Graal Forums  

Go Back   Graal Forums > PlayerWorlds > Bomy Island Main Forum
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-17-2016, 10:23 PM
Kamaeru Kamaeru is offline
Sandinista!
Kamaeru's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,040
Kamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud of
A Haiku

graal2001

come back into my life please

graal2001
__________________
3DS friendcode: 1118-0226-7975
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-07-2016, 06:08 PM
Sparkplug Sparkplug is offline
old school.
Sparkplug's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 772
Sparkplug will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to Sparkplug
^

Lets give someone RC access so we can actually take a look at what has to be done / can be done.

The powers that be... is it so hard to do that?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-08-2016, 11:18 AM
kia345 kia345 is offline
z0rbi 4 life 🤘
kia345's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: delteria
Posts: 6,737
kia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond reputekia345 has a reputation beyond repute
it's snowing on mount fuji
__________________
pojo
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-08-2016, 11:35 AM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparkplug View Post
The powers that be... is it so hard to do that?
yes
__________________
Skyld
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-08-2016, 12:08 PM
Crono Crono is offline
:pluffy:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 19,993
Crono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Crono
Quote:
Originally Posted by kia345 View Post
it's snowing on mount fuji
dae game gremps xDD
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2016, 10:31 PM
Kamaeru Kamaeru is offline
Sandinista!
Kamaeru's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,040
Kamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud of
Basically what Skyld said. The powers that be are trying to keep G2K1 on the stealth hush for some reason. And I do not suspect that the reason is positive. My own theory is that they tried to make it an iPhone server and screwed everything up royally, then they just left it that way. I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would). I'm not opposed to just buying a server and uploading Graal2001 to it.
__________________
3DS friendcode: 1118-0226-7975
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-10-2016, 08:14 AM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamaeru View Post
Basically what Skyld said. The powers that be are trying to keep G2K1 on the stealth hush for some reason. And I do not suspect that the reason is positive. My own theory is that they tried to make it an iPhone server and screwed everything up royally, then they just left it that way.
There was talk in the past of turning Graal2001 into an iPhone server, but I do not know if this ever was even started properly. Quite a bit of conversion to GScript2 took place otherwise but it was certainly never finished.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamaeru
I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would). I'm not opposed to just buying a server and uploading Graal2001 to it.
This is probably the better way to get some kind of momentum, but I can't help but feel that this too would be a wasted effort. Graal on PC does not have the playerbase anymore to make such efforts really worthwhile, and the subscription model doesn't lend itself to new players wanting to download the game either.

Perhaps you could get some kind of agreement from unixmad to complete the transformation into a mobile game, but then micropayments would destroy the very delicate balance that Graal2001 once had. With Classic this was not so much of an issue because there wasn't really an economy in the first place, but on Graal2001 every single gralat counted for some real hours played and there was an amount of progression needed to really get anywhere. If you could just "buy your way in" then it would undo that and take the fun away.

Then there's the question of just how much of a future Graal has anyway. The Windows, Linux and Mac clients seemingly have not had any updates in nearly two years. Other playerworlds have simply fallen by the wayside or been taken offline altogether. There is still no improvement on the developer tools from several years ago.

I think this might be it.

Torque2D open source fork on Github, anyone?
__________________
Skyld
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-10-2016, 02:07 PM
Crono Crono is offline
:pluffy:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 19,993
Crono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Crono
you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-10-2016, 02:26 PM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono View Post
you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness
oh ok
__________________
Skyld
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-10-2016, 02:27 PM
Crono Crono is offline
:pluffy:
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Sweden
Posts: 19,993
Crono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond reputeCrono has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Crono
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyld View Post
oh ok
!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-10-2016, 02:45 PM
Skyld Skyld is offline
Script-fu
Skyld's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,914
Skyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud ofSkyld has much to be proud of
Send a message via AIM to Skyld
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono View Post
!
__________________
Skyld
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-10-2016, 07:45 PM
Kamaeru Kamaeru is offline
Sandinista!
Kamaeru's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,040
Kamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud ofKamaeru has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono View Post
you dont need dev tools, g2k1 is perfect remember? just upload it and it will bring in the 1000+ players from its own greatness
I mean this hyperbole is way over-exaggerated, but I do think Graal2001 would bring in a surprising number of players initially. Maybe 50-100 for the first few months.
__________________
3DS friendcode: 1118-0226-7975
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-11-2016, 12:46 AM
jacob_bald6225 jacob_bald6225 is offline
Doctor Who?
jacob_bald6225's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 851
jacob_bald6225 is a splendid one to beholdjacob_bald6225 is a splendid one to beholdjacob_bald6225 is a splendid one to beholdjacob_bald6225 is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamaeru View Post
I mean this hyperbole is way over-exaggerated, but I do think Graal2001 would bring in a surprising number of players initially. Maybe 50-100 for the first few months.

If the player count
were sixty five or higher
I would play for sure

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-15-2016, 12:30 PM
Lance Lance is offline
dark overlord
Lance's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Space Jam Mountain
Posts: 5,072
Lance is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamaeru View Post
I'm hoping someone has decent backups (Lance would)
yeah
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-15-2016, 12:40 PM
Lance Lance is offline
dark overlord
Lance's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Space Jam Mountain
Posts: 5,072
Lance is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyld View Post
Then there's the question of just how much of a future Graal has anyway. The Windows, Linux and Mac clients seemingly have not had any updates in nearly two years. Other playerworlds have simply fallen by the wayside or been taken offline altogether. There is still no improvement on the developer tools from several years ago.

I think this might be it.

Torque2D open source fork on Github, anyone?
that's sad to hear
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright (C) 1998-2008 Linux cyberjoueurs All Rights Reserved.