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Ghost Pirate 11-01-2002 07:12 AM

A Nercomancer isn't considered evil, most storys have them as evil. Working with the dead doesn't make you evil

aylad 11-01-2002 07:27 AM

Not-evil Necromancers: Doesn't anyone ever read the Diablo novels? And there's some non-evil necromancy in Magic:TG's Ice Age Cycle books, as well as (I think) Invasion block and Odyssey block. Almost certainly others as well; I just don't remember them right off hand.

Discharge 11-01-2002 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by aylad
Not-evil Necromancers: Doesn't anyone ever read the Diablo novels? And there's some non-evil necromancy in Magic:TG's Ice Age Cycle books, as well as (I think) Invasion block and Odyssey block. Almost certainly others as well; I just don't remember them right off hand.
=/ I've played alot of rp games and always the necromancer is evil. Maby axel is "not evil, not good" But what about the other guy?

A Paladin that works with a Necromancer that works with the undead does not seem to flow right? Catch my drift?

feivel 11-01-2002 10:32 AM

Like me hopping back and forth beteen Samurai and KT and at one point being both at the same time :D

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 11-01-2002 11:40 AM

Who ever said all Paladins had to be good too? You know how people always envision Knight as chivarilic and honorable? It's not so, in fact they trained at academies all day and they used brutal tactics, like kicking enemies while they were down, hitting them in sensitive spots and backstabbing. This is all true.

Discharge 11-01-2002 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
Who ever said all Paladins had to be good too? You know how people always envision Knight as chivarilic and honorable? It's not so, in fact they trained at academies all day and they used brutal tactics, like kicking enemies while they were down, hitting them in sensitive spots and backstabbing. This is all true.
If your not good, then your no where near a Paladin. Simple as that.

Quote: Most of us picture Paladins as knights in shining armor, traveling with their trusted steed across the land, delivering justice and leading by example. Still, the knight stereotype is based on Western (Christian) tradition. So, there are many who picture Paladins not as virtuous knights but as other virtuous champions. So, it is more accurate to refer to Paladins as champions of a cause. There is however a significant detail that we must take into account if we are to understand what Paladins really are. Should we define them as champions of a cause, terrorists, murderers or even ****** may as well be defined as Paladins. Paladins are not mere champions of a cause. They are Holy Champions, Heroes of the Light, Deliverers of Justice, Bringers of Peace. All Paladins follow a Universal Code that shapes and guides their vision of a better world. All Paladins are subject to the Divine Law that "All Life is sacred". A terrorist, who grossly violates this commandment, is not a Paladin. A fanatic of any religion or cause, who usually resorts in the extreme acts of killing and destroying, is not a Paladin. These acts are accounted as Evil and invoke the wrath of the Paladins. The Paladin is a Champion of Light and Goodness (universally defined).

Brad 11-02-2002 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge


If your not good, then your no where near a Paladin. Simple as that.

Quote: Most of us picture Paladins as knights in shining armor, traveling with their trusted steed across the land, delivering justice and leading by example. Still, the knight stereotype is based on Western (Christian) tradition. So, there are many who picture Paladins not as virtuous knights but as other virtuous champions. So, it is more accurate to refer to Paladins as champions of a cause. There is however a significant detail that we must take into account if we are to understand what Paladins really are. Should we define them as champions of a cause, terrorists, murderers or even ****** may as well be defined as Paladins. Paladins are not mere champions of a cause. They are Holy Champions, Heroes of the Light, Deliverers of Justice, Bringers of Peace. All Paladins follow a Universal Code that shapes and guides their vision of a better world. All Paladins are subject to the Divine Law that "All Life is sacred". A terrorist, who grossly violates this commandment, is not a Paladin. A fanatic of any religion or cause, who usually resorts in the extreme acts of killing and destroying, is not a Paladin. These acts are accounted as Evil and invoke the wrath of the Paladins. The Paladin is a Champion of Light and Goodness (universally defined).

Boring Character. "Brad walks by a burning town and he laughs. He sees a wounded man asking for a drink and pours out water 20 feet from him hahahahaha."

That is fun. Why be "good"?

BORING.


Being a complete ******* is great. I like being high ranked and a complete conceided ass.

MilkyWay0016 11-03-2002 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge


=/ I've played alot of rp games and always the necromancer is evil. Maby axel is "not evil, not good" But what about the other guy?

A Paladin that works with a Necromancer that works with the undead does not seem to flow right? Catch my drift?


