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haro41 04-20-2005 02:39 PM

Kai busts out the trusty thesaurus! ^^ lol


anyway I kinda have to question the motive for creating a graal news site, when there are several other sources to asertain this same information, which is already organized quite well in this forum.

Inspiration 04-20-2005 02:44 PM

My total point is this: Everything notable is announced on this forum, with a plus. Here, you either get the information from the source, or the source has the chance to add their input. There is no middle man.

If Joe Manager quits on Playerworld X, he can come here, state his reasons why, and everyone can discuss them. You don't have some 15 year old "reporter" twisting his words, and adding their own point of view, due to a lack of knowledge about how journalism is supposed to work.

So now, instead of getting your information from a second party source, you're getting it directly from the person, and you're reading the views of many others who have insight into the situation. Instead of getting someone elses opinion, you can form your own using all the information at hand.

I do not see how this project is at all useful. At best, any news written there would have already been posted on these forums hours prior, unless Unixmad, Stefan, and Server managers plan on giving Bef tons of information before anyone else knows, which would be a questionable action.

This project would be helpful if Graal was a much larger community with a lot more happening on a daily basis. Currently however, I just see it as an unneeded way for people to gain "status" in the community.

Googi 04-20-2005 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
This project would be helpful if Graal was a much larger community with a lot more happening on a daily basis. Currently however, I just see it as an unneeded way for people to gain "status" in the community.

+reviews

Inspiration 04-20-2005 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
+reviews

Reviews of what?

Googi 04-20-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
Reviews of what?

Playerworlds.

Inspiration 04-20-2005 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Playerworlds.

Why would I want someone elses review of a playerworld, when I myself can log on and form my own opinion?

In what way is it superior for them to post such a review on a "news" site, instead of on the forums where it can be talked about?

Googi 04-20-2005 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
Why would I want someone elses review of a playerworld, when I myself can log on and form my own opinion?

In what way is it superior for them to post such a review on a "news" site, instead of on the forums where it can be talked about?

Sure, you can get the information, but the review itself might be good.

Inspiration 04-20-2005 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Sure, you can get the information, but the review itself might be good.


Yeah, and it also might be full of negative bias due to a grudge aganist a member of the staff on that playerworld.

Why is it a better action to post such a review on a website rather than a forum where it can be discussed?

Googi 04-20-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
Why is it a better action to post such a review on a website rather than a forum where it can be discussed?

It isn't, but if the review was only the webiste, you'd have to go to the website, whereas with News you can go to the forums or the website, because News is released by the Graal staff, but with a review, the creator of the review decides where they want to put it.

And, as with the GraalWiki, there are some things you can say on a website that you can't say on the forums.

Mitch 04-20-2005 04:55 PM

Reviews in most cases are others opinions on things. For instance a movie reviewer writes his opinion of the movie on official sites and others read them to decide whether they want to see the movie or not. As you can tell, reviews exist so you can compare your opinion with someone else's.

Kaimetsu 04-20-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by haro41
Kai busts out the trusty thesaurus! ^^

Quieten down, bratchild. If somebody uses words that you don't understand, it doesn't imply that they're cheating. You need to accept that some people are just better than you.

Fry 04-20-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
Why would I want someone elses review of a playerworld, when I myself can log on and form my own opinion?

But you have to play the playerworld for while in order to form your own opinion, and with such an amount of playerworlds I'm not sure if everyone wants to do that.

Inspiration 04-20-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
News is released by the Graal staff, but with a review, the creator of the review decides where they want to put it.

Okay, but why is it impossible that such a review could not exist on the forums?

Inspiration 04-20-2005 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fry
But you have to play the playerworld for while in order to form your own opinion, and with such an amount of playerworlds I'm not sure if everyone wants to do that.

Most playerworlds are under construction, and, thusly, are not ready to be played or reviewed. There are only a handful of worlds ready for such reviewing, and those are mostly under the hosted and classic tabs.

I believe there was already an issue in the past with Bef reviewing a world that was not yet ready for public criticism.

WanDaMan 04-20-2005 05:48 PM

You post the website people sign up and just ditch it. Bef, you need to get people interested somehow.

bef 04-20-2005 11:23 PM

Hah you see - I did post reviews on these very forums and got cussed out because I am not an official playerworld reviewer. - you cant win unless you change the game, I for one am changing the game.

