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Old 03-20-2011, 10:02 PM
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1) So just to sum everything up it sounds like there will be a total of 4 different era servers and 4 different classic servers. iPhone, Facebook, PC, and Andriod?
2) Playerworlds will have a chance to become free to play once they create some type of cashshop for their server I assume. So for example how on the iphone server you can purchase gelats, house, guild, or what not if you do something similar to that for your server that your server will become free to play.
3) Staff still doesn't get compensated for their hard work. We bring the money into graal and we make graal but we get nothing in return except a better game lol.

So even if you don't have an iphone/driod/facebook this will still end up bringing more players to graal once servers are set up to be free to play. This could also encourage players who have quit to return to graal. The iphone servers gets about 1k+ each roughly so having a facebook servers and driod servers will probably tripple the ammount of people on graal and increase their revenue. So its good but could of been better.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:10 PM
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Happy about the Dev Tools...

Mixed feelings about Facebook app. Seems kind of silly to have so many servers...
Graal Classic for iPhone, Graal Classic for Android (unless adroid plays on iphone server), Graal Classic for Facebook, and Graal Classic?

Tbh, seems like a kick in the stomach to Thor and the like working on Classic pc.
"You're hard at work recreating the server? Oh, well, were just gonna release 4 identicle servers full of reused content. Kthxbai."
Unless of course you talked it over with the team at Classic...I somehow doubt that tho.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:17 PM
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Due to the release of 'Flash Graal' do you have plans to publish it on kongregate.com?
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:22 PM
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There are many directions a free-to-play server could possibly take: Facebook, iPhone, and Android. Now, if only there were some sort of motivation to create a free-to-play server. I do not see why any decent developer would want to create a quality free-to-play server for free.

The only reason iPhone Classic and iPhone Era were created is because they had PC counterparts to copy directly. New developer tools will be nice, however that alone will not motivate developers to create new free-to-play servers. Many people may feel that more servers is a bad idea, because it spreads out the Graal population onto too many servers, but when iPhone Era was released, iPhone Classic did not lose its playercount at all. This is because iEra was advertised as a new game in the app store. So, the iPhone Graal community was expanded, not spread out.

Creating new free-to-play servers with different gameplay styles would increase the Graal's base playercount. Which, in turn, would amount to more cash flow for Eurocenter. I just do not see it happening without developers having some sort of cash payment as incentive.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:26 PM
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The motivation is a larger playercount? Graal no longer offers unlimited classic accounts anymore right? So if you make your server capable of being free to play then it simply means more players for your server. For example Era, Zodiac, GK, Zone, and Maloria all could apply to be a free server by making cashshop items?
Also any current server in development right now would want to apply? Doesn't mean your starting from scratch and free server I am pretty sure he meant pc graal not andriod/iphone/facebook because you could already try and apply to be an iphone server.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:28 PM
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I think that those are some pretty cool updates.

Honestly, I know everyone has been complaining about how outdated the Graal Editor is for the past several years, and I'm kind of curious as to why you guys are still complaining? Seems like you guys just like to whine about things...

As far as Facebook and Android go, well, more publicity the better, I guess. Facebook will be cool, definitely will check it out, but will using the Facebook game give other Graalians links to my actual facebook page? Will their be privacy settings, or...?

And v6 is finally coming! That's awesome!

Good updates! This just goes to show that there is stuff actually going on behind seens; also, considering that there was more than one "news", that means Unixmad's thread from yesterday may have actually used good grammar!

Exciting! Good direction for Graal, in my opinion! Congratulations on pulling this off!
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On the other hand, free-to-play games, if unbalanced, could result in some consumers paying extremely large amounts of money, and we can certainly not expect to build a good relationship with our consumers in this fashion. In order to have a favorable long-term relationship, we would like to offer free-to-play games that are balanced and reasonable.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:36 PM
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So what does this mean about the client/downloadable graal? Is it going to be rendered useless once facebook graal hits?

Are all the servers on current PC graal going to be reset? Are we going to lose the ability to sethead/body etc?
Read "Era and classic".
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:38 PM
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So...does this mean subscriptions aren't changing either?

Is your solution to high priced subscriptions just "Go play it on Facebook instead"? o.o
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:40 PM
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:45 PM
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Ok...so let me get this straight...

Unixmad fully knows that the subscription system does not fit any audience well....and his solution is just to not advertise it, so people don't play it? o.O

Instead of waiting for servers to move to item based shop systems....why not just reduce the freaking price of the subscriptions.
I'm sure that there is a price that would fit it...if you assume every player will buy 2-3 items from a shop, or buy in-game currency...figure maybe 10 dollars or so.
Could even bump it to 15.

And just charge that...oh nvm, that would make too much sense.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:55 PM
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o_o So, when're we going to drop names like Classic and Era for something more modern and cool like Graal Swords and Graal Guns. And while we're updating to things like facebook and cash shops. Don't forget to start advertising.


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Old 03-20-2011, 11:00 PM
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Interesting! Will be sure to test this stuff out !

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Old 03-20-2011, 11:13 PM
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who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol
prob only new thing for dev part is hey kids u can make a server for facebook now and u pay us for u to make it then turn around and pay to play a server u made. im telling u pc is the main leg if it wasnt with us then there will be no graal general no era no zone,zodaic,atlanits,delteria,npluse,UN nothing ti would of been GK and classic thats it
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:21 PM
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who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol
You should read the OP before posting anything at all.
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:22 PM
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who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol
People who want them are talking about them.
It would be just splendid if we could get some new freaking dev tools.
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