Elven Lands

Devil · #1 10-23-2006, 06:34 AM

Ugh..

I got told not to bother, but it's worth a try.

We are looking for level makers to detail Elven Lands _old_ levels and bring them close to the standards that are required on Graal.

If you have any questions PM me on the forums, or in game on Bomymon.
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Edit - I also wouldn't mind seeing if someone would help out with a tileset.. that would be nice.

Lord Sephiroth · #2 10-23-2006, 09:03 AM

This is probably what someone told you already but taking a server like Elven Lands and changing it's levels completely takes away from what the server was. That server was based about the community it held and the levels it had, take away what it has and it's not even Elven Lands anymore.

Devil · #3 10-23-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth

This is probably what someone told you already but taking a server like Elven Lands and changing it's levels completely takes away from what the server was. That server was based about the community it held and the levels it had, take away what it has and it's not even Elven Lands anymore.

Yeah I understand that, but we didn't want to change everything, just detail the levels some more. Not totally change them.

Andy : That would be good mate, add me on AIM sometime.

Andy0687 · #4 10-23-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Ugh..

I got told not to bother, but it's worth a try.

We are looking for level makers to detail Elven Lands _old_ levels and bring them close to the standards that are required on Graal.

If you have any questions PM me on the forums, or in game on Bomymon.
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Edit - I also wouldn't mind seeing if someone would help out with a tileset.. that would be nice.

This is going to be one of those Tasks, next month, when you look at your progress, youll stop.

We converted only about a fifth of the npcs to gs2, from hawlor outward, levels and all, before it got so daunting that we stopped.

On the off chance you could get a group togather that could really pull it off, it wouldnt be EL anymore because things are way too different now, the community that made EL just dosent exist and a ton of new people cant remake that feeling.

Though i wish you good luck on your endevour, and if i come across my converted levels, ill be happy to pass them along.

maximus_asinus · #5 10-23-2006, 12:46 PM

But EL did have some interesting content, if you managed to get a dedicated team together, it would be interesting to see a modernized (updated) EL, tune up the levels, impliment some of the new script function and whatnot. It could be pretty interesting.

Crono · #6 10-23-2006, 02:34 PM

How the hell can old levels be hard to LAT?

Devil · #7 10-23-2006, 02:35 PM

Where did I say that?

Crono · #8 10-23-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Where did I say that?

"We are looking for level makers to detail Elven Lands _old_ levels and bring them close to the standards that are required on Graal."

Sorry I had read that wrong.

I thought it said you were looking for someone to "lat" old levels. xD

MysticX2X · #9 10-23-2006, 02:42 PM

Yup this server wont make it. Seeing as kuji has been trying to pull of this one for how long. Even with someone helping him.

KuJi · #10 10-23-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Yup this server wont make it. Seeing as kuji has been trying to pull of this one for how long. Even with someone helping him.

Hey calm it k? I never got into it because I never could grab LAT's that were good. Oasa and I were the only ones doing stuff.

Anyway, Disturbed Limit aimed me and said I should revive it and he'd help (in some way =!)

So then I uploaded the content, and then... Devil logged on and asked to help so I made him LAT.

If I have a 2-3 LAT Team that works... this project will be pie.

MysticX2X · #11 10-26-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Hey calm it k? I never got into it because I never could grab LAT's that were good. Oasa and I were the only ones doing stuff.

Anyway, Disturbed Limit aimed me and said I should revive it and he'd help (in some way =!)

So then I uploaded the content, and then... Devil logged on and asked to help so I made him LAT.

If I have a 2-3 LAT Team that works... this project will be pie.

I'm just saying that if you want to change it fully, then change the name and think of new ideas. Calling it elven lands wont make it any cooler.

Lord Sephiroth · #12 10-26-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I'm just saying that if you want to change it fully, then change the name and think of new ideas. Calling it elven lands wont make it any cooler.

Mystic has a point, you're basically changing everything already, might as well change the name and stop trying to get cheap playercount with a Legendary Server Name.

KuJi · #13 10-27-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth

Mystic has a point, you're basically changing everything already, might as well change the name and stop trying to get cheap playercount with a Legendary Server Name.

Who said changing everything.. wtf? All we are doing is using the old levels on a gmap as well as making new levels to it to keep it up.

We are also rescripting npcs.

Devil · #14 10-23-2006, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the awesome support.

MysticX2X · #15 10-23-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Thanks for the awesome support.

Im just saying let this server rest in peace. If you want to completely remake it, then just make up a new server.

Infernix · #16 10-23-2006, 09:22 PM

o please, with the low amount of decent lats and in fact developers over all on graal creating a good server is in noway "pie" as you call it.

KuJi · #17 10-23-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

o please, with the low amount of decent lats and in fact developers over all on graal creating a good server is in noway "pie" as you call it.

