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Old 10-19-2007, 08:17 PM
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simple, the applications that're detected shouldn't be used for/on Graal. Thus, they're logged. How're we to know that you were using it for some other game?
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simple, the applications that're detected shouldn't be used for/on Graal. Thus, they're logged. How're we to know that you were using it for some other game?
How are you to know they were being used to attack Graal? This is why I say warn on the second detection. Detecting the program isn't guarantee that they are hacking...more of a, "Staff: watch this peep" or so.

I think the fact that it kills the client and warns against cheating is great I'd just rather it warn the server on the second+ attempt.
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Player pc:109139 (ip 71.130.254.82) is using cheating tools: Cheat Engine 5.3
Player pc:109139 (ip 71.130.254.82) is using cheating tools: Cheat Engine 5.3
(gserver) has locally banned pc:109139
Ban type: Cheating
Ban time: 30 days and 0 hours
Reason: Using cheating tools
(gserver) has locally banned pc:109139
Ban type: Cheating
Ban time: 30 days and 0 hours
Reason: Using cheating tools

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simple, the applications that're detected shouldn't be used for/on Graal. Thus, they're logged. How're we to know that you were using it for some other game?
Did you read my post about false detection?
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:42 PM
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That's not the point? Who'd be retarded enough to create a folder called Art Money if one were to ask
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:48 PM
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It was just an example. It would also happen if you would surf on websites which are about those programs and have their name somewhere in the window title.
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I don't know if it has been fixed yet but occasionally RC posted multiple reports for the one instance.
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:55 PM
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It was just an example. It would also happen if you would surf on websites which are about those programs and have their name somewhere in the window title.
That's not false detection. You're on Graal looking for programs to manipulate Graal.
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Old 10-19-2007, 08:57 PM
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That's not false detection. You're on Graal looking for programs to manipulate Graal.
Wrong. I'm on Graal, and in the meanwhile surfing the web. Maybe just a link I found on a forum which said "check this one" and links to the CE website. How on earth would I know it closes and alerts Graal? You could say "check where the link goes first". Well, what about peeps who just dont know that Graal detects that as harmful?
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Graal should inform people of the hazards.
No way, should it give people an extra chance.
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I didnt say anything about "extra chance", but Graal lacks information. New players dont know about that weird detection system.
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Graal should inform people of the hazards.
No way, should it give people an extra chance.
You could be informed by

"<bad tool> detected. If any cheating programs are detected again, the server will be notified."
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:09 PM
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I suppose that'd help. Maybe it being written in their ban info too
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How are you to know they were being used to attack Graal?
The burden of proof is on your end. The staff are just enforcing the rules. Deal with it.

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It was just an example. It would also happen if you would surf on websites which are about those programs and have their name somewhere in the window title.
Doesn't work like that. The other words (browser titles) would negate the detection.
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You shouldn't be "manipulating" other games.
Nuff said.
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