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Old 06-26-2009, 04:02 PM
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Okay so your hitting 60 dmg and your not satisfied? And I am guessing that this isn't even a crit hit.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:03 PM
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Lemme try and explain this to noobs.
Your Weapon = GOV right, what kind of dmg does Gov do? Oh Wait, yes Weapon magic. What is the resistance it goes with? Yes it is Magic Resist. How much resist does a RoS give? I dunno that out of my head but it is hell a lot less than a RoW thus my conclusion =
Your Dmg is round the 40 because his resistance ain't that low.

Uhm Storm, weapon magic doesn't fall under any resists
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:06 PM
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Then why do RoW users get more dmg when being hit by a Gov weapon than a person using rots.

I might be wrong I ain't to sure but I think that I am right.

Edit: must of been my imagination but still i assume that the 60 was considered as a normal hit, what was your crit? Mine highest crit is 82.

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Old 06-26-2009, 04:59 PM
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Okay so your hitting 60 dmg and your not satisfied? And I am guessing that this isn't even a crit hit.
No I am not happy. Why should I be happy when I only hit over 60 on criticals? I was happy with how it used to be. When the damage I dealt reflected my level and what my damage said in my stats. I was happy when my enhancements to my weapons actually meant something and were not just there to make it look "kewl" like they do now.

Iam not saying I always hit 200+ damage I am saying it was always high 90's or somewhere in the 100's. And when I did get critical hits it was somewhere in the vacinity of what my max damage said in my stats. It was rare but it happened once every 60-70 hits and I would do 200-250 in one hit on a critical. If frochin or killik were here they could both verify this. Super criticals like that never happened though. The fights were usually long over beforehand and since they were so rare I can only think of a few times I ever saw one.

Would you be happy if you had a max physical, a weapon made to deal out massive damage but then you only did 10-20 more damage than everyone else? It's bull**** compared to how it used to be. Sorry but it is. Magic was made to be able to compete with this and physical was nerfed to complete sh*t. Like others have said, it's really only good for wc now nothing else.

Im not even so sure it's all physical now that I think about it. The fact that someone capped melee damage ruined everything. Even when I was max physical, I would fight people like Plasma, Maroku, Yannick. All of these people had 70+ physicals at the time and the damage they could deal to me was pretty high. It wasn't as high as mine since I could prep my weapons at a higher level but people like yann and plasma had 18 and 20 slot weapons.

It's not all physical. Its a combination of both with the fact that since damage is capped now, IWD's have pretty much lost all meaning whatsoever since the extra damage can't even be applied because of the cap.
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Old 06-26-2009, 05:42 PM
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I have dunno how u hit 60 on critical dmg, hell i even doubt that is your critical dmg. I am lvl 70 phy and can crit round 80 dmg.

Come online and I'll test it out with you.
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I have dunno how u hit 60 on critical dmg, hell i even doubt that is your critical dmg. I am lvl 70 phy and can crit round 80 dmg.

Come online and I'll test it out with you.
I said I do hit over 60 but only on criticals.
Not how it used to be
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You do more then enough damage imo if you can hit 60 without crit hits.
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You do more then enough damage imo if you can hit 60 without crit hits.
You don't understand. I am annoyed because my physical level no longer means anything. What are you around level 70ish phys? I am 30-40 levels higher than you and you basically deal the same damage as me. It isn't supposed to be like that. When my guy is naked and has no gear on my base damage is 30. That's because it goes up slightly every time you gain a certain amount of levels. If my base damage when I am naked is 30 the I should be dealing a lot more than 50-60 per hit decked out in gear with a fully a prepped weapon. And I used to.

I am sure you were around GK when this was all changed to how it is now but even if you were your physical level wasn't high back then like it is now, so you can't sympathize with my situation. Not many can seeing as only 4 or so people had a 70+ physical back then and can even see where I am coming from.

I am still calling Tig out on the uselessness of IWD's and the purpose they serve now even though any form of response is unlikely.
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You don't understand. I am annoyed because my physical level no longer means anything. What are you around level 70ish phys? I am 30-40 levels higher than you and you basically deal the same damage as me. It isn't supposed to be like that.
Your normal hits are only 20 away from my highest critical hit. I believe u used to do some 100's or w/e but that's way to much. I am glad it is nerfed.
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Old 06-27-2009, 05:44 AM
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Deophite you should be the last one complaining about it
you have 107 phy and i know you did not get it the Normal way

so why complain?
things are fine as it is
it needs to be fair for everyone.
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Deophite you should be the last one complaining about it
you have 107 phy and i know you did not get it the Normal way
You don't know what youre talking about.


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it needs to be fair for everyone.
So whats the point of leveling then? To gain strength and have it all taken away?
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You guys are pretty focused on what your max hits are, I think the biggest problem is that even with 265 damage you can still hit for 5's and 10's
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Then why do RoW users get more dmg when being hit by a Gov weapon than a person using rots.
Weaponmagic does not fall under the 'magic' resist category, or otherwise people with Elronds would be unstoppable. Weaponmagic simply does not have a resist, so when you hit someone with it, they won't have any way to reduce the damage you do to them.

There are lots of various pieces of armor which reduce damage from stuff like cold, fire, electricity, and so on, but none of them have weaponmagic. If you were wearing a bunch of armor which gives you high fire resist, fire weapons would hardly phase you at all. Same goes for all the other attributes. Resists work to reduce damage from both weapons and spells, and more people these days are using pieces of equipment which have those resists.



There are a couple of things you could probably test to figure out what's going on with it. I somehow doubt the damage has been capped.
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:25 PM
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You don't know what youre talking about.
I do know what im talking about. and im not going to say it becouse you also know what im talking about.


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So whats the point of leveling then? To gain strength and have it all taken away?
People need a fighting chance and not to be killed in 3 4 hits
that takes the fun out of pking if you ask me,
But yes ur right the point of leveling is to get stronger.

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Old 06-27-2009, 03:32 PM
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You guys are pretty focused on what your max hits are, I think the biggest problem is that even with 265 damage you can still hit for 5's and 10's
I actually spoke to Tig about it earlier. He agreed there was definitely something wrong. Who knows if he will actually fix it though.
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