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Old 04-18-2011, 08:30 AM
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For a new 3D server?

Blender - Free Open Source 3D Modeling and Animation program.
It has it's own game system as well if you'd like to make a game.

Since I am not hiring yet, and hardly finished creating any graphics for the server, I'm just going to post pictures on here.

The server will have 8 directions, and 3D graphics. A lot of what I am posting on here will need to be improved, some of it could just be a waste.

I will post the picture, and what they are/will be for. :]
Feel free to critique, this does not mean saying it sucks, or is good.
Give details why it sucks or is good, what could be fixed/changed, and how it could improve or why exactly you may like it.

First, if anyone does do and 3D type renderings as a picture, it seems best to have a background that is a like color, darker or lighter.. "You will be erasing it". I found making it transparent in the program doesn't look as good. Also, I usually multiply the picture by 10, because I think it looks better sizing it down rather then rendering the smaller image.


360x360px Bush

I chose the background to be ?olive green...

Same bush I'd use on Graal downsized.
32x32 - functions as a regular bush, I'd give it a chance to break.. basically in 2-4 whacks, once it is damaged it would be pickup-able. The bush would be a gani/image so it wouldn't matter that it is transparent and round.


32x32 slate rock for pathways, this would be on my tilesheet. Walkable...


32x32 slate rock for pathways, again on the tilesheet but I'd need grass under it.


I cropped the size from 320x320, this is just a huge rock that would be an image using setimg2.

I took a large grassy plain in hopes to take a 16x16 tile and have it as a module. I'm no M.C. Escher but I think eventually I will get it right.. lol


I know it's hard to compare all this without seeing people or buildings.. I don't even have much of the landscaping parts. >.>

-EDIT- 04/18/11 - Since I cannot double post I'll be sticking all my pictures here.

I think I will have to either make this in a 16x32 or 16x48 columns and the fence part 16x16 or 32x16 and link them like that on the tileset, or possibly make the bottoms of the fence 16x16, or 32x32 and have it use setimg2 so people can walk behind them.. but then I'd have to figure out how to have them linked.. I'm sure I will figure it out. That is it for today.
For now I think it looks semi-dull and needs to be lit up via lighting.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:23 AM
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As a concept, it could work.
But I don't think you're the right person to do it, sorry.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:31 AM
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As a concept, it could work.
But I don't think you're the right person to do it, sorry.
Wasn't much of a critique, but I appreciate the opinion.

Working on a fence right now... kinda hard not knowing how the people will look.. I could turn off shade, which would give it the other guys effect.. But honestly I like them having a skin with shade.. I could make it lighter though..
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:51 AM
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Your "tiles" don't work out in small in terms of composition and space arrangement
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:12 PM
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Your "tiles" don't work out in small in terms of composition and space arrangement
Not yet ^.^; I really need to find a specific camera angle I like too.. for things like houses and the fence.. I think the grass I might have to do pixel art for I can't see that coming out readily as a module.

However doing it all 3D, and my own ganis and systems should make it easier than me having to do what I call "graalifying" things..

Ugh.. I wish someone would tell me how to make the images smaller in the image tags :'[
Anyway, eventually it will all come together nicely..
>.> The bush needs roots though.. I'll probably just make bushes 48x48... The players will be slightly bigger anyway..
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:03 PM
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too bad graal cant support 3d no more
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:24 PM
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btw you can also choose orthographic view so you don't have to distort your objects.
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Old 04-18-2011, 04:43 PM
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too bad graal cant support 3d no more
yes it can, I have recently scripted a 3D obj on my server ( .3ds file) and it works fine.

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I think a server with a low-poly/pixel art looking approach would be better. Pretty much like the Pokemon games for DS
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:42 PM
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Yea or that other full 3d lowpoly FF game



Would be so awesome with a server like that in like third person view, thats what I wanted to do but when I asked Stefan he was all like "noooo0o0 facebook!"
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btw you can also choose orthographic view so you don't have to distort your objects.
I never use User view, only Ortho... user confuses the crap out.. having a square look odd.. either way it all comes out to the rendering picture which unless I could adjust it, takes depth into consideration and Graal does not.. D:

So you kinda just have to play with it until it looks like it fits Graal lol..

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yes it can, I have recently scripted a 3D obj on my server ( .3ds file) and it works fine.

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I appreciate the gesture, and I'd love the help, but honestly I don't think so much like a programmer as I do an artist.. I wouldn't know what I could do or how I could do it differently from what I've seen on Graal.. I created my movement system via N, W, S, E, and NW, SW, SE, NE.. basically two ganis, two different things..

The view would remain the same, but I did wonder if you could rotate focus.. other then that.. I don't even know what a .3ds file is.. or things I could do with them.. Unless you are willing to teach me.. I'm lost without cause on the subject matter lol..

I've only created pictures and videos from the program I have used. Never attempted to create a game with it but it is possible. Perhaps we could talk more about it?

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Final Fantasy? If so I haven't followed any of the games. :x

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I think a server with a low-poly/pixel art looking approach would be better. Pretty much like the Pokemon games for DS
I wouldn't know how to make my stuff low poly really.. maybe take off shadowing and put on toon edges so there is a black outline.. but I don't think that would look that great. D: Not too fond of doing pixel art either.. I can but it takes long and is less interesting to me.. I do love seeing sketches and interesting things like Europa has though, however I will not be doing it. I'm sure the buildings will looks cartoony and unique however.. hopefully colorful too; sadly I only have one design in mind for now that I just came up with... and will probably forget after this message...

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Yea or that other full 3d lowpoly FF game

Would be so awesome with a server like that in like third person view, thats what I wanted to do but when I asked Stefan he was all like "noooo0o0 facebook!"
Again, unsure if FF is meant for Final Fantasy, if so I have not followed any of the games. I do like the picture and could probably replicate the people, but as for the view.. I'm not even sure Graals' view can be changed.. still unsure what it is, it seems like 65 degrees off the ground kind of looking into a box..

Anyway, I'm sure it would be awesome. :]
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:54 AM
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You can't build 3D worlds with the Graal Engine, though, right? Like Graal3D? You can't do that? Right?
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You can't build 3D worlds with the Graal Engine, though, right? Like Graal3D? You can't do that? Right?
No but perhaps sometime in the future, shame through after all the work with Graal 3D to just toss it away (the tools that is)
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No but perhaps sometime in the future, shame through after all the work with Graal 3D to just toss it away (the tools that is)
They can't release the Graal 3D engine to developers to develop?
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