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Old 04-17-2003, 10:19 AM
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Player World hosting

Player World Hosting system is coming soon.

My actual plan is to give all tools to manage a playerworld including:

- Disque Space between 100MB to 500MB
- Web hosting (Frontpage, file manager ... )
- Email system
- Graal server + Npcserver
- Remote control + tools to start/stop/monitor the playerworld
- CPANEL control panel to manage everything
- Billing system

The basic plan will include 100MB hard drive + Graal server but no NPCserver

The most complete plan will include 500MB + Npcserver running on a BI-Xeon computer.

Playerworld managers will choose to let the server open (still need a classic lifetime account to play), private, or subscription based.

Subscription based mean you have to spend coins to play, each gold or vip account will receive some coins to start with, this coins will give discount to player world manager to pay monthly fees.

Also each month best player world will receive a bonus of coins.

I will be interested to known who plan to open a player world and what can be the good price, payment will be done with paypal so you can group to take a player world.

I will not accept any SPAM in this thread, each message not interesting will be deleted.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 04-17-2003, 10:46 AM
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Re: Player World hosting

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Player World Hosting system is coming soon.
Hooray!

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My actual plan is to give all tools to manage a playerworld including:

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This sounds pretty nice. Will these be included with the Adminpanel, or will a new tool be made?

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The basic plan will include 100MB hard drive + Graal server but no NPCserver

The most complete plan will include 500MB + Npcserver running on a BI-Xeon computer.
Will all those features be modular? Like, can someone who wishes to "purchase" a playerworld get a checklist where he/she can choose what exactly is needed, or will there only be several plans to choose from?
Will it be easy for an existing playerworld to change the plan?

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Playerworld managers will choose to let the server open (still need a classic lifetime account to play), private, or subscription based.
Just let me make sure that I understand this the right way.
Open = all classic lifetimes accounts can play, and the PW manager has to pay a lot
Private = like open, but only accessible for people selected by the PW manager
Subscription based = Only people who have coins from buying a gold/vip upgrade can play, and these will lessen the costs for the PW manager.
Is it like this?

I see a problem with this, as someone could spend all his coins on several playerworlds, and as they still have gold time left on their account, they do not want to reupgrade already as they can still play on the gold servers.
I would suggest to make "PW coins" a seperate subscription, if I understood this right.

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I will be interested to known who plan to open a player world and what can be the good price, payment will be done with paypal so you can group to take a player world.
Hm, this grouping seems to be a good idea. Not only could a playerworld's staff share the cost easily, but also multiple playerworlds could be motivated to merge and combine their efforts.
Can you tell us a rough estimate, how much you expect as a price?
I do not want to give a suggestion and later on be flamed for suggesting far too less or too much :|
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Old 04-17-2003, 11:02 AM
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In short... yes, i would be interested, but a lot would have to do with the cost... If it's too much, then we might just wait another month or two, and try to get up with the PWA... but if it's a desent price, then I think it is very possible


*edit* also, could there be an option without the e-mail, and webhosting? So it could be cheaper? because we already have hosting, e-mail addresses, and stuff
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Old 04-17-2003, 11:31 AM
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I too would be intrested, at lease highly considering. Yet very much like ETD.. depending on price.
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Old 04-17-2003, 11:36 AM
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Maybe a suggestion: Let the playerworld owners pay for a domain with credits, if say, the person cannot get ahold of a credit card or is underage.
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Old 04-17-2003, 12:21 PM
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I like the payment idea! Thats pretty nice!

Hmm Unix I dont think you should step over $10 a month for now!

23 PWs:
Thats a possible $230 a month.

Well Unix you really need to think what it is you want to cover with payment costs, and if you still want to pay some yourself.

And shouldnt the NPC Server be included anyway? As ever PW has one, so if they cant afford it and you have to take it away! x_X

Maybe NPC Server in basic package, but get some knocked off if you dont want one.
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Old 04-17-2003, 12:27 PM
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I am interested in opening up a playerworld (100MB Option), But my opinion on what the price should be is around the cost of dial up access in U.S. currency which is standardly $19.95.
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Old 04-17-2003, 01:16 PM
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here's what i'd like...
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- Graal server + Npcserver
- Remote control + tools to start/stop/monitor the playerworld
- CPANEL control panel to manage everything
- Billing system

for $20 a month
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I think the webspace, and e-mail, and stuff should be an additional package that you could buy for like $10 a month extra (which is really cheap compared to other places)

since my PW already has a website, and host, and e-mails... I don't need that, so i don't think I should have to pay for something we already have
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Old 04-17-2003, 02:43 PM
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here's what i'd like...
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- Graal server + Npcserver
- Remote control + tools to start/stop/monitor the playerworld
- CPANEL control panel to manage everything
- Billing system

for $20 a month
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I think the webspace, and e-mail, and stuff should be an additional package that you could buy for like $10 a month extra (which is really cheap compared to other places)

since my PW already has a website, and host, and e-mails... I don't need that, so i don't think I should have to pay for something we already have
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Why make it an additional package? you'd just pay more. Take it as one package for the same price!
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Old 04-17-2003, 03:30 PM
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I must say, I am not pleased, if this is how it works for every playerworld.

Will there still be a system for "exceptional" PWs to get online and private for free?

As in, PWs like Oasis will not be charged? Or what? Because those kinds of PWs will probably be more of a benefit to Graal, rather then entertainment for the maker...not to mention I doubt with the ammount of time people take on QUALITY Pws, they will pay for it.

Personally, and I don't care if people don't see my world as quality or not, I would not buy a subscription to this as I have no money to spend on this. I hope there will be some exceptions for exceptional worlds x-x.

But, enough of what I think on terms of it being implemented...here is what I believe the prices should be, to keep low quality worlds away.

Simple Package - 30$/month
Large Package - 60$/month

Dunno, if I was talking what people would WANT to pay, I would say...

Simple Package - 15$/month
Large Package - 35$/month
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Old 04-17-2003, 04:06 PM
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I'm thinking about getting one but it just depends on if I feel the price range is reasonable or not. For me if one of the packages are within the $10-$20 (us currency) I will more than likely be purchasing one.

Also is there an estimated time of release for this? Like about a month, weeks, a few months, no idea. Not asking for a definate date but just maybe a date that if everything goes well you would like to have it ready by.
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:26 PM
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What about the current online playerworlds? They have to pay either?
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:50 PM
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I do not think it is going to be that expensive. Until now, Graal seemed to survive with "free" playerworld hosting. The additional features should not require a lot of resources, and therefore I think that a PW with all features will cost $10/month maximally.
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Old 04-17-2003, 05:54 PM
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Well, It depends on the price. I live in Canada so the price will be higher. If it's more then 30 (CAN) I most likely wont buy it, otherwise I'm all for.
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Old 04-17-2003, 06:01 PM
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The price in Canada will be exactly the same as everywhere else, most likely. Not counting taxes for exporting money or stuff.
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