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Old 05-11-2011, 09:25 PM
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how about we charge a few cents every time you swing a sword or take a step or pull on a wall

then we can start charging a few cents for every time you try and talk on client. and then we can charge a few cents for every time you post on OGCC

with all these micro-payments, we won't even realize we're still paying full price!
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:06 AM
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I recall making an eventually deleted post within one of the earlier threads regarding this in the Era section, which was as follows:

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I hope you realise that if you provide customers with a bad deal there is a decreased chance that they will purchase from you again in future. Whereas if you provide customers a good deal there is an increased chance that they will make further purchases from you.
Interestingly I've had conversations with iPhone players on PC Classic where they've claimed that they have quit iClassic because of this new policy.
Undoubtedly anything that charges will always be unpopular to an extent and some will react more thoroughly than others, but it seems as if what as always been one of the biggest contributors to what makes Graal...... Graal, has been ruined.
There are some things you just not should put a price tag on.
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Old 05-14-2011, 12:08 AM
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:01 AM
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looks like the playercount has stayed static if you ask me
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:10 AM
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35 shields were uploaded this week, 318 the week before that, 653 two weeks ago, 658 three weeks ago, 375 four weeks ago.
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Seriously, you have ****-all for content and you're not exactly pulling in new developer talent, angling for prestigious titles should be your last concern.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:21 AM
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I hope you enjoy those 35 dollars Stefan. I really hope you do.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:26 AM
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I wonder if the creation of an "Upload Pack" which would allow an infinite number of future uploads but for a few dollars more could possibly achieve a finer balance between income and graphic uploads.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:32 AM
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I wonder if the creation of an "Upload Pack" which would allow an infinite number of future uploads but for a few dollars more could possibly achieve a finer balance between income and graphic uploads.
Still seems ridiculous to charge for uploads at all.

I want to know what was the logic behind this choice? Is the game not making enough money as it is? (Serious question)
Can the servers not take the amount of uploads/players on at a time?

If its space thats an issue, then this price still seems quite ridiculous. As i'm sure it doesn't cost 1 dollar for the extra space to host a couple KB file.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:36 AM
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you all know you can make in-game money from various jobs right?
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:43 AM
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Still seems ridiculous to charge for uploads at all.
In the matter of personal ideals I agree, this is detrimental to the fact that one of the greatest features of Graal as a game is that you can build your own unique identity, the often used excuse "optional customisation" simply doesn't cover it.
This is really one of the base foundations of the game they should be trying to build sell-able updates on-top of rather than market it directly, it essentially should be acting as a glue.

I'm only proposing the possibility of a fairer system on the assumption that the system won't be removed entirely.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:45 AM
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so what do you recommend? every 10 uploads you get one free?
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:51 AM
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I think its fair to charge 20k for a head, classic does it for ****ty heads all the time, this way you get to choose a head that you actually like, However I disagree to the payment of uploading a shield. Take the price of uploading a shield down to 500 which still requires work/money to obtain but you dont loose half your life in the process.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:57 AM
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so what do you recommend? every 10 uploads you get one free?
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I wonder if the creation of an "Upload Pack" which would allow an infinite number of future uploads but for a few dollars more could possibly achieve a finer balance between income and graphic uploads.
Would you rather have $35 for 35 shield uploads a week, or (hypothetically: give or take) $150 for 350 uploads a week?

I also believe this would act as a slight reciprocation for the fact that you pay to upload a graphic only for another player to then be able to wear that same graphic for free (assuming this is still an issue), as this price would be covering all future uploads you make.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:00 AM
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you all know you can make in-game money from various jobs right?
Perhaps on Era, but were talking about Classic, where there is no way to get money but by tedious multi-hour endeavors.

And thats the problem. If there were jobs to make money on Classic, this wouldn't be that much of an issue.
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Old 05-14-2011, 03:03 AM
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The ghetto farms okayish (1k-2k/hr, depending on how many noobs there are)... just give 2000 hours of your life to iClassic and your all set or you could just ruin your battery and afk the whole thing. Your choice.
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