First Impressions?

[DARKVILLIN]

So, lately I've found myself hopping from Private server to Private server just to see whats up...Ya know see if there is anything promising in the works. So, I'd like to share with you guys what I come across as I visit new Private servers randomly. (For those of you as well who don't have access this gives you a little peek at some servers as well.)
Note to Forum Admins- I am using my own personal hosting and webspace for all of the content/multimedia that I share with this community so there is no need to worry about attachments or file size.
Secondly, Everything that will be shown has been found by legally by exploring or entering the server and is accessable to everyone who can access private servers. I also understand that Servers are in the works so they are not expected to be at their very best and some of the servers may be working on seperate overworlds than the ones currently acccessable to players, BUT this is the first impression so too bad? Hehe, on that note shall we start? :P

Trinity: Oakdale City
Current Playercount as of 7:11 EST: 7

Screenshots:


-As of this screenshot the server looks kind of boring. I also don't understand why an UC really needs GPs. I maybe be wrong but I guess first priorities isnt hiring developers. *shrug*


-This is one level south of the previous one...then


-This is the next level south...oopsies! Goes from so-8 to so-23...This was not the only place that it did that as well.


-One of the staff randomly summoned me to an inside level...Err...

Lastly...

-Heh Cars..whatta know. Anywho at least they somewhat took the time to draw the semi right perspective out...Kudos i guess...


Symphonia
The server of Copywritten music?

Lol so this song is played as you enter the starting level. It's not the exact song--theres is only the piano and voice...mine is the full one cause I couldn't find the one they had...
http://www.corkedeffects.com/GraalServers/Syphonia.mp3
(NOTE TO ADMINS-Since I am hosting that link-graal needs not worry about copyright protection seeing as how it is on my site.) (Plus I am not gaining any commercial value by using it as an example, err although the server should still take it off i believe)

-I dont get the blue tree?

-Not real fond of the tileset nor people using tree gfx instead of tiling

-The bottles don't match the rest of the server? =/

-Water

These are the first two servers, I'll post more shortly

[PrinceDark]

You must be suicidal if you're going to look at crap playerworlds one after the other. Someone save him!

[Darlene159]

Why only post the negative, especially on playerworlds that are under construction? Positive feedback in some way is imperative for self asteem I think.
The first pw isn't too bad for a classic type feel, and the second one is quite good level wise imo.
Not enough info on either one to come to any type of conclusion except level wise to some extent.

[smirt362]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Why only post the negative, especially on playerworlds that are under construction? Positive feedback in some way is imperative for self asteem I think.
The first pw isn't too bad for a classic type feel, and the second one is quite good level wise imo.
Not enough info on either one to come to any type of conclusion except level wise to some extent.

I've looked at a lot of playerworlds in development....there's not much positive stuff about them

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by smirt362

I've looked at a lot of playerworlds in development....there's not much positive stuff about them

You can find some positive in most of them, even if it is something small. Positive critisism, and even negative critisism done in a positive way goes a long way a lot of times to give pw owners a little push to do better. Note that this doesn't always work because of some peoples reasons as to why they make a pw, but it can't hurt...

[DARKVILLIN]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Why only post the negative, especially on playerworlds that are under construction? Positive feedback in some way is imperative for self asteem I think.
The first pw isn't too bad for a classic type feel, and the second one is quite good level wise imo.
Not enough info on either one to come to any type of conclusion except level wise to some extent.

Anywho at least they somewhat took the time to draw the semi right perspective out...Kudos i guess...

Once again like we discussed via PM you really should learn everything clearly 100% before trying to insult me and only making yourself looked down upon. Anywho I will be posting more later today. Also maybe I am a straight forward guy. It helps more in life. Beating around the bush will only make things half-assed.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by DARKVILLIN

Once again like we discussed via PM you really should learn everything clearly 100% before trying to insult me and only making yourself looked down upon. Anywho I will be posting more later today. Also maybe I am a straight forward guy. It helps more in life. Beating around the bush will only make things half-assed.

