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Old 03-22-2011, 04:05 AM
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Point proven. you want to know why Eurocenter stopped putting time in this game? Because of people like you who would develop for them. Where did that get you?
Ya, I guess we just helped Graal too much. I mean, who wouldn't take advantage of our being too helpful?
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:19 AM
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Side note: Looks like they updated from the ugly blue thing it used to be, I guess they could afford better web developers now.
it's still ugly though...
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:55 PM
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It's funny to see people complaining that "graal is dieing" but once we get some players the same people say "They scam us" (ok they were doing that before too).
We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
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It's funny to see people complaining that "graal is dieing" but once we get some players the same people say "They scam us" (ok they were doing that before too).
We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
Great to hear
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:13 PM
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We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
Well, If that's true then if you need a gani artist, thinktank, or just a kind public figure, just let me know for I have an open calendar.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:17 PM
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It's funny to see people complaining that "graal is dieing" but once we get some players the same people say "They scam us" (ok they were doing that before too).
We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
No one is saying you're scamming them. I think it's a matter of appreciation, or the lack of.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:11 PM
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It's funny to see people complaining that "graal is dieing" but once we get some players the same people say "They scam us" (ok they were doing that before too).
We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
Where are these players? They certainly aren't on PC graal. And what makes you think that Facebook graal will be a hit? This isn't 2001 anymore, there are THOUSANDS of other games like graal - with better graphics, support, and communities.

If you new anything at all about running a business, you would know that communication with your clients is essential. It's great you and Uni decided to drop by this week, but what about next week or the week after? You shouldn't be an impossible person to reach. Imagine if the Obama administration just went silent. The U.S. would be in the dark and I am sure much conspiracies and chaos would arise. The same is happening here. Want people to think Graal is alive? Give us an update once in a while, or heres one we can all agree on - Answer the ****ing question in the thread you post in. All to many times you ignore the main question of a topic. (Someone called Uni out on that earlier in this thread.) Use those things between your legs and people will begin to respect you once more.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:45 PM
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Where are these players? They certainly aren't on PC graal. And what makes you think that Facebook graal will be a hit? This isn't 2001 anymore, there are THOUSANDS of other games like graal - with better graphics, support, and communities.
If Angry Birds, Farmville, other "crappy" flash games can be hits. I believe Graal is just as able especially considering a lot of Graal's success is related to the social aspect of it and basically one of the only reasons it's still around today.
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We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
This is news. I look forward to hearing more about this.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:11 PM
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It's funny to see people complaining that "graal is dieing" but once we get some players the same people say "They scam us" (ok they were doing that before too).
We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
I think it's less about payment and more about the fact you're so detached from the developing community. You don't work with them as fellow Graal developers. You're not always here seeing what's being worked on and helping to push it along with your authority or giving them any sort of real help, there's no constantly being around to see what sort of things they need and what type of updates they - the lifeblood of Graal - prioritize. And then when updates like this come around, there's not even so much as a nod in the direction of the people who are really responsible, the ones who have been keeping Graal playable for nothing while you were off seeing how best to milk it.

You manage it like an already finished developing platform that no longer needs updates and marketing it like a kiddie, time-wasting game.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:08 PM
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We are trying to hire people from the Graal player base and also create ways for devs to make money by creating or managing servers, this is a work in progress.
I guess I'll wait for this to be implemented before I start working on my server then.

If I can earn even just $100 a day from Graal that'll probably be enough to get me to quit my current job and work on a server full time.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:11 PM
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I guess I'll wait for this to be implemented before I start working on my server then.

If I can earn even just $100 a day from Graal that'll probably be enough to get me to quit my current job and work on a server full time.
LOL. $100 a day? That's a hell of a lot of money, and the way you're so casual about it... LOL. "I'd be happy with only $100 a day. I could buy bread with that. Stale bread, but bread."

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Old 03-22-2011, 09:30 PM
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LOL. $100 a day? That's a hell of a lot of money, and the way you're so casual about it... LOL. "I'd be happy with only $100 a day. I could buy bread with that. Stale bread, but bread."

LOL.
A server with 1000 players per day would only need 1/3 of those players to spend $1 per day for a 30% cut to make about $100 a day.
If you're managing/developing full time (8 hours a day) 7 days a week then $700 a week only works out to be about $12.50 an hour.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:32 PM
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:34 PM
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A server with 1000 players per day would only need 1/3 of those players to spend $1 per day for a 30% cut to make about $100 a day.
If you're managing/developing full time (8 hours a day) 7 days a week then $700 a week only works out to be about $12.50 an hour.
Are you seriously developing 8 hours a day though? Also, you gotta think about server upkeep and other expenses on their end, and then the fact that you have a whole staff team too.
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