Pie as in remaking it.. only prob w/ it is levels. I can do the scripts myself, and fast.. because they are basically basic. Most complex it goes is shadow knight's staff tools =! lol.

Anyway, heres how some people can help. I'll post a list of images I can't find, if you have them, please attach them here. Thanks =D.

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Infernix · #18 10-23-2006, 10:29 PM

By todays standards there is going to be a **** load more things other than the levels that are going to need improvement. The entire server is going to need to be revamped with old and new.

Take note to the last 2k1 revival, they just brought the server back to what it was. Didn't last for very long.

KuJi · #19 10-23-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

By todays standards there is going to be a **** load more things other than the levels that are going to need improvement. The entire server is going to need to be revamped with old and new.

Take note to the last 2k1 revival, they just brought the server back to what it was. Didn't last for very long.

The release (even lance said) shouldn't of happened but they said Stefan pressured him to do it... so?

There will be new things, just wait and help out

Crono · #20 10-23-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Take note to the last 2k1 revival, they just brought the server back to what it was. Didn't last for very long.

Because they didn't add updates and stuff for us to spend money on.

KuJi · #21 10-24-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Because they didn't add updates and stuff for us to spend money on.

lol.... I had 1100+ gralats too =(

Eagle · #22 10-24-2006, 03:22 AM

Spyder pops on Graal every now and then. Ask him if he comes on. =]

KuJi · #23 10-24-2006, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagle

Spyder pops on Graal every now and then. Ask him if he comes on. =]

I'd love too, but he hasn't been on in a while =(.

Biggest problem (outside of designing levels) is to figure out how some levels will go on the gmap, we will most likely expand upon the current levels etc.

Infernix · #24 10-27-2006, 04:37 AM

I wouldnt even compare to any of those servers. I just dont understand why people dont relize how ****ty older servers are when you try to play them at this day and time.

KuJi · #25 10-27-2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

Honestly im not interested in hearing any more about this project

new levels
new npcs

If you uploaded EL just as it was right now, with nothing else, it would be awesome. Though here is the problem

in this day and age EL would be comparable to almost every server on the Playerlist now, Npulse, Delteria, even Babylon.

The server presents nothing new or interesting that people need and want to be brought to a server

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Originally Posted by Infernix

I wouldnt even compare to any of those servers. I just dont understand why people dont relize how ****ty older servers are when you try to play them at this day and time.

Just wait? Told him not to post it until theres some presentable.

But P.S.. G2k1 is being revived omgiawd?!

Andy0687 · #26 10-27-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Just wait? Told him not to post it until theres some presentable.

Will you be able to present to me a community that rivals that of the old EL?

No?

Case Closed.

KuJi · #27 10-27-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

Will you be able to present to me a community that rivals that of the old EL?

No?

Case Closed.

Niether will Graal2001's revival. You really need to stop thinking about the old players, and find stuff for the new players as well.

There will be all content from old EL w/ the npcs etc.., but there will DEFINITELY be new content as well.

Infernix · #28 10-27-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Niether will Graal2001's revival. You really need to stop thinking about the old players, and find stuff for the new players as well.

There will be all content from old EL w/ the npcs etc.., but there will DEFINITELY be new content as well.

rofl you dont know **** about 2k1 as it is right now.

Lord Sephiroth · #29 10-28-2006, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Niether will Graal2001's revival. You really need to stop thinking about the old players, and find stuff for the new players as well.

You missed his point completely. He's talking about how an EL revival is being put on this pedistal when in reality no one is ever going to bring back EL as good as it was. No matter how much you put into it, it's just going to be a new server with an old name.

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Originally Posted by KuJi

So you work on some **** server-redo... not THE graal2001

Same thing applies to you and Elven Lands.

MysticX2X · #30 10-28-2006, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Niether will Graal2001's revival. You really need to stop thinking about the old players, and find stuff for the new players as well.

There will be all content from old EL w/ the npcs etc.., but there will DEFINITELY be new content as well.

Lol early 2003 buddy, i got a p2p in late 2004 though. So shush and calm down. But personally i wouldnt think you would be fit to manage this playerworld as seeing you manage graal x as well. And you were trying to start some idea on a retarded pokemon bomy server. I'm entitled for my full opinion of what you are doing right now, maybe i havent been there but im looking at whats being done. But hey whats with all the flaming at me, take the criticism yo.

And as what you said to infernix, maybe thats not his original account. You act like people need respect for how long they have been here, and well i could respect someone who has been a day here than h ow you are acting right now.

I want to laugh when this server fails, it was probably good back then since it had a community and graal was sort of new back then.

Also tom, the revival wasnt good at all, at least to my opinion. It was cool for 2 days.

Infernix · #31 10-27-2006, 10:18 PM

Well last I heard Bomy Lands or 2k1 that Koni was working on was called graal2001 as well.

And Im pretty damn sure Im a Lat there. Just not under this account name lol.