Inspiration 04-20-2005 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bef
Hah you see - I did post reviews on these very forums and got cussed out because I am not an official playerworld reviewer. - you cant win unless you change the game, I for one am changing the game.

Changing the game how? Creating a sub-par news site and throwing out non-insightful biased playerworld reviews will not earn you respect from the players.

Hiro 04-21-2005 01:56 AM

Get people who can actually write and your in the good.

bef 04-22-2005 01:04 AM

The current team is:
CJH, Daisetsu, Googi, Hitmanjack, Hotrian, Israfel, Napo and Myself.

Kaimetsu 04-22-2005 01:07 AM

So when are we gonna see some actual news?

Zero Hour 04-22-2005 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
So when are we gonna see some actual news?

They first need to make some!

Inspiration 04-22-2005 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
They first need to make some!

I could think of at least 4-5 things they could make an article on right now, so it should not be hard at all.

Googi 04-22-2005 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
So when are we gonna see some actual news?

Right now.

http://www.graalnews.net/content.php?article.16

Inspiration 04-22-2005 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Hahaha.

As far as being informative goes, that sucked. However, it was worth multiple laughs IRL.

More fit for The Onion than the New York Times, for sure.

Googi 04-22-2005 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspiration
As far as being informative goes, that sucked. However, it was worth multiple laughs IRL.

More fit for The Onion than the New York Times, for sure.

Did you know Era had a new manager before I made that article? Because I didn't.

Kaimetsu 04-22-2005 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi

Man, you should be the one running that site :D

James205 04-22-2005 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspiration
Hahaha.

As far as being informative goes, that sucked. However, it was worth multiple laughs IRL.

More fit for The Onion than the New York Times, for sure.

The point of Graal News would obviously be for fun? And like Bef said when someone posts a review they get flamed for having there own opinions. I personally don't like posting on the graal forums, and there are tons of issues that happen on playerworlds that you dont hear on this board.

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Originally Posted by Googi
Did you know Era had a new manager before I made that article? Because I didn't.

haha didn't see your post, that's exactly what I was talking about.

Darlene159 04-22-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Did you know Era had a new manager before I made that article? Because I didn't.

Pretty sure it was posted on these forums somewhere, I remember reading it.

Nice article for a laugh
^^

Inspiration 04-22-2005 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
Did you know Era had a new manager before I made that article? Because I didn't.

Yeah, but that's because I know Rick and I play Era now and then.



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Originally Posted by James205
And like Bef said when someone posts a review they get flamed for having there own opinions.

Yeah good thing I didn't flame him or tell him anything negative about the ariticle or that would be true.

haro41 04-22-2005 04:06 PM

It may not exactly be informative about graal news, but its fun to read an opinion of stuff happening in the community.

notoalpena 04-22-2005 09:12 PM

I LUDA DOES AGREE WITH HARO41,but its annoying how bef asked me 10 times a day to support graalnews !pissed!

Minoc 04-23-2005 02:49 PM

A nice example of the Graal News community:
http://www.graalnews.net/forum_viewtopic.php?2.3

>_________________________>

Unpredlctable 04-23-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc
A nice example of the Graal News community:
http://www.graalnews.net/forum_viewtopic.php?2.3

>_________________________>

Wow... that's all I can say... wow.

Darlene159 04-23-2005 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minoc
A nice example of the Graal News community:
http://www.graalnews.net/forum_viewtopic.php?2.3

>_________________________>

Inquiring minds want to know
>_<

Googi 04-23-2005 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Minoc
A nice example of the Graal News community:
http://www.graalnews.net/forum_viewtopic.php?2.3

>_________________________>

Haha. I'll do an article on something like this sometime, it will be awesome.

KuJi 04-25-2005 08:07 AM

Rofl, I am going to buy graalnews.org and host it. Then brute force their website, take all the codes etc.. and put it up on my site. Then pay a bunch of people 5.00$ per 5 articles they get. Then I will be more popular then you guys.

*Does evil laugh*

Or i can just leave a blank page on the site and still be more popular as that article sucked. ;-). It didn't even have to do anything with Era...at all. And I've known about the new manager since the day it happened and I don't even play Era ;-)

HoudiniMan 04-25-2005 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KuJi
[Bad things]

*Does evil laugh*

Or i can just leave a blank page on the site and still be more popular as that article sucked. ;-). It didn't even have to do anything with Era...at all. And I've known about the new manager since the day it happened and I don't even play Era ;-)

Talking of illegal activities!!!

Now play nice :frown:


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