Wait, what? I wasn't insulting you. I was offering some advice to look for some positive input in servers if you are going to do a decent review. I in no way insulted you.
Don't know why you took it as an insult.

[Draenin]

Trinity needs moar detail.

[Rapidwolve]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Trinity needs moar detail.

For the record can I would like to say that that is Jigga's trinity.

[Devil]

Bleh.

I wish people would band together to create an awesome playerworld. /enddream

[Crono]

For the record, the "Crono" in that screenshot is not me.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Gerami

For the record, the "Crono" in that screenshot is not me.

Obviously, the car is too sexy for you.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Minoc

Obviously, the car is too sexy for you.

dun aim me as a frnd again OK??? i h8 u i wish u wer gone T_______________T!!!!

nah im kiddin, that car looks awful

[PrinceDark]

Yeah, but is Faded Nation a gun playerworld or a medieval?

[DARKVILLIN]

Originally Posted by PrinceDark

Yeah, but is Faded Nation a gun playerworld or a medieval?

Its like UN I believe. The only guns they told me would be in their CS event which is okay I believe. No guns will be on the overworld. They have a lot of neat little NPCs which players can collect and use.

[hampy]

Symphonia used to have some nice levels, dont know what the gmap is like anymore tho

[Sum41Freeeeek]

The second one isn't too bad, but the water and grass detail are overdone.

[Infernix]

The first server is just horrid and probably has no postivies. The second one is ahh rlly dark? O and positive criticism and way less important than negatives. Need to know what you can improve on rather than what is already effin good...to bad I have not seen much good in this thread.

[Admins]

Hmmm when watching private server it is often helping to ask the staff what stuff they can show, there is often things in testing were you need to warp to or needing scripts added to you.

[DARKVILLIN]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Hmmm when watching private server it is often helping to ask the staff what stuff they can show, there is often things in testing were you need to warp to or needing scripts added to you.

I know i was just doing first impressions to show the stuff you see when you log on X_x. No server was getting special treatment of warping me anywhere XD. Although some did...and i was abused by staff...


Also-Darlene-I'm not doing a decent review. A decent review would involve me walking around the server for hours looking at everything, This is first impressions just afew quick stuff

[Eagle]

Did you see anything you like in those servers? Could you post them?

I could post a whole bunch of things I didn't like about servers also, but you should of at least post some good things about them too to make it somewhat fair for people to criticize(sp..).. Doesn't really give a fair judgement to the server.

The second one, though not fond of the tileset, I thought the levels themselves were nice.

[theHAWKER]

mabey u should be looking at more interseting survers...
like graal legacy?
or graal l?
thoughs survers are super awsome if i do say so myself...

[warp2ukew]

Faded Nation looks like a nice server.

[DARKVILLIN]

Faded Nation
UN type feel with nicer levels

-When I first logged onto Faded Nation I saw several people say, "It's him", kinda funny...I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Anyways, the staff I encountered was more than kind enough and willing enough to show off their hard work. I have so many screenshots from this server but I respect servers and don't want to give up all their secrets. It was very difficult narrowing them down but here is what I decided were some "cool aspects"


-I've been waiting for a classic server to do this for awhile now. I know of one other server who also is doing this affect a little differently but I can't say which for privacy reasons. Although on Faded Nation if you dont have this scuba suit you will drown.


-They have all sorts of little NPCs that the players can obtain through various methods. I enjoyed the boxing gloves


-Quite possibly my favorite NPC that they gave me. Its a net gun. You shoot it and well it catches people. I could see where this might become abusive so I suggested that it only be used in certain levels or tweaked a little?


-I had fun prank calling people


-As of right now I also noticed you could be a hunter or a farmer. I chose a farmer for now...it is still being worked on, they told me, but here is the jobstats...I like it, but im wondering how hard farming will be...


-If you ever connect to the server you might see someone running around with a gun. I feared the same thing...Oh no not guns. But they ensured me that they were only going to be used and available in their CS event that they were making. That made me more pleased.

