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Old 11-06-2010, 03:35 PM
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Currently Graal only offer players to upgrade their accounts months and months at a time. These are the available packages, all packages gives you gelats and can be used for x amount of months:


  • 8 months for 24€ ($33.7), aka 3€ ($4.2) a month.
  • 12 months for 36€ ($50.5), aka 3€ ($4.2) a month.
  • 18 months for 48€ ($67.4), aka 2.6€ ($3.7) a month.
  • 24 months for 64€ ($89.8), aka 2.6€ ($3.7) a month.


First of all, I don't understand why the 12 month package isn't cheaper per month than the 8 month one, and the 24 month one not being cheaper than the 18 month one. That's a story for another day though.

What I'd like to suggest is that you add payment options for 1, 3 and 5 months. The majority of new players to Graal will not want to buy an account for 8 months before they've gotten into the game, no matter how cheap. If they were able to just get a month, play and see for themself if they like it or not, they are a lot more likely to upgrade to a bigger package next time.

People like me and any other active "oldbie" might get the bigger ones, but we already know what we're paying for.


So folks, including Stefan, what's your thoughts on this?
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:39 PM
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I think they're scrapping the monthly payments when v6 comes out and replacing it with server cash shops.
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Old 11-06-2010, 03:40 PM
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I think they're scrapping the monthly payments when v6 comes out and replacing it with server cash shops.
I remember reading something about that somewhere, and that would be awesome if it were to happen. I still think this deserves attention in the present though, v6 might be months away and new players won't wait until then before they decide to either upgrade or leave.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:09 PM
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The 36 euro option is giving 'more than 12 months', it's 13 1/3 months to be exact if you don't buy separate available in-game items (the 48 euro option gives 18 2/3 months, the 64 euro option 26 2/3).
Part of the reason why we don't offer cheaper credit card options is that the credit card fees and transaction cancelation fees make it less profitable.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:45 PM
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The 36 euro option is giving 'more than 12 months', it's 13 1/3 months to be exact if you don't buy separate available in-game items (the 48 euro option gives 18 2/3 months, the 64 euro option 26 2/3).
Part of the reason why we don't offer cheaper credit card options is that the credit card fees and transaction cancelation fees make it less profitable.
That makes sense but haven't you figured it out from iPhone the smaller payment choices will make people think "Oh I have so and so bucks, Why the f**k not?" but when they see these its like "Oh sh*t, I'm going to be basically be making a commitment here... I may not, games not that great anyway."

In short, Smaller choices and intervals will probably actually profit Better if you do it right.
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i like the idea of free play with cash shops.
seems more profitable by a long run and for some reason it just sounds evil and awesome.
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i like the idea of free play with cash shops.
seems more profitable by a long run and for some reason it just sounds evil and awesome.
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i like the idea of free play with cash shops.
seems more profitable by a long run and for some reason it just sounds evil and awesome.
are people still going to be known as Graal#'s? :o
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:37 AM
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are people still going to be known as Graal#'s? :o
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are people still going to be known as Graal#'s? :o
The two topics are unrelated, so it's unlikely to change just because of a change in payment plans.
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The two topics are unrelated, so it's unlikely to change just because of a change in payment plans.
No they aren't. l2p
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They're loosely related at best, but the point still stands that the Graal#'s are highly unlikely to be changed/removed at the change of a payment method.
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i like the idea of free play with cash shops.
seems more profitable by a long run and for some reason it just sounds evil and awesome.
what about being able to use graal$ to buy a gun or sword, also having a much larger cash shop.. I'm not really sure of how much of an 'economic impact' many of the servers would have, but I'm sure there is some sort of a middle ground with it..

i'd think f2p shouldn't be an option, but classic servers shouldn't be changed.
unless they Have to change. . . The Classic / gold is a good thing though, especially with the development servers. That being said can't see how alot of the people who have grown up on this, or played it for more than 5 years are strictly against paying a few dollars to support the servers and further Development of Graal..

i can see y if u have a classic account. idk not really @ all though

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Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I paid $50 for my account 8 years ago under the assumption that I would have a classic subscription for life. And if I am mistaken I bought my account under those terms.

Wouldn't it be illegal in some sense to revoke that?
that's the attitude bra. I don't think the player count has anything to do with the payment plans. And Or, wouldn't. There is only a lag of quality in some of the servers. My opinion is hypocritical because I can't explain why Zone has empty days at all. Being free game for so long and developing tendency of a 'open community ->staff economic flux' we'll say, so no one would like the idea of change or the idea 'professionalism' brought to most of the servers, anyone playing wouldn't really want that or consider it 'boring'. .

Things have been this way for a very long time, while its fun while it lasts, people know change is long overdue. That the game: graal, Deserves Change. so

i'm not saying everyone should be paying $ to play the game they love. Well I Am saying that. but what i'm really trying to say is idk why graal didn't blow up yet considering it's one of the 'Best Games' i've ever played, i'm sure most of the frequent players could concur ;]. More players to develop more servers more servers to develop more players. beget, beget, beget. I feel like Graal is at a tipping point and tuff decisions need to be made either way so I hope I don't cloud no ones judgment. I'm just trying to toss my 2 C at it u know.
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Cash shops are synonymous with every "free Korean MMO" ever. Once you delve into the cash shop market, be aware of who you're competing with and where you stand.
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