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ldhfd 10-14-2009 12:02 AM

New Player Advice
 
So I just started playing era. I'm pretty much still a greenhorn, but i got the gist of things and started to mine grind. The only problem i see is, that i can make about 1.6k-2k cash an hour through mining. But most of the guns i would like to have, pbp, smgpk, etc. Are just so madly expensive, i'm losing my motivation to continue.

Most of the advice i received was just buy a cheap gun and stick with it until the system changes. but i can't help but wonder how people get these guns in the first place, especially those with 0 mining level. Any advice how i can make it in this economy that is difficult accumulate the money needed for the market prices?

Also, im saving for an m4 if anyone wants to sell me one. (have 31k at the time i made this post.) :D

Frankie 10-14-2009 12:58 AM

the best advice I can give you is to stop playing as soon as you can.

DustyPorViva 10-14-2009 01:02 AM

Make friends.

alskdjfhg 10-14-2009 02:09 AM

There is this cool little thing I like to call borrowing weapons from someone forever.

xnervNATx 10-14-2009 02:15 AM

getting cash some years ago wasnt so hard because people dupped dupped and dupped, pretty much every one with high guns were dupper, want an advice? leave while you can, era is pretty boring and wont change until they fix the economy and reset everything. they wont do it because high staffs got the best stuffs on the server(bow,2 millions hats,10 millions guns,etc.) and pretty much because every business is run by inactive people OR staff.

LordSquirt 10-14-2009 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1530181)
getting cash some years ago wasnt so hard because people dupped dupped and dupped, pretty much every one with high guns were dupper, want an advice? leave while you can, era is pretty boring and wont change until they fix the economy and reset everything. they wont do it because high staffs got the best stuffs on the server(bow,2 millions hats,10 millions guns,etc.) and pretty much because every business is run by inactive people OR staff.

What are you talking about?

I don't think any of the staff could be considered rich. I could be forgetting people, but I don't think any of my PRs or the Dev staff are rich. Also, most businesses are run by PLAYERS. Such as DD, DH, AM, GP, EH, etc. The only one that could be considered owned by a player is PPA since i'm a council there, but like I just said I'm council member not a owner.

Also, we aren't against a reset. However, there is no point of resetting when there is things that need to be fixed and projects needed to be done before hand. Continuously resetting is not a long term fix, and a long term fix is exactly what we need.

ldhfd 10-14-2009 03:44 AM

Spoke with the co-owner of gunpoint just recently. In a nutshell, he explained once your mining level hits 25, you begin to mine rocks at a very fast pace and money starts to come in easily.

I'm a pro basement dweller :p so i think 2 weeks of grinding in the mines should get me where i want to be.

I find era fun, a lot of people tell me its dying or that its no longer as fun as it used to be, but i find its a great server nonetheless. Now i just have to join a gang to experience the raiding stuff too. :D

the only fear i have are resets. should i worry about any future server resets?

Frankie 10-14-2009 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ldhfd (Post 1530206)
Spoke with the co-owner of gunpoint just recently. In a nutshell, he explained once your mining level hits 25, you begin to mine rocks at a very fast pace and money starts to come in easily.

I'm a pro basement dweller :p so i think 2 weeks of grinding in the mines should get me where i want to be.

I find era fun, a lot of people tell me its dying or that its no longer as fun as it used to be, but i find its a great server nonetheless. Now i just have to join a gang to experience the raiding stuff too. :D

the only fear i have are resets. should i worry about any future server resets?

no worries at all. a reset would require the staff to actually get their **** together. we all know the success on era as a staff team is just a myth.

xnervNATx 10-14-2009 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1530197)
What are you talking about?

I don't think any of the staff could be considered rich. I could be forgetting people, but I don't think any of my PRs or the Dev staff are rich. Also, most businesses are run by PLAYERS. Such as DD, DH, AM, GP, EH, etc. The only one that could be considered owned by a player is PPA since i'm a council there, but like I just said I'm council member not a owner.