Overall
-Overall I would probably play on this server if it gets released. There are some other cool features such as baking and cutting trees, mining, ect. The levels are decent, they could use a little work here and there but overall I wasnt pushed away because of the levels like I have been before. I enjoyed my visit to Faded Nation and hope to check in on them and hopefully see them progressing.

[smirt362]

Faded Nation looks promising. I think they'll go far if they stick to it

[theHAWKER]

humm faded nation looks interesting, but have i ever told u about graal legacy?

[zell12]

Originally Posted by theHAWKER

mabey u should be looking at more interseting survers...
like graal legacy?
or graal l?
thoughs survers are super awsome if i do say so myself...

Originally Posted by theHAWKER

humm faded nation looks interesting, but have i ever told u about graal legacy?

Twice now.

[Chompy]

Originally Posted by theHAWKER

humm faded nation looks interesting, but have i ever told u about graal legacy?

Maybe because you work there..?

[theHAWKER]

Originally Posted by Chompy

Maybe because you work there..?

well thats proposterous!!!!!
i just visit there alot cause the levels and entertainment is extreemly sweet!!!

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by theHAWKER

humm faded nation looks interesting, but have i ever told u about graal legacy?

Just another classic server.

[Andreww]

Greetings folks,
Andrew here representing Faded Nation.

It really boggles my mind when people compare us to Unholy Nation, and blast our server simply for being "classic" is there a new rule that I haven't yet heard of, stating that a server can now only be labeled good if it's "modern" or has a fancy tileset? I guess the people who blast servers really don't know what it's like to run a server and create hundreds and hundreds of levels, and spend months and months and months working on things, just to know that someone will enjoy it someday.

I appreciated the visit that Darkvillin took the time to visit our server and review us, and I enjoyed reading the review, we really can't show everything that we have in the server in only 10 minutes, so we showed some of our more fun-stylish things such as our NPC's and our Counter-Strike mini game.

I can assure you this isn't "all we have" as we have our main man Malinko scripting everything, like the god he is. Some of our more notable things you will see later on in our server is:
-Complex Weather system
-Complex Day/Night system
-A train system
-over 8 jobs including: Mining,Fishing,Tree Chopping,Restaurant working,Hunting,Bounty Hunting, etc.
-Enhanced graalat economy
-Enhanced Hat economy
-over 100 usable NPC's
-A unique Cell phone system
-Various fun mini-games, including "Counter-Strike"
-A pet system
-A unique sparring system (which I won't reveal)

We try to differ ourselves from every other classic server, because we attempt to perfect everything we do, from levels, to scripting, to graphics. So please, before you attempt to bash Faded Nation for being just another "classic server" please look past your ego, and try creating your own sucessful server.

[killerogue]

Originally Posted by Andreww

Greetings folks,
Andrew here representing Faded Nation.

It really boggles my mind when people compare us to Unholy Nation, and blast our server simply for being "classic" is there a new rule that I haven't yet heard of, stating that a server can now only be labeled good if it's "modern" or has a fancy tileset? I guess the people who blast servers really don't know what it's like to run a server and create hundreds and hundreds of levels, and spend months and months and months working on things, just to know that someone will enjoy it someday.

I appreciated the visit that Darkvillin took the time to visit our server and review us, and I enjoyed reading the review, we really can't show everything that we have in the server in only 10 minutes, so we showed some of our more fun-stylish things such as our NPC's and our Counter-Strike mini game.

I can assure you this isn't "all we have" as we have our main man Malinko scripting everything, like the god he is. Some of our more notable things you will see later on in our server is:
-Complex Weather system
-Complex Day/Night system
-A train system
-over 8 jobs including: Mining,Fishing,Tree Chopping,Restaurant working,Hunting,Bounty Hunting, etc.
-Enhanced graalat economy
-Enhanced Hat economy
-over 100 usable NPC's
-A unique Cell phone system
-Various fun mini-games, including "Counter-Strike"
-A pet system
-A unique sparring system (which I won't reveal)

We try to differ ourselves from every other classic server, because we attempt to perfect everything we do, from levels, to scripting, to graphics. So please, before you attempt to bash Faded Nation for being just another "classic server" please look past your ego, and try creating your own sucessful server.