Augh, to fustrating!!! I'm not saying you have to _help_ them, I saying that a good rping paladin should, in my opnion, try and stop teh necromacer from doing bad stuff! Or be really annoying and keep yelling at the necromacer to LIEK FOLLOW TEH PATH OF TEH LITE, MAN!

It makes more sense to me, anyway.

zell12 11-03-2002 02:44 AM

I don't think any of you get it, do you?

-Axel- 11-03-2002 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I don't think any of you get it, do you?
You leave Dustari because your RP Character "Can't be in a kingdom with someone who follows the darkness (Which I don't do) To join a kindom full of Orcs who (Last time I checked Orc info) Worship evil gods to run your own Providence of humans in a forgein land full of creatures that supposedly hate Humans."

=)

zell12 11-03-2002 08:08 AM

Orcs are not part of the forest kingdom.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 11-03-2002 01:27 PM

I think that ever since you left Dustari, Excalibue, that you've tried to quietly gouge the kingdom and sling mud at it every chance you get. I'm more specifically referring to the conversation we had friday.

Discharge 11-03-2002 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by -Axel-


You leave Dustari because your RP Character "Can't be in a kingdom with someone who follows the darkness (Which I don't do) To join a kindom full of Orcs who (Last time I checked Orc info) Worship evil gods to run your own Providence of humans in a forgein land full of creatures that supposedly hate Humans."

=)

No, thats where your wrong. We are going to rid Forest of evil Orcs.

zell12 11-04-2002 12:55 AM

Aftershock, I have no reason to hate Dustari all of a sudden. I'm just trying to find out why there are "good" Necromancers in your kingdom. o.O And about that conversation we had, I was just mad at Lord Guy because I think his name looks odd :\

MilkyWay0016 11-04-2002 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I was just mad at Lord Guy because I think his name looks odd :\

Which is always a good reason to get mad at someone :(

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 11-04-2002 01:59 PM

Guy is a French name. You told me the French don't belong in Dustari.

Well personally, who's to say? But then again, what does belong in Dustari? Who's ever heard of water dwellers (Zormites), and what kind of kingdom has Orcs, Elves, Humand and Dwarves living together? When was there ever magic in real life? Since when were monsters confined to dungeons? Then again, since when did monsters exsist.. let alone bouncing mushrooms and vicious rabbits?

Oh whoops! I forgot! What's Graal again.. oh... so it's not real life? Oh, you mean it's a fantasy... oh.. I see... well then, that settles it.

Please don't pick at little tiny details. It's so much easier to see the flaws on the other side of the fence, yet there is no need to bring them up. We never went around bashing forest, we'd hope you could do the same for Dustari.

zell12 11-05-2002 07:05 PM

I won't pick at the fact that Guy a a dumb ass with an "ih-so-orgional-name" that also scams. He scamed Johnnywelsh or someone from Zormite last night. ;(
Anyway, I still want to know why there are good Necromancers?

MilkyWay0016 11-05-2002 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
I won't pick at the fact that Guy a a dumb ass with an "ih-so-orgional-name" that also scams. He scamed Johnnywelsh or someone from Zormite last night. ;(
Anyway, I still want to know why there are good Necromancers?


And I still want to know why you are still bashing when Aftershock has made a thread against it.

zell12 11-06-2002 03:46 AM

I answered that. I am not trying to, but i'm not only seeing some flaws and some points about the kingdom I never saw before. Mabey im pointing them out to harshly. For that im sorry. :(
Just that, there are spanish names, english names, french names. Where was Dustari Orginated from? What place? I know its a fantash game, but guess what? I never heard tell of spanish and french people living together and fighting in the same kingdom. Nor have I seen humans fighting in a Forest nation. (Except in Lord of The Rings but that was a last resort type thing or something... not sure, im confused x.x)
And there are no Orc like beings in the kingdom itself.

ZanderX 11-06-2002 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
I answered that. I am not trying to, but i'm not only seeing some flaws and some points about the kingdom I never saw before. Mabey im pointing them out to harshly. For that im sorry. :(
Just that, there are spanish names, english names, french names. Where was Dustari Orginated from? What place? I know its a fantash game, but guess what? I never heard tell of spanish and french people living together and fighting in the same kingdom. Nor have I seen humans fighting in a Forest nation. (Except in Lord of The Rings but that was a last resort type thing or something... not sure, im confused x.x)
And there are no Orc like beings in the kingdom itself.

Dutch and Germans = fight for William of Orange in the 1600's. And he's British. They stay in England and live there and FIGHT for the monarchy in the future and end up training future generations of the British army.

