]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Well, I have had a lot going on in my life. Please forgive my not being quite on top of things.
At any rate, I fixed it.

Stop being so defensive, it's not like he called you out like some of the other forums members would. He simply stated posts disappear sometimes and it confuses the users. It's nice to hear you have fixed that issue though. Hopefully we can move on to eventually only having the user who posted it see the delete notice and that's it. That would make a great addition to vB over-all. Maybe someone should post this suggestion at vB's official forums.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Nabru

Stop being so defensive,

I wasn't being defensive. It was merely an explanation, and an apology for not doing it sooner.

[Elizabeth]

mm, it's great when you're 100% convinced that you didn't post it in the first place, so you post it again, and get infractioned for it. then you send a pm and they don't reply.

better yet, you don't even know WHY it was deleted.






but anyways, it's fixed now.

[Unpredlctable]

hooray

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

mm, it's great when you're 100$ convinced that you didn't post it in the first place, so you post it again, and get infractioned for it. then you send a pm and they don't reply.

better yet, you don't even know WHY it was deleted.

Deleting posts is stupid to begin with. Leaving them up with a notice that someone was banned for it would serve as an example and warning to others, and have a much better effect.

[Inverness]

What annoys me more than getting a post of mine deleted is when I don't remember what I posted so don't know why it's deleted, incidentally there is nothing to stop me from posting the same thing again. Sometimes the delete reasons are not helpful ("No.").

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Loriel

Deleting posts is stupid to begin with. Leaving them up with a notice that someone was banned for it would serve as an example and warning to others, and have a much better effect.

they should replace you with pooper200000

[Nataxo]

Originally Posted by Inverness

What annoys me more than getting a post of mine deleted is when I don't remember what I posted so don't know why it's deleted, incidentally there is nothing to stop me from posting the same thing again. Sometimes the delete reasons are not helpful ("No.").

the exact same thing happens to me lol.

wish I could read em to remember xD

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Inverness

What annoys me more than getting a post of mine deleted is when I don't remember what I posted so don't know why it's deleted, incidentally there is nothing to stop me from posting the same thing again. Sometimes the delete reasons are not helpful ("No.").

exactly. moderators need to be more specific with their deletion reason, it's really unhelpful when the message is just "no."

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

exactly. moderators need to be more specific with their deletion reason, it's really unhelpful when the message is just "no."

Sure, just dont expect us to coddle you to the extent of copying the whole post into the deletion message. I can agree to be a little more specific. They will still be considered generic reasons, such as "Dont be rude", "spam", "insultive", etc....

If anyone wants to question it, they can use a forum PM

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

"Dont be rude"

If anyone wants to question it, they can use a forum PM

sorry wait.. since when is 'being rude' against the forum rules?

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I can agree to be a little more specific. They will still be considered generic reasons, such as "Dont be rude", "spam", "insultive", etc....

You could probably just give the number of the paragraph in the forum rules thread, for a minimum of drama with a maximum of precision, I guess.

[Elizabeth]

it's also really annoying when there's a wall of deleted posts all with the exact same deletion message.. i got it the first time.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

sorry wait.. since when is 'being rude' against the forum rules?

They were examples.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

it's also really annoying when there's a wall of deleted posts all with the exact same deletion message.. i got it the first time.

That is because, with the latest vBulletin update, we were given an easier way to delete a bunch of posts at once, putting a reason in the mass delete.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

They were examples.

i know that they were examples, but since when is 'being rude' against the rules?

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

They were examples.

But posts are deleted for that very reason all the time.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

But posts are deleted for that very reason all the time.

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

i know that they were examples, but since when is 'being rude' against the rules?

It isn't, but in certain circumstances, a rude message may be removed as being inappropriate in the specific thread.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

It isn't, but in certain circumstances, a rude message may be removed as being inappropriate in the specific thread.

in certain circumstances? every rude message is removed.. for that reason. being rude isn't against the rules, and atleast they're being relevant. a message could be both rude and completely helpful.



believe it or not, but i have read the rules- and there's nothing about being rude in the rules.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

every rude message is removed.. for that reason.

Trust me, they are not....

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Trust me, they are not....

trust me, messages that aren't even being rude are removed with the deletion message "don't be rude."

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

trust me, messages that aren't even being rude are removed with the deletion message "don't be rude."

I'm not going to argue with you. Your opinion has been noted though.

Originally Posted by From forum rules

a) The moderation staff reserves the right to apply bans according to their own discretion - you receive warnings by convention, not necessity. Furthermore, they are entitled to arbitrate on any matters within their moderation roles. Moderators of individual forums, for example, can edit or delete your posts if they feel it necessary but cannot demand that you change your signature or other account details.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm not going to argue with you. Your opinion has been noted though.

And boy do you like using that rule.

[Sam]

You people complain about the forum rules and all these paragraph's. On the other hand you say "being rude is not against the rules".
You want to be treated as mature adults, but some of you act like children. We could write a book with 500 pages and you will still not get how to behave on this forum: respectful!
Being rude is against the rules:
2) e;f;i

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Sam

You people complain about the forum rules and all these paragraph's. On the other hand you say "being rude is not against the rules".
You want to be treated as mature adults, but some of you act like children. We could write a book with 500 pages and you will still not get how to behave on this forum: respectful!
Being rude is against the rules:
2) e;f;i

You treating everyone else as small children isn't really improving the situation either, you know.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

2) e;f;i

Being rude is not necessarily harassment.
Being rude is not necessarily provoking a user into a flame war.

It's as if these people don't realize we're posting on the Graal Forums.

[Rufus]

3 pages for something that was fixed in the first couple of posts of the thread..

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Crono

Being rude is not necessarily harassment.
Being rude is not necessarily provoking a user into a flame war.

It's as if these people don't realize we're posting on the Graal Forums.

You forgot: being rude is not necessarily bashing a user.
Whatever, just read what Darlene said some weeks ago (in my signature).

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sam

You people complain about the forum rules and all these paragraph's. On the other hand you say "being rude is not against the rules".

we're not complaining about the rules, we're complaining that our posts are being deleted for a rule that doesn't exist.

You want to be treated as mature adults, but some of you act like children.

no, we want our posts to stop being deleted for stupid reasons and rules that don't exist. you two aren't here to parent us, you're here to keep the forums clean, and being rude isn't vulgar.

We could write a book with 500 pages and you will still not get how to behave on this forum

that was just stupid to say, because even if you wrote the book, would you honestly expect us to waste our time reading a 500 page book for an online forum, so that our posts and threads don't get deleted? i'm pretty sure that it's common knowledge on how to post. believe it or not, as i've stated this SO many times in SO many threads, we've read the forum rules.

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Sam

You people complain about the forum rules and all these paragraph's. On the other hand you say "being rude is not against the rules".
You want to be treated as mature adults, but some of you act like children. We could write a book with 500 pages and you will still not get how to behave on this forum: respectful!
Being rude is against the rules:
2) e;f;i

You can put it in the rules all you want, but respect does not really work like that.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

we've read the forum rules.

But you break the rules many times.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sam

But you break the rules many times.

wow, way to single me out.

every one breaks the rules, sam. nobody is perfect. i'm sure that everyone on the forums has atleast one infraction.

[CharlieM]

Yes everyone does because you post saying "I don't like the moderators" and they get angry.