Weellllll, I really like Faded Nation and think it's shaping up to be a pretty good server.

BUT:

Malinko: No offense to him or you. But stating that name is like a one way ticket to critville.

[Andreww]

Not really offended at all,
Malinko has been a player world admin various times, managers of multiple servers, and has amazing NAT talents.
As for me, im not really known for anything rather than being a big help to Faded Nation.

As a matter of fact, stop turding up this good idea by Darkvillin by giving your opinion which isn't even really worth 2cents.
Im sorry if this comes off as "insulting" but I hate jerkwads who criticize people's servers and only post maybe a sentance like
"it's really bad" it really bugs me when idiots post things.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Andreww

I can assure you this isn't "all we have" as we have our main man Malinko scripting everything, like the god he is.

So what you're saying is, that really is "all you have".

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Andreww

I can assure you this isn't "all we have" as we have our main man Malinko scripting everything,

Im sure im not the only scripter on graal that would say this, so im going to take time out to speak for most of us who have ever worked on a classic style server by saying LOL.

I dont even have anything else to say, thats just, it.

I dont know how you can expect to maintain credibility with statements like that.

[googleman]

Originally Posted by Andreww

I can assure you this isn't "all we have" as we have our main man Malinko scripting everything, like the god he is.

You'd get the same result if you replace the verb scripting with the verb stealing.

[Andreww]

Oh boy, the last thing I wanted DarkVillins thread to turn into was a bunch of cry babies with unsucessful servers attempting to blast other servers, and just generally act like idiots, I was fairly warned about how narrow minded alot of the forum users were, and it's showing greatly here in this thread. I apoligize Darkvillin, as you're spending time out of your hands to review servers, and in the midst of it all, you have other thread flamers absolutly destroying it. It's amazing how I see every forum lurker in here, most of whom i've never even heard of, attempt to blast other servers down, every server presentation I see come across here, you complain about it, yet you sit in your servers with a majority of 1-4 playerbase. It's pretty pathetic when you literally remind me of the fat movie critics, who judge every movie harshly, and give them all bad reputation, yet it's a #1 seller in the box office. That's kind of what like this situation is for Faded Nation, you can nit-pick anything you want out of it, but in the end it's the players that count, and from the players we get daily, i'd say we're doing just fine as we've hardly heard any complaints from players, in fact we get praised on the daily.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Andreww

I was fairly warned about how narrow minded alot of the forum users were, and it's showing greatly here in this thread..

Explain.

[killerogue]

This has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. So here's what I'm going to do. Point out each flaw in your statement. Then give you some advice for your PW. Ok? Ok.

Originally Posted by Andreww

Oh boy, the last thing I wanted DarkVillins thread to turn into was a bunch of cry babies with unsucessful

Halt, you have no, I mean no grounds to stand on at all here. You have no clue how many of us have or have not had successful playerworld projects in the last 5-6 years. So shut it please.

servers attempting to blast other servers, and just generally act like idiots, I was fairly warned about how narrow minded alot of the forum users were, and it's showing greatly here in this thread.

Explain.

It's amazing how I see every forum lurker in here, most of whom i've never even heard of, attempt to blast other servers down,

If you haven't heard of any of the people who've criticized this server so far you must not have been playing Graal very long...

every server presentation I see come across here, you complain about it, yet you sit in your servers with a majority of 1-4 playerbase.

Part in bold isn't true. Because when I presented Stone Henge, there were some who hated it and some who loved it. Same as when I presented DO so please back it up.

As far as us complaining it's called criticism. Criticism helps you get better foolish one. :] And as far as servers with a majority of 1-4 playercount...THEY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION SERVERS. NO DUH. Your playercount is most likely your extremely large staff team made of incompetent staff members.

