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Old 12-09-2011, 10:44 AM
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i have windows xp and my grall client WONT EVEN OPEN!
is the a temp problem, if so i hope it fixed soon, and if i cant use v6 cuz it not capable to run in my platform
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:12 AM
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V6 Should be more than capable to run on windows xp.
What are your PC specs?
If V5 won't open try re-installing, if that won't work then try right clicking graalv5.exe and click properties, under compatibility try running it in compatibility mode for each option.
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:23 PM
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i have windows xp and my grall client WONT EVEN OPEN!
is the a temp problem, if so i hope it fixed soon, and if i cant use v6 cuz it not capable to run in my platform
How your computer is handling files is not our problem, tbh.
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Old 12-10-2011, 05:22 PM
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Just don't use v6..?
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:05 PM
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I still use v5 on the rare occasion that I log on. v6 absolutely kills all three of my computers (2 running Vista, 1 running Win7).
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:13 PM
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Kills your computers? In what ways?
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Old 12-11-2011, 12:40 AM
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Kills your computers? In what ways?
"Kills" was a bit harsh. My frame-rate while using v6 seems like watching a film in slow motion, however -- it takes 30-60 seconds to walk through one level the majority of the time, no matter what I do. I have had no problems with other games, or the v5 client for that matter.

I don't care a whole lot on a personal level because I prefer developing Graal to playing Graal, and incidentally I don't have much time for either as it is and have probably signed on a handful of times all year. But this v6 issue I seem to be having doesn't exactly "encourage" me to "hop on and have fun."
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:03 AM
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Generate dxdiag logs and post them so we can at least get a summary of your specs, and attempt to identify the source of the problem.

1. Start -> Search: dxdiag
2. Click "Save All Information"

Do you get the same issue using OpenGL? There's a checkbox in F3 to toggle between DirectX and OpenGL now.

Also you could generate HiJackThis logs as well.

Link: http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/produc...HijackThis.exe
1. Download
2. Run -> Do a System Scan and Save Log file

Video card drivers up-to-date?

Do you have Aero enabled? Try disabling it and see if you encounter the same issue.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

Graal does a lot of File I/O. An anti-virus's active shield could be hooking the loading processes and running every time Graal attempts to load a file. Try disabling your anti-virus. If it helps try adding the Graal.exe and/or directory to the 'Excluded' items option in your anti-virus.

While Graal is running check the processes tab in task manager (ctrl+alt+del), sort by CPU and see what percentage is being consumed and by what.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:42 PM
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Generate dxdiag logs and post them so we can at least get a summary of your specs, and attempt to identify the source of the problem.

1. Start -> Search: dxdiag
2. Click "Save All Information"

Do you get the same issue using OpenGL? There's a checkbox in F3 to toggle between DirectX and OpenGL now.

Also you could generate HiJackThis logs as well.

Link: http://www.trendmicro.com/ftp/produc...HijackThis.exe
1. Download
2. Run -> Do a System Scan and Save Log file

Video card drivers up-to-date?

Do you have Aero enabled? Try disabling it and see if you encounter the same issue.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...windows-vista/

Graal does a lot of File I/O. An anti-virus's active shield could be hooking the loading processes and running every time Graal attempts to load a file. Try disabling your anti-virus. If it helps try adding the Graal.exe and/or directory to the 'Excluded' items option in your anti-virus.

While Graal is running check the processes tab in task manager (ctrl+alt+del), sort by CPU and see what percentage is being consumed and by what.
I have lag issues as well. DxDiag attached. OpenGL seems the same. HiJack this attached. Video card drivers are up-to-date. Aero doesn't change much. Graal uses 20~40% of CPU.
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:15 PM
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I have lag issues as well. DxDiag attached. OpenGL seems the same. HiJack this attached. Video card drivers are up-to-date. Aero doesn't change much. Graal uses 20~40% of CPU.
I'm pretty sure I told you this before but according your HiJackThis:

You have both Malwarebytes and Bitdefender enabled. Try disabling them or adding your Graal directory to the list of exceptions. Uninstall them completely and see if that helps, if it doesn't reinstall them.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:55 PM
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A 10 seconds /clientstats would help me also.
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A 10 seconds /clientstats would help me also.
As someone who has been trying to help others and solve these performance problems.

You really need to make a better way for players to generate client-stats logs.

Requiring someone with RC to do it is a huge pain in the ass because of the extra coordination and participation required on the third-party.

Just exclude in-depth function profiling from self-generated client-stats.
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Old 12-13-2011, 11:06 AM
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Alright, I've added them to the ignore list/exclusion list.
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:23 PM
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Is it running faster now?
I've seen that sometimes the PC comes with one anti-virus package and the ISP installs another one. It's hard to see why the computer is slow until you go into the task manager and watch the services fight each other. These services are not shown in the program list so it will not even show anything strange in the list.
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