It didn't "originate" anywhere. The original kingdom was "medieval", meaning that it was simply a wannabe medieval kingdom; it had no nationality, it had no origins. It was simply a kingdom.

zell12 11-06-2002 05:17 AM

That doesn't say anything about it. Its a group of people from all nationalities that just formed an empire. Its not very organized if its like that, no? :\

MilkyWay0016 11-06-2002 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
That doesn't say anything about it. Its a group of people from all nationalities that just formed an empire. Its not very organized if its like that, no? :\

It has a common theme.
Right now, Dustari is suppossed to be the -only- medival kingdom.
Pirates, Samurai, Zorimte are all rping as nonmedival themedkingdoms.

The problem just started when Forest tried to steal our theme,
I keep seeing forest 'Knights' which I think is very unfair.

Forest = FOREST them
_not medival_

Zurkiba 11-06-2002 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by MilkyWay0016



It has a common theme.
Right now, Dustari is suppossed to be the -only- medival kingdom.
Pirates, Samurai, Zorimte are all rping as nonmedival themedkingdoms.

The problem just started when Forest tried to steal our theme,
I keep seeing forest 'Knights' which I think is very unfair.

Forest = FOREST them
_not medival_

The total theme over all is fantasy... not medival... So therefore ranks such as Knight, Ranger, Wizard, etc, are all open game. Plus Forest's theme is "The Diverse Culture" meaning... we're all of the cultures living together.

So if you like I'll just make the Human Ranks something like "Human Person Who Is A Human Army Unit"...

gozenkenkaku 11-06-2002 11:01 PM

Forest is a democracy, Dustari is a Monarchy
there is a difference
Any Kingdom can have Knights, its is a title
It doesn't make any sense that one kingdom is Medieval and the others aren't. What is it now, time traveling X.X
You can say Dustari is King themed, but Medieval?
Medieval is a time, not a theme.

Ghost Pirate 11-07-2002 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba

The total theme over all is fantasy... not medival... So therefore ranks such as Knight, Ranger, Wizard, etc, are all open game. Plus Forest's theme is "The Diverse Culture" meaning... we're all of the cultures living together.

So if you like I'll just make the Human Ranks something like "Human Person Who Is A Human Army Unit"...

The Forest Theme is a Diverse Culture? Change the name then, "Forest" doesn't fit the grab back you have there.


All the Pirate ranks follow a Piratey theme, exluding the wizard/mage classes which try to follow a voodoo like theme (VOODOO AND PIRATES GO HAND AND HAND IN MONKEY ISLAND!)

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 11-07-2002 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
That doesn't say anything about it. Its a group of people from all nationalities that just formed an empire. Its not very organized if its like that, no? :\
Never heard of the Roman Empire, Holy Roman Empire or the age of Imperialism?

gozenkenkaku 11-07-2002 05:08 AM

An empire is a "nation" with many different provinces/territories

Zurkiba 11-07-2002 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by gozenkenkaku
An empire is a "nation" with many different provinces/territories
A better definition of empire...

Main Entry: em·pire
Pronunciation: 'em-"pIr
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French empire, empirie, from Latin imperium absolute authority, empire, from imperare
Date: 14th century
1 a (1) : a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority; especially : one having an emperor as chief of state (2) : the territory of such a political unit b : something resembling a political empire; especially : an extensive territory or enterprise under single domination or control
2 : imperial sovereignty, rule, or dominion

Discharge 11-10-2002 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Ghost Pirate


The Forest Theme is a Diverse Culture? Change the name then, "Forest" doesn't fit the grab back you have there.


All the Pirate ranks follow a Piratey theme, exluding the wizard/mage classes which try to follow a voodoo like theme (VOODOO AND PIRATES GO HAND AND HAND IN MONKEY ISLAND!)


Think of it as Elven, Dwarfs, Halflings, and some humans that all share the same culture which is living in the forest))
((The hell with monkey island, its funny but stupid. Grim Fandango is better :p))

Ghost Pirate 11-10-2002 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Discharge



Think of it as Elven, Dwarfs, Halflings, and some humans that all share the same culture which is living in the forest))
((The hell with monkey island, its funny but stupid. Grim Fandango is better :p))

Saying that doesn't make it any better.

HOW DARE YOU!
Grim Fandago was cool (Loved Glottis and his gambling problem)
But nothing can be Monkey Island! Grim Fandango can't even be compired to beat Monkey Island 2 (Monkey Island 4 uses the cool movement style which was seen in Grim Fandago)


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