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Old 12-16-2011, 11:42 AM
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First you gotta fix the broken voice chat that is already in the game, as far as i know, it only is broken for macs.
Pretty sure the existing voice functionality was using UDP which was removed in v6 on all platforms.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:20 PM
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This would actually be a huge step in the right direction for Graal to keep pace with less-prehistoric games.
I disagree. I actually believe that voice chat related stuff shouldn't be in any game, except for console games, because there you can't use any third party software for it. On the PC, though, Ventrilo, Teamspeak and Mumble are far superior to what any game can offer in terms of voice chat.
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Old 12-16-2011, 01:21 PM
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UDP screwed with the gameplay as well, as in you can not see certain people with their UDP on also, move around.
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:30 PM
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I disagree. I actually believe that voice chat related stuff shouldn't be in any game, except for console games, because there you can't use any third party software for it. On the PC, though, Ventrilo, Teamspeak and Mumble are far superior to what any game can offer in terms of voice chat.
And what if you're just playing by yourself? Kindly ask everyone on your team to join your Vent server?
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:08 PM
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UDP screwed with the gameplay as well, as in you can not see certain people with their UDP on also, move around.
UDP is glorious. Could've been implemented in a better way.


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And what if you're just playing by yourself? Kindly ask everyone on your team to join your Vent server?
You've got a point. I was just thinking about myself in this case, and I don't use voice chat to talk with strangers, ever.
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:32 PM
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Very few people would use it appropriately, the rest would use it call each other n-bombs and other racist terms.
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UDP is glorious. Could've been implemented in a better way.
TCP should have never been used for a game like Graal. You download assets and receive player and other updates via TCP, which is a terrible idea. That means that the game will stall out in connection, as TCP is a single stream which, when a packet is dropped or a lot of information needs to be transferred over time, will halt the ENTIRE stream, with no ability for player position updates or anything else to slip through while this data is being transferred. The real solution would've been to implement a reliability layer with ACK packets or timeouts over UDP, or use a pre-built one like ENet. Would've had a much better experience this way, but oh well.
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TCP should have never been used for a game like Graal. You download assets and receive player and other updates via TCP, which is a terrible idea. That means that the game will stall out in connection, as TCP is a single stream which, when a packet is dropped or a lot of information needs to be transferred over time, will halt the ENTIRE stream, with no ability for player position updates or anything else to slip through while this data is being transferred. The real solution would've been to implement a reliability layer with ACK packets or timeouts over UDP, or use a pre-built one like ENet. Would've had a much better experience this way, but oh well.
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:04 AM
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Very few people would use it appropriately, the rest would use it call each other n-bombs and other racist terms.
What i was thinking instead of it Public for all it can be made into a Party chat and you can invite or make it password Protected and their should be allot of channel's as well

Like a new tab called "Chat"

Where you can make your own Channel (Gold only otherwise trials will spam tons of channels) and name you channel and make it public or password protected and maybe invite only
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:26 AM
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:45 PM
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:01 PM
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vent is not ideal, so this might be a good idea but it would be useless atm since no gangs raid due to the ridiculous gang system
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