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Old 03-20-2010, 03:47 AM
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This is true Stephen. Not to just as capable, I actually do develop, you know that. Its hard to make a server all by yourself though. Its rough enough finding developers nowadays.
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:55 AM
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This is true Stephen. Not to just as capable, I actually do develop, you know that. Its hard to make a server all by yourself though. Its rough enough finding developers nowadays.
The development community is diluted.
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I really do wish we still had a support center. It is very difficult to keep our support responses organized and such when we're all replying to separate emails, etc.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:25 AM
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I really do wish we still had a support center. It is very difficult to keep our support responses organized and such when we're all replying to separate emails, etc.
Google Wave would be perfect for this, if only it were public.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:50 AM
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That's like buying a smaller pool every time some water evaporates, instead of just refilling the pool.

Limiting projects isn't going to solve the problem. And with such a small pool of projects (5) and no possibility to start their own new project, there is a very real possibility that developers might just be put off.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:59 AM
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I really do wish we still had a support center. It is very difficult to keep our support responses organized and such when we're all replying to separate emails, etc.
Why not just set up an email address for example such as gmail and then just create different folders for each division. Then when emails pop up in the inbox, if you open one and see it's for say account issues, put it in w/e folder and mark it as unread. Then whoever's job it is can read it. When responding to emails you'd just have to put a signature so people know who is responding. Much more difficult than a support center, but better than nothing at all.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:19 PM
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Same thing with Era.

The only thing you need is a gun, but you don't even need a good gun. If a players good he can beat anyone not matter what gun they are using. I wouldn't consider myself a bad sparrer, but someone like Wil can beat me with handguns.
after 3 weeks of poking trash with a stick, and 4 days of digging shells.. VOILA you now have enough to buy the cheapest gun.
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after 3 weeks of poking trash with a stick, and 4 days of digging shells.. VOILA you now have enough to buy the cheapest gun.
If it takes you 3 weeks and 4 days to get $200, ur doin it rong!
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:09 PM
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If it takes you 3 weeks and 4 days to get $200, ur doin it rong!
Yeah, lol.

I used like one whole shovel too get like 150-250 $ in 10 minutes (shovel did break).
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:40 PM
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Yeah, lol.

I used like one whole shovel too get like 150-250 $ in 10 minutes (shovel did break).
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I don't even know how to apply for hosted =/
There is a whole list with rules to get Hosted / Classic in the Playerworlds Main Forum, All you have to do is make sure you follow these rules, make sure you have everything done and send a Forum PM to one of the PWAís.
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after 3 weeks of poking trash with a stick, and 4 days of digging shells.. VOILA you now have enough to buy the cheapest gun.
Like TSA & Dnegel said, If you take a month getting like $200 you are doing something weird, Since it takes like 5 to 10 Minutes shoveling to get $500 I think.

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Why i think that Graal is going dead..

The new trial system, This really sucks and this needs to be changed back to the old system. The time i started playing we had this old system, When you logged off you lost everything. This made me play Graal much as possible, i kept walking to my PC while dinner to move my character a little bit so i wouldn't log off. I kept trying to get better and better, Finally i got mad of it and it made me buy gold.
If i started again right now, I wouldn't even consider paying for Graal. Why should i? I can just play as a trial, Why do i have to buy gold? For those few extra things? I wouldn't do it for that.
Another problem which this new system gives, When you lose your gold you just get to keep all your items and when you buy gold you still have them. So you donít even have to keep playing. When you lose your items when your gold runs out, you have to keep playing and paying. And since you donít want to lose your items you will keep paying.

That was the Trial system, Now letís get to the Playerworlds.

The player-owned playerworlds also donít make it better. There are very much good developers on Graal, The problem is.. The good/pro developers donít want to work on those small playerworlds, This way the playerworlds have to do it with bad/normal developers which makes if very hard to create a awesome new world. At the same time, I have been looking around to get some pro graphic artists on Noctorious. This was really hard, since the most are busy on the Classic/Gold servers or I had answers as ĎSorry I donít have time, I have to work for Stefaní.
If we had less playerowned server, But if we would have good developers there too we would have more new good servers.

But the playerowned servers are not the only problem, Have Zone as example. I personally think Zone is a very awesome server, When I started playing graal I only played Zone. And I kept playing Zone, Why? Because you always had fun there, there were players, events and lots of fun things. There was always something to do. But then Zone made some mistakes and the server went down, Lost a lot of players and now itís pretty much Ďdeadí.

While Zone has a lot of awesome developers working on their debug server, There arenít any updates and no players. This server is actually taking away awesome developers for nothing right now. I donít have anything against Zone, And I really love the server. I would love to see it back online having this awesome playercount. But it needs to make changes, which they wonít make. I canít say that this is because of the Manager (Stephen) or the staffís since I also heard that they always have to wait for Stefan to upload it to the main server. But if that is the problem, Give the Manager the rights to change those things Stefan.


Ofcourse I can keep going on like this, But I donít want to..
The problem was created by Stefan, Unixmad but also by us. Donít blame him for everything while the players also did things they shouldnít have done.

I just think that we have to change some changes that Graal has made..
- Bring the old trial system back
- Remove this stupid Graal### system

And for Zone personally..
- Remove the Hotkey system
- Remove the Gelat Shop, Bring the good old zone money shop back.
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:43 PM
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Google Wave would be perfect for this, if only it were public.
I have some invitations if anyone wants them, it's strange though... I wouldn't recommend it for a support center
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:43 AM
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Couldn't they make their own in-client support centre system? I'm sure it wouldn't be THAT hard and at least they can control the security side of things. The previous version was fully of things that weren't used like news, downloads and FAQs (the latter used in the sense content was published but I'm not sure noobies went there for the answers to the questions). So literally a way to submit a message, within a category and have the relevant staff member view, respond and close a problem accordingly.
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Couldn't they make their own in-client support centre system? I'm sure it wouldn't be THAT hard and at least they can control the security side of things. The previous version was fully of things that weren't used like news, downloads and FAQs (the latter used in the sense content was published but I'm not sure noobies went there for the answers to the questions). So literally a way to submit a message, within a category and have the relevant staff member view, respond and close a problem accordingly.
I've offered Era's, which is in-game and does all of that and more (permissions for each staff member, "hidden categories" to forward to other staff, works with community names flawlessly, etc), but apparently they're not interested in an in-game support center.
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:02 AM
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I've offered Era's, which is in-game and does all of that and more (permissions for each staff member, "hidden categories" to forward to other staff, works with community names flawlessly, etc), but apparently they're not interested in an in-game support center.
Only Stefan could implement something like that across all of Graal Online. Stefan is currently developing the client, specifically for iPhone. Hold your breath on this one and tell me how it works out for you.
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