Infernix · #32 10-28-2006, 02:17 AM

Well considering how mature Kuji is I am sure he is going to make EL incredibly successful.

/Sarcasm

If you plan on even attempting to build server you better pump out a lot more respect to people than you show now. Cause you cant do **** on your own. But your always welcome to try and fail though.

KuJi · #33 10-28-2006, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Well considering how mature Kuji is I am sure he is going to make EL incredibly successful.

/Sarcasm

If you plan on even attempting to build server you better pump out a lot more respect to people than you show now. Cause you cant do **** on your own. But your always welcome to try and fail though.

hey fyi.. graal x. I have built it, and according to Houdiniman I passed.. ohmm?

And I script, and I have tons of friends who GFX. And some that LAT.

But hey, LAT is a worthless job that couldn't help you w/ anything in your life.. how sad =(.

Age 24 - Infernix:
LOLZ I MADE A NEW GRAAL LVL ITS HAWT OMIGAWD

o fyi.. I don't have respect for people like this:
Join Date: May 2005

And to even talk about Elven Lands when they know **** about it, or anything at all because they are ****in noob ass *****es.. k?

Infernix · #34 10-28-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

hey fyi.. graal x. I have built it, and according to Houdiniman I passed.. ohmm?

And I script, and I have tons of friends who GFX. And some that LAT.

But hey, LAT is a worthless job that couldn't help you w/ anything in your life.. how sad =(.

Age 24 - Infernix:
LOLZ I MADE A NEW GRAAL LVL ITS HAWT OMIGAWD

o fyi.. I don't have respect for people like this:
Join Date: May 2005

And to even talk about Elven Lands when they know **** about it, or anything at all because they are ****in noob ass *****es.. k?

Im not Age 24 lol for one and not even close.

2nd, Im sure youll be good building a server without any levels. (Oddly enough level designing is a thing they do in ahh like every game that exist.)

lol and you rlly think I started playing graal in 2005? Take note that once again you dont even know who I am.Guess I should assume you started playing in 2004 right? O and I didnt know respect was based on when you started playing graal. Guess you dont have respect for a lot of people in this world.

And According to Houdiniman what? You think because you get props for a PWA your cool? O god.

GJ at ruining your own thread though bud, EL is gonna go far.

Edit:Yea Mystic has it right about my account, I own about 3 of them and just choose to post on these fourms with this one.

KuJi · #35 10-28-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Im not Age 24 lol for one and not even close.

2nd, Im sure youll be good building a server without any levels. (Oddly enough level designing is a thing they do in ahh like every game that exist.)

lol and you rlly think I started playing graal in 2005? Take note that once again you dont even know who I am.Guess I should assume you started playing in 2004 right? O and I didnt know respect was based on when you started playing graal. Guess you dont have respect for a lot of people in this world.

And According to Houdiniman what? You think because you get props for a PWA your cool? O god.

GJ at ruining your own thread though bud, EL is gonna go far.

Edit:Yea Mystic has it right about my account, I own about 3 of them and just choose to post on these fourms with this one.

I have over like 9 accounts, and a forum account from 2001, kthx.

MysticX2X · #36 10-28-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

I have over like 9 accounts, and a forum account from 2001, kthx.

He never said you didnt.

KuJi · #37 10-28-2006, 04:58 PM

o pff, that pokemon server woulda probally held more players then UN.

But hey I didn't have time to make such a big project (as well as Graal X).

But whatever, yall can sit on your fat asses and complain about it, just don't want to see yall on any server I make because you just complain about **** up your ass.

Darlene159 · #38 10-28-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

But whatever, yall can sit on your fat asses and complain about it, just don't want to see yall on any server I make because you just complain about **** up your ass.

I hate to say it, but isn't this what you are doing in other peoples threads regarding their Playerworlds?
Some of these playerworld topics are becomming rediculous, as they are just people arguing back and forth about who's pw is better, or who copied who.
Competing isn't a bad thing, but there is such a thing as going too far.

KuJi · #39 10-28-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I hate to say it, but isn't this what you are doing in other peoples threads regarding their Playerworlds?

Definitely. But I can careless?

I don't want to hear people talk about a server they didn't even ****in play 6 years ago, k?

If they did play it.. then I can care to take there opinions.. but if they are just saying **** out there ass like these two they can go **** themselfs and sit there asses back on there seat for the next 60 years until they die being a 600 pound obese old man.
k?

MysticX2X · #40 10-28-2006, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi

Definitely. But I can careless?

I don't want to hear people talk about a server they didn't even ****in play 6 years ago, k?

If they did play it.. then I can care to take there opinions.. but if they are just saying **** out there ass like these two they can go **** themselfs and sit there asses back on there seat for the next 60 years until they die being a 600 pound obese old man.
k?

Theres the point, that server is old. And it wont be successful. I know enough to criticize what you and devil are doing. And im happy i didnt play graal for that long. I would just hate to.