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Old 08-20-2010, 02:27 AM
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Most of the tiles for this level is pretty much set, just lacking lighting effects and NPCs to add-on for this level.

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Old 08-20-2010, 04:12 AM
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i see they brought back the hedge on wall style from like 2004. ;p...
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:56 AM
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I'm not a fan of the use of those same two "trees" over and over.
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I'm not a fan of the use of those same two "trees" over and over.
I have to agree. Something artistically doesn't appease me by looking at that.
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Old 08-20-2010, 03:37 PM
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:09 PM
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:16 PM
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Looks good except for the part where it makes no sense, you'll probably want to widen that narrow doorway where you have the treehouse stairs so players can navigate through it properly.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:16 AM
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Make walls that make sense.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:23 AM
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Personally I'd like to see different images in here as well, You could do better since what you can add is only limited by your imagination, Also I hope structure of the room (walls n things) are revised a bit. Otherwise looks alright.
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:10 PM
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It looks illogical, really. I mean you can say "It's a game" or "It's graal style" but in my opinion, the whole terrain looks pretty stupid. For reference, you could look at the levels on Link to the Past. They're simple but effective and don't have grass on one floor and snow on the other.

The Graal engine allows you to do stuff that wasn't usually possible on old game systems but it doesn't mean you should really try and make things that look crazy. I think level design is a lot more than just making stuff that looks pretty; it needs to have function and purpose and it needs to represent a real world in the best way you can with what you've got. I don't mean super realistic but more often than not it goes a long way to add a bit of logic in the mix.

I'll PM you across a link to a site that has full game map images from old SNES RPGs, which should give you a lot of references to work from.
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When you started with "It looks illogical" I was prepared to read a rant about the positioning of the walls.

But to bring up an argument about grass on one level and snow on the other? I think it looks neat, tbh. Of course its not logical, you wouldnt see grass and snow inside.

Oh, and "It's a game". Because, it is. If you want to make levels that are illogical, but look pretty, your free to do so.
Every Graal server is like this in some way. You can't really go for realism in Graal. You can try, but only to a certain extent.

I think the levels looks good tho. Like other people said, seeing those 'tree' images over and over doesn't look all that great, but other than that, it looks nice.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:16 AM
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Oh, and "It's a game". Because, it is. If you want to make levels that are illogical, but look pretty, your free to do so.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:22 AM
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Great improvement from the blank to the complete, but the outline does look a little odd and you should try to fix the perspective. Obviously the snow area is higher than the grass (there's stairs going up right?) so the wall shouldn't be the same height as the bottom level unless you make the outline walls the same height. *nit pick blah*

Looks like a generic, random, no real purpose, Classic Graal Level to me.

Does anyone else notice the snowman image that doesn't at all match the ground snow or look like his character? Random.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:29 AM
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Does anyone else notice the snowman image that doesn't at all match the ground snow or look like his character? Random.
Actually it fits just fine, there are a lot worse ways to go at it. If it completely had to match he could have just made a transparent outline and slapt it in and made it block. That would look horrible.
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Old 08-22-2010, 12:39 AM
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Actually it fits just fine
On my new monitor the snowman looks completely white with blue shading, while the snow looks bone white (a shade darker) with cyan/turquoise blotching. Might just be me though, I wanted to point it out cause I saw it like "wtfisthat?".

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