Also, we aren't against a reset. However, there is no point of resetting when there is things that need to be fixed and projects needed to be done before hand. Continuously resetting is not a long term fix, and a long term fix is exactly what we need.

not rich as in having millions in bank, but having rare guns + rare hats

ldhfd 10-14-2009 05:28 AM

Was it always so difficult to get a job at one of the player run gun stores? I just asked the owner of ammo mart if i could have a job, and i get a response i would expect from a 10 yr old with tourettes.

papajchris 10-14-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ldhfd (Post 1530229)
Was it always so difficult to get a job at one of the player run gun stores? I just asked the owner of ammo mart if i could have a job, and i get a response i would expect from a 10 yr old with tourettes.

Do not get a job for a business. Unless things have changed in the past few months, i highly suggest doing other things. Ex: Pick flowers, or sell lead/iron to businesses. Most businesses will actually buy lead from you for more than they pay their workers per lead.

Also my advice, DON't TRUST ANYONE. Also, IF ITS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT IS. Follow those rules, and you'll be fine.

Oh yeah, don't be afraid to PM a PR for any questions, they got some cool PR's! :)

MontyPython 10-14-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1530197)
What are you talking about?

I don't think any of the staff could be considered rich. I could be forgetting people...


I think you're forgetting me. I've got dual golden uzis and at least 3,000 throwing knives.


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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1530222)
not rich as in having millions in bank, but having rare guns + rare hats

Most of those hats aren't real. /sethat

Pelikano 10-15-2009 12:08 PM

Look at Squirt, he started... when? 2008? And is one of the richest people.

LordSquirt 10-15-2009 01:13 PM

Why does it matter that I started in 2008? I have around 2.5k hours on that server.

Pelikano 10-15-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1530569)
Why does it matter that I started in 2008? I have around 2.5k hours on that server.

neerd!!! ;)

Nah, it matter, because a looong time ago you could actually make money, but 2008 it's pretty impossible to get rich without having influences on ETAs stocking items for you ;)


Oh and what makes you guys think that you can achieve a long term fix? How are you different from all the other people that failed?

ldhfd 10-15-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelikano (Post 1530572)
neerd!!! ;)

Nah, it matter, because a looong time ago you could actually make money, but 2008 it's pretty impossible to get rich without having influences on ETAs stocking items for you ;)


Oh and what makes you guys think that you can achieve a long term fix? How are you different from all the other people that failed?

I'm assuming you're talking about the economy?

Hmm. Its a pretty common idea, but mine is to add a few daily quests. Nothing amazing, Kill 20 zombies for 500$ would be good. Also a drop system where killing npcs would have some worth, since you could get vendorable items and (very rare chance) weapons.

So if you added all the currently discontinued items to a rare loot drop table. The values might go down. I'm pretty sure anyone that knows how to use a keyboard can kill a zombie. :D

cbk1994 10-15-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ldhfd (Post 1530611)
I'm assuming you're talking about the economy?

Hmm. Its a pretty common idea, but mine is to add a few daily quests. Nothing amazing, Kill 20 zombies for 500$ would be good. Also a drop system where killing npcs would have some worth, since you could get vendorable items and (very rare chance) weapons.

So if you added all the currently discontinued items to a rare loot drop table. The values might go down. I'm pretty sure anyone that knows how to use a keyboard can kill a zombie. :D

This is Era we're talking about, lol

Jcs1919 10-15-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1530630)
This is Era we're talking about, lol

lol

ldhfd 10-15-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1530630)
This is Era we're talking about, lol

Yep. But the system isnt that limited to not being able to do a quest once everyday. (Although the loot tables I would only be making guesses)


(response to a pm)
And no, i don't think we should rename the server to "World of Eracraft" :p

Pelikano 10-15-2009 08:22 PM

You played too much COD 5 Nazi Zombies

Venom_Fish 10-15-2009 11:19 PM

It matters alot that you started in 2008. You've only seen Era "as-is", you don't know what a "good" era looks like, let alone have an idea of how to work toward one.
Thats just 1 of the many reasons as to why your started a year ago matters.

LordSquirt 10-15-2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom_Fish (Post 1530716)
It matters alot that you started in 2008. You've only seen Era "as-is", you don't know what a "good" era looks like, let alone have an idea of how to work toward one.
Thats just 1 of the many reasons as to why your started a year ago matters.

