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Old 08-14-2007, 12:37 PM
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Smile Developer Gold Subscription - New Server renting
The new way for renting playerworld servers is up - see the subscription page at
http://www.graalonline.com/playerworlds/stores/upgrade

This will replace the graal.net system, all existing servers will be switched to the new system in a few weeks.

This is how it works:
You buy a Developer Gold subscription, login to the game with the game client, and you will see the server on the list. For you its on the normal serverlist, other people need to type the name in the server name box. You will gain full rights on your server, and your ip-range will automatically be set to allow your ip and computer. The other things are the same like for graal.net managed servers.

Payment methods:
You can use the same payment methods like for account subscriptions, so it is possible to rent a server with PayByCash now

About the Developer guilds (Developer Pack):
Those will be added in a few weeks, they are planned to be around the same price, a developer guild will require 3 members with developer packs, and it will use the same system like the personal servers. The normal Developer Pack will cost around $19 for a half year and $34 for a full year (so if you multiply with 3 it is like the same price for a server).
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:48 PM
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I love the idea of the Developer Guilds It would be more beneficial to me because I just don't have the money to rent a server full price.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:07 PM
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Old 08-14-2007, 03:10 PM
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Okay so let me get this strait.

Developer Gold is the same as being the owner of a server on Graal.net and paying for it?

And the Developer Pack is like having 3 owners with the cost split between them?
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And the Developer Pack is like having 3 owners with the cost split between them?
I see alot of support tickets with the following titles soon:

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I see alot of support tickets with the following titles soon:

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This is why I don't want to enter a partnership... conflicts of interest and debates over the hierarchy of power...not cool. Least you can still get personal servers.
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:30 PM
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IF you don't want that buy one yourself and don't share it with someone. This is our own risk.
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IF you don't want that buy one yourself and don't share it with someone. This is our own risk.
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So.. you can start a server with 2 of your friends cheaper, or buy itself for a higher price? ;O??

I don't get it..
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So.. you can start a server with 2 of your friends cheaper, or buy itself for a higher price? ;O??

I don't get it..
Yes you can start it alone and with friends but the server itself is teh same price. The price for the server is just split to 3 people so it is less for the single person.
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So.. you can start a server with 2 of your friends cheaper, or buy itself for a higher price? ;O??

I don't get it..
Each 'friend' will pay money so it will work out in the end.
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IF you don't want that buy one yourself and don't share it with someone. This is our own risk.
Who said anything about me? I'm talking about innocent yet ignorant little newbies. I feel sorry for some of them when they get scammed/screwed over. Really.
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The 3-player server will probably also not stay up when there is no player online (will come back when one of the 3 is logging in again), while the personal 1-player servers will stay up, like the current servers.
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The 3-player server will probably also not stay up when there is no player online (will come back when one of the 3 is logging in again), while the personal 1-player servers will stay up, like the current servers.
That would suck alot for enthusiastic workers
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The 3-player server will probably also not stay up when there is no player online (will come back when one of the 3 is logging in again), while the personal 1-player servers will stay up, like the current servers.
You should make it cheaper then?
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You should make it cheaper then?
Why, you as single person have to pay less. I don't see anything wrong with it becasue of that.
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What about what's going to happen to the VIP-only rules on guild creation and webhosting?
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What about what's going to happen to the VIP-only rules on guild creation and webhosting?
I am hoping that guilds will just have to have gold, period. I think webhosting should be for people who own playerworld space.
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Classic mode servers like Maloria still don't have to pay, right?
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If you don't have an answer on what's going to happen to the VIP-only things yet, then just say that you don't instead of ignoring the question each time.
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They probably need to switch to payed hosting soon.
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wait, the Developer Gold items are in Euro's, so that means 59 euro's is about $80 in USD and 99 euro's is about $134 in USD. That's about $35 more than what it used to be to rent for a whole year. So in all, i guess it will be cheaper to wait for the developer guild.
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wait, the Developer Gold items are in Euro's, so that means 59 euro's is about $80 in USD and 99 euro's is about $134 in USD. That's about $35 more than what it used to be to rent for a whole year. So in all, i guess it will be cheaper to wait for the developer guild.
Haven't it always been in $? ;o
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No.

I will refuse to share an ownership between 3 players, so I better finish my playerworld before my time runs out :/

Will the people who just recently bought a server (i.e. ME), still be able to have the normal 1 Owner, considering I paid full price for one year?
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No.

I will refuse to share an ownership between 3 players, so I better finish my playerworld before my time runs out :/

Will the people who just recently bought a server (i.e. ME), still be able to have the normal 1 Owner, considering I paid full price for one year?
If you would have read it, you would have noticed that there is still a one man ownership. This is what they released today, developer pack gold.
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If you would have read it, you would have noticed that there is still a one man ownership. This is what they released today, developer pack gold.
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Are you talking about the ones on the Classic list or just those which are UC?
He means servers like Maloria/Babylon who are mooching off free time with ex-classic status and haven't paid in forever.
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wait, the Developer Gold items are in Euro's, so that means 59 euro's is about $80 in USD and 99 euro's is about $134 in USD. That's about $35 more than what it used to be to rent for a whole year. So in all, i guess it will be cheaper to wait for the developer guild.
Yeah man..

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Yeah man..

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Hmmm strange, is it also showing the higher $ price when clicking on the paypal link?
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Hmmm strange, is it also showing the higher $ price when clicking on the paypal link?
You know the answer to that. And it's Yes.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:30 AM
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6+8=14 = 2 oclock

so i think its 2:30 in the morning there...If I'm right about the 8 hour difference.
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