That's kind of what like this situation is for Faded Nation, you can nit-pick anything you want out of it,

This is the funniest part.

What you call nit-picking is called criticism. Voicing your opinion. Freedom of speech. Ever heard of it? People don't like it they will tell you to. Ok? Ok.

Also, who's to say you will even make classic? Let alone Hosted...

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Now, as far as advice goes for your server.

There are too many classic style servers with some of these very same ideas currently in progress.

New ideas would be fun.


Levels are nice.


Servers a bit bare in terms of content. Just good looks as I stated before.



Need some help there bud. Especially when you have people on your server playing-black and saying the n word. >.>

[Andreww]

Originally Posted by killerogue

This has to be the funniest thing I've ever heard.

That's pretty pathetic.

Originally Posted by killerogue

So here's what I'm going to do. Point out each flaw in your statement.

Aren't you a cool guy, maybe next you'll start pointing out grammar errors
and whatnot.

Originally Posted by killerogue

Halt

just by saying this alone you look like a douchebag.

Originally Posted by killerogue

you have no, I mean no grounds to stand on at all here. You have no clue how many of us have or have not had successful playerworld projects in the last 5-6 years. So shut it please.

YEW HAVE NO GROUNDS SIR I MEEN YEW HAVE NO GROUNDS.
At least try not to sound so lame when you post, you really sound like a loser. And how many of these servers have sucessfully gone classic/hosted within the past 5-6 years?

Originally Posted by killerogue

Explain.

Explain what?

Originally Posted by killerogue

If you haven't heard of any of the people who've criticized this server so far you must not have been playing Graal very long...

Actually i've been playing this game for about 6 years, it's just the fact that you (as in the forum lurkers) opinion's don't really matter, as I said before.

Originally Posted by killerogue

Part in bold isn't true. Because when I presented Stone Henge, there were some who hated it and some who loved it. Same as when I presented DO so please back it up.

haha, hey Stone Henge, another server i've yet to hear anything about, or even see on the playerlist.

Originally Posted by killerogue

As far as us complaining it's called criticism. Criticism helps you get better foolish one. :] And as far as servers with a majority of 1-4 playercount...THEY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION SERVERS. NO DUH. Your playercount is most likely your extremely large staff team made of incompetent staff members.

In all honesty why should I be taking criticism from nobodies? honestly, you all say you're always working on servers and i've yet to see anybody saying "well my server was on hosted" you're all just whiners who've never made it past 10% server completion.
And Don't even bother trying to blast my staff list, as being head in the hirings department, I can guarantee we don't have a large list of "incompetent" staff members. As we generally get an average of 10 regular players visiting our server daily.

Originally Posted by killerogue

This is the funniest part.

OH GOD HERE IT COMES.

Originally Posted by killerogue

What you call nit-picking is called criticism.

(nobody cares)

Originally Posted by killerogue

Voicing your opinion. Freedom of speech. Ever heard of it?

No

Originally Posted by killerogue

People don't like it they will tell you to. Ok? Ok.

(nobody cares)

Originally Posted by killerogue

Also, who's to say you will even make classic? Let alone Hosted...

we've already had our server looked at by ex-globals and such, who've all said we could go hosted at this stage if we wanted to. But we're choosing to wait about a month until we further develope FN a bit.


And the rest of your lame quotes don't matter.


End story, how about you whiners who insult other servers attempt to make one of your own? you all say "you work all the time on other servers" yet i've not seen one of you say "yeah I worked on that classic/hosted" server.




But in anycase, this will be my last post into this, as i've learned alot from internet whiners, that if you keep whining back at them, they'll just keep on coming at you, and keep on coming, like a child, that won't stop till it wins.
I don't have to prove anything to alot of you, because you're just the old kids who don't even play graal anymore, yet you sit on the forum 6 hours a day and complain about how bad it is. Graal doesn't need people like you.


See you on the hosted tab!
(actually we wont see you)