I was talking about what my one year of playing has to do with having items.

Also, to Sam, it's not hard to get money. I worked my butt off in Ammo Mart and went all the way to Co-Owner and got a lot of money through things like that.

xnervNATx 10-16-2009 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1530720)
I was talking about what my one year of playing has to do with having items.

Also, to Sam, it's not hard to get money. I worked my butt off in Ammo Mart and went all the way to Co-Owner and got a lot of money through things like that.

yea i asked all the owner to hire me and i got answered by a mental kid.

Vman13x 10-16-2009 03:09 AM

Hahaha danny (owner of AM) would say stuff like that.

Anyways squirt also got rich from being on gp/pr tag everytime he was on. An ec ever 7 hours adds up eventually.

Era is boring!!!!

cbk1994 10-16-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1530788)
Anyways squirt also got rich from being on gp/pr tag everytime he was on. An ec ever 7 hours adds up eventually.

I guarantee you can get way more than that as a player.

ldhfd 10-16-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1530905)
I guarantee you can get way more than that as a player.

I got my m4 yesterday.

A nice gent sold it for 37k.

Hmm. now i need to level strength so i can get back up to 1.08 speed.

*sigh* the grinding never ends. :asleep:

also i want to thank everyone who helped me in this thread. I learned quite a bit this past week. I'm safe knowing the era forums is a shining beacon in what seems to be dark times on this server.

Pelikano 10-16-2009 07:24 PM

Squirt got rich once he got his Bow - End of Story :D

Who cares about Squirt being rich anyway? Let's just ****ing fix Era - together!

Dnegel 10-16-2009 07:36 PM

If just Graal were adverisised, and Era could start with selling the guns that arent in shops, like before. A Glock 17 aint worth alot IN Real Life ( I know it's a game... ) And it aint rare neither... We could have some reality you know.

Pelikano 10-16-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnegel (Post 1530954)
If just Graal were adverisised, and Era could start with selling the guns that arent in shops, like before. A Glock 17 aint worth alot IN Real Life ( I know it's a game... ) And it aint rare neither... We could have some reality you know.

Having guns that are not sold in a shop was the most retarded idea ever.

salesman 10-16-2009 09:11 PM

Most guns used to sell in player-owned shops, but they were all closed down.

Dnegel 10-16-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1531016)
Most guns used to sell in player-owned shops, but they were all closed down.

Which made the price range of guns rise to the skies years after, and they will keep rising if they dont come back in the shops. !pissed!

DarkRenji 10-17-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1530105)
the best advice I can give you is to stop playing as soon as you can.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1530115)
Make friends.

Yes go make friends so that when you turn your back on them they will steal all of your items.

Dnegel 10-17-2009 11:37 AM

My advice is to just try enjoy the game, and get friends that REALLY can be good friends.

Venom_Fish 10-17-2009 08:35 PM

My advice to all of you is, stop worrying about achieving items. Use what you have, goto the spar arena and put it to use. Rather than seeking temporary things, go and try to improve your skill, something that is infinite and can't be reset, removed, nerfed, etc etc.

After that, everything on Era will be easy for you.. I promise.

Dnegel 10-18-2009 12:09 AM

Yes, Venom fish got a good point. :o

Before everyone were using uzi's and just PK all day. That was so neat!

cbk1994 10-18-2009 12:17 AM

I agree with the notion of limiting the variety in guns; the days where AK's were top dog, and most people used Uzis because they couldn't afford the ammo were golden.

However, Sales does not agree with me in this aspect ^^.

Dnegel 10-18-2009 01:30 AM

It would be nice to just reset everything, and then see everyone run around with nifty little uzi's and handguns, and someone with ak47's ( :O )!

That would be so great!

Venom_Fish 10-18-2009 07:39 PM

That is a naive notion. Variety in guns is a huge asset to gameplay, expecially on a game that is already on its edge for new content, you don't need to be removing things... expecially things that revolve around the core of the game, like Guns. More guns the merrier, regardless of how you look at it.


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