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Old 03-05-2010, 04:07 PM
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Old 03-05-2010, 04:46 PM
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still waiting for someone with actual guild history to take this position. hopefully hiro is wrong but i dont know. gl anyway
What are you guys expecting a Guilds Admin to do? All I see is that it's just a matter of seeing if any guilds are ready to be approved or not.
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What are you guys expecting a Guilds Admin to do? All I see is that it's just a matter of seeing if any guilds are ready to be approved or not.
They could expand their role to cover guild events, new guild features, etc. Otherwise scrap the position and have PWA take care of it instead.
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:04 PM
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They could expand their role to cover guild events, new guild features, etc. Otherwise scrap the position and have PWA take care of it instead.
Isn't that what server's should be doing? Last time I checked participation and interest in cross server events was pretty low, which would put cross server guild events in the same boat so that would just be a wasted effort.

New features on the website will never happen since the global guild system is fairly unchangeable by anyone except for Stefan. Functions to manage a global guild from the client would also require Stefan to provide the necessary functions to do so.

I don't think the Guilds Admin should have to do any advertising either since we have the Graal News Team to do so, this is just another thing to ask (Any guild events, etc.) to make news out of.

Edit: The PWA is taking care of it, Xor just has rights to do so which I assume was the point of this thread.
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Isn't that what server's should be doing? Last time I checked participation and interest in cross server events was pretty low, which would put cross server guild events in the same boat so that would just be a wasted effort.
When and where did you check? Cross server events have always been popular as proven by the real graalmypic event and cross-server sparring tournies (Delteria and Babylon had a history of this). The last time we tried to get a graalmypics going players showed a lot of interest.

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New features on the website will never happen since the global guild system is fairly unchangeable by anyone except for Stefan. Functions to manage a global guild from the client would also require Stefan to provide the necessary functions to do so.
I never said the Guilds Admin would be the one to implement them but, rather, present them. I know Tig started a thread when he was hired which was a step in the right direction.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=85088

I'm sure there are some little things we'd all like to see, with the Guild Admin being the perfect one to push for it. Moderators are here to moderate yet the dev mods sometimes do little events for posters to take part in.

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I meant if the GA's only job is to approve/deny applicants then there's no point in having one.
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:57 PM
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When and where did you check? Cross server events have always been popular as proven by the real graalmypic event and cross-server sparring tournies (Delteria and Babylon had a history of this). The last time we tried to get a graalmypics going players showed a lot of interest.
Yeah and that was how many years ago? I asked people on Zodiac if they wanted to do Graalympics and got nothing constructive out of it to convince me to want to do it.

The recent server war failure also makes me believe that it wouldn't succeed either.
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Yeah and that was how many years ago? I asked people on Zodiac if they wanted to do Graalympics and got nothing constructive out of it to convince me to want to do it.

The recent server war failure also makes me believe that it wouldn't succeed either.
We were working on a BI Graalmypics a year or two ago and both forum members and players from various servers showed interest in it. I can't really see Zodiac's core players (or even Era's for that matter) expecting to partake in global events but I'm pretty sure they'll come around. A lot of Zodiac's playerbase is from UN anyway. If by the recent "server war" you're referring to Era vs UN...well yeah that was pretty doomed to failure. No one really cared about it except Streety and a few Eranians.

The very recent UN guild spar tourney and of course the massive UN guild war from 1-2 years ago proves that guilds still have some life left in them. Naturally it's the servers that need to get involved, but there is still a lot of room for the Guilds Admin to be acting on. (Of course any updates to the guild system should be working to get more people involved, not only cater to a few guilds on UN.)
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Old 03-05-2010, 08:34 PM
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... room for the Guilds Admin to be acting on. (Of course any updates to the guild system should be working to get more people involved, not only cater to a few guilds on UN.)
Out of the top 3 servers (Zod, Era, and UN) only UN allows people to wear guild tags. Im sure that doesn't help the cause
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I don't know what you're talking about. I spoke to many Era players and they are pretty much thrilled to do a cross server event between any server.

Also, most of you are wrong about the so called "failed" cross server event. I spoke to UN players and they liked the idea as well. The reason it didn't go was something because the way we "approached" it. However, it was a joke for the most part and UN administration took it too seriously. The players though that I talked to liked the idea though. Also, one reason Streety declined was since he said it would take the focus off the development of UN. If the Guild Admin worked on it, this wouldn't happen (Even though my proposal wouldn't effect the development in any way).
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Out of the top 3 servers (Zod, Era, and UN) only UN allows people to wear guild tags. Im sure that doesn't help the cause
Zodiac's allowed Global Guilds for a while now, and the scripted guild system supports them as well.
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Out of the top 3 servers (Zod, Era, and UN) only UN allows people to wear guild tags. Im sure that doesn't help the cause
Also, while they can't really set their guild tag I've seen a parties called "Party BTK", so they still can communicate to each other like that.
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Also, while they can't really set their guild tag I've seen a parties called "Party BTK", so they still can communicate to each other like that.
You could make it so it's only possible to make/join a party with a global guilds name if you are actually in the guild itself. Would make global guilds still be useful on era.
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You could make it so it's only possible to make/join a party with a global guilds name if you are actually in the guild itself. Would make global guilds still be useful on era.
Which is why we need better support for global guilds. I planned to do this with a new gang system on Era using jerret's global guild stuff he shared in the code gallery, but a built-in isGlobalGuild()/other functions would be ideal.

Being able to manage your global guild in-game would be a huge step in the right direction imo.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:27 AM
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Wasn't there an idea to make a scripted Guild Control Panel so that you could manage your guild from inside the game without having to go to the website?

I would kind of like to see Era support global guilds now that the Gangs on the server are practically defunct.
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